Upgrading from HD 5770 1GB

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uuboy86

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Hello all! (First post)

I am currently running a AMD Radeon HD 5770 with 1GB of RAM,

I am just getting back into gaming and since I'm working in IT, my pride is on the line, as well as just wanting SWEET resolution :D.

I'm looking to buy a card which will run Bioshock Inf. / Devil May Cry 5 / and Starcraft II on Ultra,

Hopefully 60+ F/ps

but I'd only like to spend a max of $500 ish.

A note: I am not ready to upgrade my mobo and CPU, and currently only have a PCI 2.0 16x mobo, will this be a hinderance? From what I've read, I think not...

I'm not sure whether to go AMD or Nvidia, but I like the IDEA of trying Nvidia, since I've only ever had ATI/AMD chipsets for the past 10 yrs :)

Thanks in advance!!
 
PCI-e 2.0 16x is fine mate :)
I'd get the NVidia GTX 670 FTW from EVGA.
Solid performer, and only a few FPS slower than the GTX 680.
Hope this helped a bit :)
Cheers!
EDIT: If you're going 2560x1440 or higher, you'd need to get 2 670s to run all the games on ultra at 60FPS+
 
Looks nice! And at $400 the price can't be beat :)

If i were to go multi-card with my current mobo, it'll only support x-fire (I think...) Do some mobo's only support SLI and some only support X-Fire?
 
Mate, please edit your posts using the
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button in the bottom right corner instead of double posting :)

That said, the games you just named aren't the most demanding so I honestly think that you could even get away with a GTX 660 Ti. Though if you want an AMD card, by all means go for it. They are more bang for the buck at the moment (a tad more performance for the price). The free games are a nice bonus :p
 
LoL TBH I think a HD4870 can run DMC at 60FPS it is incredibly easy going on my HD 7970. Uses only 20% of the GPU at 1080p
 
uuboy86 said:
Do some mobo's only support SLI and some only support X-Fire?
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Crossfire X requirements. Two PCIE lanes, one of which can be 4x.

SLI requirements - License from Nvidia, second lane must be 8x minimum.

Crossfire X is woefully broken and I agree with A-N ; you're going to need to go multiple cards *or* buy a 690 for that resolution. Well, that is if you want to turn all settings to max and not sacrifice AA.
 
I should mention that I am currently using my 46" Samsung LED TV as a display, so max res is not super high with this display~ 1920x1080
 
for 1920x1080 a single 670 will be more than sufficient for your needs mate. Also with regards to your question about SLI and crossfire. All boards that you can use SLI on will be fine for a single card too. It's not exclusive to SLI or crossfire
 
Thanks everyone for your input, I'm delaying gratification on this one, and putting aside $100/ week for 4 weeks, and then buying it. I need something to reward myself with for keeping up with the homework in my IT classes ;)
 
Sorry if my response is a little late, or un-needed, but here it is anyway. (#Yolo)

With $500 you can definitely get a sweet GPU. And to answer your question, PCI 2.0 is fine, if anything, you won't really see much of a bonus over 3.0. And I have to disagree with someone, you won't need 2 GTX 670's To remain at 60+ FPS on 2560x1440.

On this occasion I'd personally go with an HD 7970 :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150632

But a GTX 670 doesn't fall far behind, and is a little cheaper than the 7970.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787

And if memory is really needed, you could even go with a 4GB GTX 670:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130785
 
your monitor has 60 hz, as far as i understand this, you wont pass the fps barrier constantly.

if you want to increase your fps you could buy a new monitor of 120hz

the rendering speed is inside your computer and not outside (gaming related), took me a while to understand that, and fps do not improve your gaming.

fps is the speed your computer renders the scene
latency is the speed the data is been transmited

the gpu helps the fps, you can have 60 gpus and you wont pass the 120 fps, your monitor frecuency is 60hz then the max fps you will probably see is rarely 100, and you will be like OMG 100 !!!!!!!!!!
well if your enviroment doesnt move it will rend faster <_<

if you want to spend some bucks, just to get more fps, im pretty sure a 120hz monitor will suit that, however if you think your going to get more fps like 1k fps or so, your dreaming.

eigther way i recomend to improve your gpu to gtx 670, theres alot of good reviews of it and the benchmarks are pretty sick

after that you will see your fps do not increase dramaticly, and you could buy another monitor, however is just waisting money

normal cinema movies have 24 fps
hd movies will have 48 fps


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate

anything beyond 24 you cant really see it, not entirely, as a gamer my self i thought more fps = more speed, well i was wrong with that 1.

just to know a bit more about it, whats your latency playing online games, and if you dont play online games why in hell do you want a pc to play games <_<



edit :
The msconfig on windows will give you acces to the startup setup, "all the programs that consume memory on the startup and run on the background" try closing some of the anoying programs, and check if your fps moves to 70, if so what you need is a bit more ram, however and like i said before more fps wont improve your gaming, its mostly monitor+internet speed+programs in the background(ram used)+gpu(it does plug into your monitor isnt it ?)= game speed

and if you got that anoying akami or akamai service bs crap, just turn that off, its amazing the amount of bandwidth that crap takes from you when your not even using it

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just for the sake of it, plug your monitor in your pc without the gpu, and check the fps there, try that on games that do not need a gpu, dont try that on new games please <_<, the difference wont be that much, its the same monitor
 
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That 7970 looks really sweet! And the 30 dollar rebate boasts a great value at $419!

The next parts I'll be upgrading after the graphics will be the Mobo/CPU/memory.

Current setup:

CPU: AMD Phenom2 X4 Quad Core 3.4GHz
Memory: 6GB DDR3 1066MHz
Mobo: ASRock (something AM3 compat)

--- I'm thinking of going Intel this time around, and not sure how important these points are:

-i5 vs. i7?
-ASUS vs. an off brand like ASRock?
-Faster Memory, is it worth pushing this three-part upgrade sooner than later?

Thanks for your continued expertise and advice :)
 
WeskerPG said:
your monitor has 60 hz, as far as i understand this, you wont pass the fps barrier constantly.

if you want to increase your fps you could buy a new monitor of 120hz

the rendering speed is inside your computer and not outside (gaming related), took me a while to understand that, and fps do not improve your gaming.

fps is the speed your computer renders the scene
latency is the speed the data is been transmited

the gpu helps the fps, you can have 60 gpus and you wont pass the 120 fps, your monitor frecuency is 60hz then the max fps you will probably see is rarely 100, and you will be like OMG 100 !!!!!!!!!!
well if your enviroment doesnt move it will rend faster <_<

if you want to spend some bucks, just to get more fps, im pretty sure a 120hz monitor will suit that, however if you think your going to get more fps like 1k fps or so, your dreaming.

eigther way i recomend to improve your gpu to gtx 670, theres alot of good reviews of it and the benchmarks are pretty sick

after that you will see your fps do not increase dramaticly, and you could buy another monitor, however is just waisting money

normal cinema movies have 24 fps
hd movies will have 48 fps


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate

anything beyond 24 you cant really see it, not entirely, as a gamer my self i thought more fps = more speed, well i was wrong with that 1.

just to know a bit more about it, whats your latency playing online games, and if you dont play online games why in hell do you want a pc to play games <_<



edit :
The msconfig on windows will give you acces to the startup setup, "all the programs that consume memory on the startup and run on the background" try closing some of the anoying programs, and check if your fps moves to 70, if so what you need is a bit more ram, however and like i said before more fps wont improve your gaming, its mostly monitor+internet speed+programs in the background= game speed

and if you got that anoying akami or akamai service bs crap, just turn that off, its amazing the amount of bandwidth that crap takes from you when your not even using it
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This is my TV/monitor, it has 120hz / with 240hz clear motion rate

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-U...ultra-slim-LED-HDTV/21998224?findingMethod=rr
 
You won't need a new monitor.. Maybe a higher res IPS monitor would be worthwhile investment for the future, just focus on upgrading your GPU for now.
 
i wouldnt call that a monitor, thats what i call a TV LOL

i have a tv that size that i can plug in, its ridicolous i cant see anything and i got killed everytime

O_O 6 gb ram ? you only got 6 gb ram <_<
1x 4
1x 2 ?

how many windows can u open with 6gb ram <_<
gtx670 + a 8gb ram
 
uuboy86 said:
That 7970 looks really sweet! And the 30 dollar rebate boasts a great value at $419!

The next parts I'll be upgrading after the graphics will be the Mobo/CPU/memory.

Current setup:

CPU: AMD Phenom2 X4 Quad Core 3.4GHz
Memory: 6GB DDR3 1066MHz
Mobo: ASRock (something AM3 compat)

--- I'm thinking of going Intel this time around, and not sure how important these points are:

-i5 vs. i7?
-ASUS vs. an off brand like ASRock?
-Faster Memory, is it worth pushing this three-part upgrade sooner than later?

Thanks for your continued expertise and advice :)
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The 7970 I linked also comes with Far Cry 3 and something else, I forgot and can't be bothered to look lol, sorry.

As for your questions. i5 vs i7 depends on what you need and what you'll be doing. Nobody can simply answer i5 vs i7. For most things, a Quad Core i5 will suffice most needs. But if you're a heavy video editor then perhaps the extra threads of an i7 would be better. But if not, an i5 would, etc. If you're strictly a gamer, then you could just go with an i3-3220 and you'd be fine. However an i5 comes in handy on big multi-player games, such as 64 player BF3. But in general, you have to give us a little more info.

As for Motherboards, I generally recommend ASRock for most builds. So here I'm inclined to say an ASRock Board. For example, The Z77 Extreme series.

As for RAM speed, I'd say yes. Generally 1600MHz is decent. I've never really needed any higher. And you can pick up 8GB's of Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz ram for around $60. And again if you're strictly a gamer, you won't need any more than that.

Edit: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-U...ultra-slim-LED-HDTV/21998224?findingMethod=rr

That's a darn sweet TV, wish I had a bad boy like that. I didn't know that's what you had though. If you bought that to be your monitor, or thought you'd wear 2 shoes with one foot, (use it as a monitor and a TV), I personally would downsize and perhaps downgrade that TV, so you could still afford to buy an actual TV as well as a proper monitor. And for several reasons really, one of them being the size, could damage your eyesight sitting that close to such a large screen.
 
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