Which build should I choose for gaming?

[SpencerUk]

Alright, guess I need to think about it. 6700k and 5820k does more or less have the same pricetag after all, but overall 5820k should be more powerful (if we take aside the budget-friendly 6600k). I guess I shouldnt go by the idea that just because Skylake is the newest is must be the best.

If you are choosing between a 5820k and a 6700k that's as Kevin Bacon on EE's advert in the UK would say, "a no-brainer"

Choosing between a 6600k and a 5820k is like comparing a Fiat 500 to an Audi A4...

The only downside I see from a 5820k is you appear to be using more power especially when overclocked..

 

[Juusuhako]

If you are choosing between a 5820k and a 6700k that's as Kevin Bacon on EE's advert in the UK would say, "a no-brainer"

Choosing between a 6600k and a 5820k is like comparing a Fiat 500 to an Audi A4...

The only downside I see from a 5820k is you appear to be using more power especially when overclocked..

Well, call me a no-brainer, cus I still didnt catch whether you'd pick 5820k or 6700k.

Surely 850w would be enough for an OCd 5820 and 980ti?

 

[SpencerUk]

Well, call me a no-brainer, cus I still didnt catch whether you'd pick 5820k or 6700k.

Surely 850w would be enough for an OCd 5820 and 980ti?

I'd go 5820k if you're deciding between that and a 6700k. Depending on what your build is, it can cost about £40 more.

850W should be enough, should you go crossfire though I dunno.

6600K is a different proposition...for someone just gaming, I wouldn't say its a bad option at all..that paired with a 980ti you're laughing. Also gives your brother something to aspire to, improving his build (ie maybe then go to an i7)

 

[SpencerUk]

Sorry for the double post but you may find these videos by Digital Foundry of some use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDo-j00vUtw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sx1kLGVAF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaB1dqYv_I

I'd be more tempted to save your money and go i5 on the basis of reading the full article at EuroGamer

 

[Kaapstad]

Hi,
brothers in need of a new gaming rig, and I have 3 builds and wondered which is most worth it.

i5-6600k - £1408 (ddr4)
i7-4790k - £1417 (ddr3)
i7-5820k - £1534 (ddr4)

They all 3 have 16GB ram, 850w PSU and an MSI 980ti. For £18 less it'll be a 750w PSU, but I dont know if he would need 750w or 850w should he ever want a 2nd 980ti. So basically only the CPU and Motherboard is different.

Thanks in advance.

I would go for an i7 4790k system and if you can stretch to it an i7 6700k based system. Forget the 6600k as it could limit your options in the future, with DX12 games on the horizon we could see them using all the cores and threads a CPU has got.

For gaming I am not a great fan of DDR4 either as some of the very fast sticks can be a real pain on X99 but how this plays out with Skylake I don't know. The other thing about gaming is you don't need ultra fast memory and DDR3 is more than quick enough.

 

[Juusuhako]

Sorry for the double post but you may find these videos by Digital Foundry of some use.

I'd be more tempted to save your money and go i5 on the basis of reading the full article at EuroGamer

Thanks for the links.

I would go for an i7 4790k system and if you can stretch to it an i7 6700k based system. Forget the 6600k as it could limit your options in the future, with DX12 games on the horizon we could see them using all the cores and threads a CPU has got.

For gaming I am not a great fan of DDR4 either as some of the very fast sticks can be a real pain on X99 but how this plays out with Skylake I don't know. The other thing about gaming is you don't need ultra fast memory and DDR3 is more than quick enough.

But doesnt both 6600k and 6700k have 4 cores?
Only 5820k has 6 cores.

Whats the pain of DDR4 on X99?

 

[Kaapstad]

Thanks for the links.



But doesnt both 6600k and 6700k have 4 cores?
Only 5820k has 6 cores.

Whats the pain of DDR4 on X99?

The extra threads on the 6700k could bring more benefit with future games.

Yes the 5820k does have 6 cores but is not such a good choice for gaming compared to the other two.

DDR4 on X99 at extreme speed ratings can be an absolute dog to setup and run.

 

[Juusuhako]

The extra threads on the 6700k could bring more benefit with future games.

Yes the 5820k does have 6 cores but is not such a good choice for gaming compared to the other two.

DDR4 on X99 at extreme speed ratings can be an absolute dog to setup and run.

I see. Wont the game just only untilize the amount of cores it can, and leave the rest? I find it confusing how 6 cores will be a less good choice for gaming, compared to 4.

The reason im also considering those 6 cores is because of DX12 and hopefully games being able to utilize more than 4 cores in a year or two.

In regards to ram, dont you just use the XMP profile it comes with?

 

[cooperman]

 

[Juusuhako]

Since he wanted genuine windows (ahem), it ended up with 6600k.
Final build looks like this: http://prntscr.com/82qg1n

For some reason 2666mhz rams are cheaper, but out of stock. Motherboard more or less randomly picked, since most had the same price. Im sure he'll be happy coming from his i7-920.

Im obviously open for suggestions about the build if anyone has an input, but else I'll be ordering tomorrow for him!

 

[NeverBackDown]

Drop the 4x4GB kit, get a single 2x8GB kit. In the future if you ever needed more ram you could add another 2 sticks. Whereas with a 4x4GB kit, you'd have to buy another whole set. Also would drop the PSU down to 750watts. 850 for a single 980ti is little over the top.

 

[Kaapstad]

I see. Wont the game just only untilize the amount of cores it can, and leave the rest? I find it confusing how 6 cores will be a less good choice for gaming, compared to 4.

The reason im also considering those 6 cores is because of DX12 and hopefully games being able to utilize more than 4 cores in a year or two.

In regards to ram, dont you just use the XMP profile it comes with?

The 5820k is not a bad CPU for gaming and yes the extra cores could come in handy some time in the future.

The reason the 4790k or 6700k would be a slightly better compromise is because they will overclock slightly better than the 5820k. The 6700k will also be slightly more efficient per core than the 5820k.

On X99 using extreme speed DDR4 (3200mhz+) even if you just use the XMP profile that is no guarantee it will run and sometimes it can take a lot of tinkering to get it stable.

 

[Juusuhako]

Drop the 4x4GB kit, get a single 2x8GB kit. In the future if you ever needed more ram you could add another 2 sticks. Whereas with a 4x4GB kit, you'd have to buy another whole set. Also would drop the PSU down to 750watts. 850 for a single 980ti is little over the top.

Alright, found a dual-channel kit. In regards to PSU, its simply to leave the window open for a sli-setup, should he ever want a 2nd card.

The 5820k is not a bad CPU for gaming and yes the extra cores could come in handy some time in the future.

The reason the 4790k or 6700k would be a slightly better compromise is because they will overclock slightly better than the 5820k. The 6700k will also be slightly more efficient per core than the 5820k.

On X99 using extreme speed DDR4 (3200mhz+) even if you just use the XMP profile that is no guarantee it will run and sometimes it can take a lot of tinkering to get it stable.

The 6700k is not on the table, its 6600k. I read about the memory issues with X99 (for some at least), so thats a big downer.

 

[SpencerUk]

Alright, found a dual-channel kit. In regards to PSU, its simply to leave the window open for a sli-setup, should he ever want a 2nd card.

The 6700k is not on the table, its 6600k. I read about the memory issues with X99 (for some at least), so thats a big downer.

I'd still go 6600k and pair it with a good GPU..Hell even use the saving to go SLI or Crossfire X?

It also gives your brother something to aspire to if he wanted to upgrade. There's some scope. If you went X99 its pretty much going to be just a processor upgrade which will cost you a kidney, and possibly an arm and a leg lol

 

[Juusuhako]

I'd still go 6600k and pair it with a good GPU..Hell even use the saving to go SLI or Crossfire X?

It also gives your brother something to aspire to if he wanted to upgrade. There's some scope. If you went X99 its pretty much going to be just a processor upgrade which will cost you a kidney, and possibly an arm and a leg lol

Will do. Hes getting an MSI 980TI. Unfortunately the Asus Strix model was out of stock .