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Seriously have people got nothing better to do with there time !!
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Seriously have people got nothing better to do with there time !!
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Who would win IRA or Taliban, WTF
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IRA were never stupid enough to blow them selves up were they......
Rastalovich
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name='tinytomlogan' said:
About a millionth of the following in comparison too.
I think the IRA were cowards, and it's relatively easy to fight cowards. You just give them a bloody nose back and they will think twice before stepping up again. They were very, very hesitant to get into combat action with the British Army, preferring soft targets instead. Whereas the nutters we know as the Taliban are hardened fighters, having fought the Russians for many years before we got involved over there. They know their country like the back of their hands, and know how to put it to the best use. They are not scared of attacking the forces over there, but they also use guerilla tactics too. Ask any Brit squaddie what he thinks of the Taliban, and they will tell you that they know how to put up a good fight.
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If the vietcong had done that also, vietnam would be a 50 something state of the US today.
Organizations of whatever following do what they want/have to do to promote their struggle. Dependent on very obvious reasons to them.
Organizations of whatever following do what they want/have to do to promote their struggle. Dependent on very obvious reasons to them.
You've lost me there Rasta? If the Viet Cong had done the same as the IRA or the Taliban?
EDIT: The Viet Cong could be compared to the Taliban, as they are using similar tactics. They also had a excellent grasp of battlefield awareness, and how to use the terrain to their advantage, something the IRA lacked.
EDIT: The Viet Cong could be compared to the Taliban, as they are using similar tactics. They also had a excellent grasp of battlefield awareness, and how to use the terrain to their advantage, something the IRA lacked.
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name='tinytomlogan' said:
You want to bet on that quote. !!!
Yes they blew them self's up but not on purpose. You cold never put one against the other but if you know the history of the IRA and the History of the Taliban i would say the Taliban would win due to the fact they are willing to give there lives for there cause by any method possible.
The IRA how ever did have some very good unorthodox milatery skills and there assessment and planning used minimal resources to some cause some devastating effects over all.
I still remember once before we was going out on patrol in NI that we were briefed that the IRA were doing things such as running up to the last man in you squad and just hitting them and running off. Why did they do this ?. Well they were testing out to see if they could run up to the last man in the squad and shoot them at point blank range and run off and get away with it.
Needless to say it never worked and the ratio at what they got caught was not a viable option from them. But then again in county
Armagh (bandit country) they did have hidden some M107 .50 Caliber Long Range Sniper Rifle (LRSR). Now luckily they never hit any one with this thing but if they had they would have caused some real damage and i still remember going out hoping that i never had to face up against one of them things.
I could tell you many stories about the IRA but in the end luckily they went into politics full time peacfully but there leaders who i wont name still should never be allowed to walk the streets but because of politics they are. These leader's and particularly one of them murdered soldiers and got away with it.
The Taliban are very very good in there own country and they use it to there full advantage and are not scared to die for what they believe in and to top it off they have a large base of supporters that will not go quietly. They wont enter in to peace nogociations (cannot spell that word) and pretend to be you friend they just what you dead and that is it.
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name='stuartpb' said:
All the same, each cause do 'what they can' for their particular struggle.
IRA lacked numbers mainly. I mean u can't look at thier last 30/40 years or so cos that was more led by money making gangsters than a legitimate IRA.
Whereas u get the other 2 factions, equally on their own soil, but massively outnumbering the occupiers. The Irish thing, as with many ex.empire exploits is a reversal if u like.
If the IRA had the same numbers as NVA or Taliban, with the occupying Allied being the lesser, they would most likely to exectly what they are doing. It's not a question of cowardly, more of doing what u can do to the occupier.
Perhaps it's braver to fly a plane into a building rather than park a car outside it ?
My Dad done a couple of tours in N.I, in the 70's, not long after it all kicked off over there. I remember some of the stories he used to tell us, but there was a hell of a lot we didn't find out about till after he had died, from my Mum. The IRA were good at what they done, but I still say they were cowards, especially after they realised they couldn't get the forces out by fighting the forces directly. They didn't care who they killed, Catholics, Proddies, women or kids, they were all fair game.
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Many different nationalities, religions, races, ages and sexes in two certain buildings and the collective planes.
And to be fair, there were a whole load of people that turned up in a certain stadium in Ireland.
There are a whole load of stories from all sides during all conflicts.
Yes.
And to be fair, there were a whole load of people that turned up in a certain stadium in Ireland.
There are a whole load of stories from all sides during all conflicts.
name='Freak' said:
Yes.
name='Freak' said:
I said similar in another forum once. Find an island big enough, lay on free flights, and let every terrorist/nutter etc etc play a massive game of last man standing. Let them wipe themselves off the face of the earth, while we can all sit back and enjoy the peace.
name='Rastalovich' said:
Yes but it doesn't make the IRA any less of the scum they were! They didn't just rely on wealthy US sympathisers for their funding, they ran protection rackets, smuggling and quite a few other nasty tricks to keep the money rolling in. I hate it when people try to justify them as an organisation with an axe to grind against the British government. Maybe this was the case back in the day, but as soon as they realised there was money to be made from their 'cause', they acted no better than the Mafia did in the 30's US. I'm not aiming that rant directly at you Rasta, I am just voicing my opinion on stuff I have heard in the past.
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There's scum everywhere m8, all sides - more-so during peace. Thing that boils blood are soldiers who use to sell arms.
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I'd ask the question as to where they got the weapons on such a large scale in order to sell them.
We're not talking about ak47s, fallen off the back of a camel, only dropped once.
U need a fair quantity, british issued, M16s - the same question, as well as czech, italian weapons - weapons from evidence rooms meant for disposal.
All dirty dealings.
We're not talking about ak47s, fallen off the back of a camel, only dropped once.
U need a fair quantity, british issued, M16s - the same question, as well as czech, italian weapons - weapons from evidence rooms meant for disposal.
All dirty dealings.
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