3d printed delid tool worth the risk???

steverebo

steverebo

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I'm thinking of delidding my 7700k but don't want to spend £50 on a delid tool I will probably only use once. I've found some on eBay for £9.99 but are they any good and worth risking?
 
If that has not been sanded then it looks like very high quality printing to me. I've seen poor quality cheap 3D print and it looks nothing like that.

Edit. Also, a 3D print on a cheap nasty printer will take all night. He's selling loads, so he can obviously print them quickly.
 
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The 7700k has no components under the IHS, så just use the razor method.
But instead of a razor, use a hobby knife. It's easier to control with a good handle.
I will give my 4790k a go this weekend.

I had a i5 2400 (its soldered) i used it to practices, it takes a good lot of patience.
But it was a lot easier than the razor videos.Where they have problems controlling the razor (i din't get the IHS off as it's soldered, but i got the glue the hole way around.)
 
Yeah I'm not too keen on the knife method, one slip and you stuffed whereas a delid tool looks a lot safer.

If it's good quality I might give it a go thanks now do I remove all the original glue after delid or leave it?
 
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steverebo said:
Yeah I'm not too keen on the knife method, one slip and you stuffed whereas a delid tool looks a lot safer.

If it's good quality I might give it a go thanks
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You will soon find out when you fit the two parts together tbh. Tolerances should be very tight.
 
steverebo said:
Yeah I'm not too keen on the knife method, one slip and you stuffed whereas a delid tool looks a lot safer.

If it's good quality I might give it a go thanks now do I remove all the original glue after delid or leave it?
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Just don't think the tools is fool proof.
The whole idea of delidding is to remove the glue. Removing the glue will place the IHS closer to the DIE = Better temps. The new Intel paste is actually not that bad, it's just misunderstanding from the older TIM. The glue is a certain thickness due to the manufacturing process.
 
Korreborg said:
Just don't think the tools is fool proof.
The whole idea of delidding is to remove the glue. Removing the glue will place the IHS closer to the DIE = Better temps. The new Intel paste is actually not that bad, it's just misunderstanding from the older TIM. The glue is a certain thickness due to the manufacturing process.
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You still remove the glue after using the tool. You just rub it off with alcohol/your finger instead of dangerously removing it with a knife. It's far safer.
 
AlienALX said:
I wouldn't glue it back down at all. And don't use that liquid metal stuff either, it damages the cooler and the core.
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No it does not. It's just a pain to clean. They discussed it the other day in another thread. Can't remember who i was, but he disassembled his card, and spendt more time cleaning like ALOT more time, and is was fine.

If you want glue, then place the IHS on the PCB, and place a small drop in each corner. Not under the IHS, but on the side.
 
AlienALX said:
I wouldn't glue it back down at all. And don't use that liquid metal stuff either, it damages the cooler and the core.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIikmLf_H48
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thats a pretty bold and false statement. I have used it for years. Little elbow grease and its good as new. He even says in the video that it is fine after cleaning.

regarding the delidding tool. I picked it up. And cheekily i have charged some colleagues 50kr to delid their cpu. I'm not making a profit yet but im certainly clawing back the expense. I would rather use one now that a razor considering the cost of these processors are rising.

As for hobby knife vs razor blade.

I would take a razor blade simple because you can keep a smooth horizontal motion and cover a larger surface area. Hobby knives as great as they are will cut a pcb with zero effort if you place force in an undesired direction. Personal preference in the end but having removed a few, I found the old razor blade to be the most beneficial "cheap" method.

As for that delid tool. It looks strong and decent quality, but considering my delidding tool from der8auer needed and allen key to exert quite a large amount of force until you hear a "crack" from the IHS separation. I don't know how you can get the same force with this tool unless you clamp it in a vice and compress the parts together?
 
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Warchild said:
thats a pretty bold and false statement. I have used it for years. Little elbow grease and its good as new. He even says in the video that it is fine after cleaning.

regarding the delidding tool. I picked it up. And cheekily i have charged some colleagues 50kr to delid their cpu. I'm not making a profit yet but im certainly clawing back the expense. I would rather use one now that a razor considering the cost of these processors are rising.

As for hobby knife vs razor blade.

I would take a razor blade simple because you can keep a smooth horizontal motion and cover a larger surface area. Hobby knives as great as they are will cut a pcb with zero effort if you place force in an undesired direction. Personal preference in the end but having removed a few, I found the old razor blade to be the most beneficial "cheap" method.

As for that delid tool. It looks strong and decent quality, but considering my delidding tool from der8auer needed and allen key to exert quite a large amount of force until you hear a "crack" from the IHS separation. I don't know how you can get the same force with this tool unless you clamp it in a vice and compress the parts together?
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I bought it and I'm way ahead of you there as I already have a vice, it's plastic as it's part of my black and Decker work bench but it should suffice.

I'm not keen on leaving the IHS just loose on the chip. Could I glue it back down with thinner glue? If so what's the best stuff to use
 
If you want glue, then place the IHS on the PCB, and place a small drop in each corner. Not under the IHS, but on the side.
 
Steve: you really don't need to re-glue it. Once you clamp a cooler onto that IHS, it won't move. You can glue it if you like, but it's really not necessary.
 
steverebo said:
I bought it and I'm way ahead of you there as I already have a vice, it's plastic as it's part of my black and Decker work bench but it should suffice.

I'm not keen on leaving the IHS just loose on the chip. Could I glue it back down with thinner glue? If so what's the best stuff to use
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Please do not use the vice method. The IHS on Skylake and Kaby Lake are thinner than previous generation Intel parts, so it is much more prone to damage.

This is one of the main reasons why dedicated delidding tools have become so popular.
 
Warchild said:
thats a pretty bold and false statement. I have used it for years. Little elbow grease and its good as new. He even says in the video that it is fine after cleaning.
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Did you watch it and listen to what he said about the silicon? he said it felt rough.

Up to you man, but I wouldn't use that crap again.
 
WYP said:
Please do not use the vice method. The IHS on Skylake and Kaby Lake are thinner than previous generation Intel parts, so it is much more prone to damage.

This is one of the main reasons why dedicated delidding tools have become so popular.
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I believe he was referring to clamping the delidding tool into the vice to generate the pressure needed.
 
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