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Old 08-06-13, 02:12 PM
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FX-9000 5GHz stock

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why is there no thread about this yet.
are they out of their mind? 5GHz stock? what's the stock cooler of that thing? a waterloop?

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Old 08-06-13, 02:17 PM
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FX 9000 @ 5GHZ is equal to a core i5 3570K at stock....... :P
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Old 08-06-13, 02:19 PM
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FX 9000 @ 5GHZ is equal to a core i5 3570K at stock....... :P
Depends what you really mean by that.

Single threaded performance still wouldn't be equal to that of a 3570K, but the multi-threaded performance would be much greater.

So it sorta depends what you mean by it being equal to a 3570K.
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Old 08-06-13, 02:22 PM
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FX 9000 @ 5GHZ is equal to a core i5 3570K at stock....... :P
Sorry mate but I think that's nonsense.
The FX8350 at 4GHz (=stock) performs equally, if a little bit better in games than the 3570k. Please don't be such a fanboy
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Old 08-06-13, 02:23 PM
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All AMD keeps doing is bumping up their clock speeds and core count. Just spend some time and money into actually making a good architecture
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Old 08-06-13, 02:26 PM
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All AMD keeps doing is bumping up their clock speeds and core count. Just spend some time and money into actually making a good architecture
Honestly dude AMD isn't that bad.
Windows 7 had a bug and that was the reason bulldozer failed misserably.
The 8350 performs worse in win7, but according to benchies the 8350 performs quite a bit better.
And AMD has focused on getting developers in to make their games AMD optimised. BF4 will be a good example of this.
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Honestly dude AMD isn't that bad.
Windows 7 had a bug and that was the reason bulldozer failed misserably.
The 8350 performs worse in win7, but according to benchies the 8350 performs quite a bit better.
And AMD has focused on getting developers in to make their games AMD optimised. BF4 will be a good example of this.
i agree with feronix actually. not just because my fx-4100 is complete and utter , but because AMD is focusing on the wrong things. they always use dirty tricks to keep up with the competition, to beat the titan they took two cores, to keep up with intel they use more cores and higher clocks, but the architecture behind it isn't good.
the problem is that they won't be able to get on the level of nvidia or intel anytime soon, which is really a shame. i would prefer AMD anytime over intel or nvidia if they would produce really good products again.
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And AMD has focused on getting developers in to make their games AMD optimised. BF4 will be a good example of this.
Exactly. Instead of spending their money to actually make better quality products, they chose to use it to 'bribe' developers. It works, but it definitely doesn't make their products better.

If only they did, it would push Intel and Nvidia to keep innovating as well. Haswell isn't a big boost from Ivy Bridge and most of the GTX 7xx series will be 'rebrands'. Why? Simply because they don't have to do anything else.

I'm not fanboying or bashing
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Old 08-06-13, 02:45 PM
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FX-9000

why is there no thread about this yet.
are they out of their mind? 5GHz stock? what's the stock cooler of that thing? a waterloop?
It came up in this thread previously:
http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=53701

A 220W TDP is insane, but then again when you consider you've GPUs consuming far more than that on the market, then it isn't so crazy after all.

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All AMD keeps doing is bumping up their clock speeds and core count. Just spend some time and money into actually making a good architecture
Developing a completely new x86 core from the ground up is a massive engineering task, and thus quite expensive. To put things in perspective, the last time Intel did this was with the original Core 2 (Conroe) back in 2006, everything they've released since has just been refinements on that.

Bulldozer was an entirely new (from the ground up) architecture. It underwhelmed but Piledriver made up for it. Steamroller however, is the one to watch, AMD themselves were predicting 30% more performance (clock for clock) which will put them right up there again. I'll be extremely anxious to see what Kaveri's CPU performance is towards the end of this year.

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AMD is focusing on the wrong things.
If you want to talk about what they should and shouldn't be doing, canning the big cores completely (ie. FX and Opteron) would probably be the best thing they could do from a financial standpoint.

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Exactly. Instead of spending their money to actually make better quality products, they chose to use it to 'bribe' developers. It works, but it definitely doesn't make their products better.
'Bribe' isn't the word to use. nVidia have been collaborating far more with developers over the years with their "The Way It's Meant to Be Played" slogan. Better quality drivers are always welcome.
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Sorry mate but I think that's nonsense.
The FX8350 at 4GHz (=stock) performs equally, if a little bit better in games than the 3570k. Please don't be such a fanboy
Was only joking
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