Rastalovich
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Ya the basic theory is u`r mobo will access both memory slots at the same time, rather than just one slot.
Upgrade or no upgrade..
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Dont give the guy harsh info.
What they are trying to tell you is to get Dual Channel ram. It is making your ram 128-bit wide instead of 64-bit wide. In other words it can read and write/up and down, at the same time. It gives you a great performance increase. You cant have DC ram from just sticking 2 sticks of ram in there. THey have to be a matched pair, no matter what stupid people say. As in, go to Newegg and youll see 2x1gig ram which is 2 1gig sticks that are matched to make 2 gig of DC Ram.
I suggest since your already running your X2 OCed (same clocks i had mine) then just get a used pair of 2x1gig PC3200 sticks and youll be fine. I have 4gig obviously, and apart from what others say, DDR is still damn good. DDR2 may be faster, but youll never see some running timings like mine are. And they DO make fast DDR1, just you gotta pay for it. I suspect DDR will still be around for a while, untill DDR3 comes out and DDR2 is a fast and cheap standard. 2gig is about the usual for most gaming rigs now. Beefy 2 (Battlefield 2) used to require 2 gig for me but ive found other ways of getting around needing about 2 gig for that game. Most games though will perform alot better if you have 2gig of ram backing it up. Your video card is badass, so no need to worry there.
What they are trying to tell you is to get Dual Channel ram. It is making your ram 128-bit wide instead of 64-bit wide. In other words it can read and write/up and down, at the same time. It gives you a great performance increase. You cant have DC ram from just sticking 2 sticks of ram in there. THey have to be a matched pair, no matter what stupid people say. As in, go to Newegg and youll see 2x1gig ram which is 2 1gig sticks that are matched to make 2 gig of DC Ram.
I suggest since your already running your X2 OCed (same clocks i had mine) then just get a used pair of 2x1gig PC3200 sticks and youll be fine. I have 4gig obviously, and apart from what others say, DDR is still damn good. DDR2 may be faster, but youll never see some running timings like mine are. And they DO make fast DDR1, just you gotta pay for it. I suspect DDR will still be around for a while, untill DDR3 comes out and DDR2 is a fast and cheap standard. 2gig is about the usual for most gaming rigs now. Beefy 2 (Battlefield 2) used to require 2 gig for me but ive found other ways of getting around needing about 2 gig for that game. Most games though will perform alot better if you have 2gig of ram backing it up. Your video card is badass, so no need to worry there.
matched pairs are only pairs that come off the line one after the other afaik
eg, one comes out the manuf line and then the next one get selected to go with the one before 'matching'...well thats what i thought anyway lol
if he buys another stick of exactly the same ram it should work dual channel no problem as they are both the same specs.
cheers.
eg, one comes out the manuf line and then the next one get selected to go with the one before 'matching'...well thats what i thought anyway lol
if he buys another stick of exactly the same ram it should work dual channel no problem as they are both the same specs.
cheers.
name='raging-savage' said:
My old kingston value being living proof of that. Matched pairs will deffinatly work, thought about unmatched pairs will work exactly the same.
And what mobo are you running tox? I would have thought you could have got more then 2.6 out of it with some proper tweeking.
name='Toxcity' said:I am running an Asus A8N SLI SE.
So your saying if I get another gig or ram I will see a huge boost?
Does it have to be the same? couldn't you get the same spec but different make?
you probably could but it would work out better if they where both the same,more 'matched' rather than a mix up.
I was only refering to the matched for people who dont quite understand. I know that you could buy a 1gig stick or Corsair V-Select and then buy another stick later and they would work. Thats how i have 4gig, but im just trying to make it simple here.
As long as you have 2gig of the same ram (speed, timings, brand ect) to make dual channel then youll see a performance boost.
As long as you have 2gig of the same ram (speed, timings, brand ect) to make dual channel then youll see a performance boost.
Rastalovich
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name='raging-savage' said:
Ya, pc freaks love or like to know their memstrips are 'matching' to that effect, and it leads to a % of extra consistancy in a system.
To get a performance increase from just 1 stick, a 2nd stick to the existing doesn`t need to be 100% the same, it`s just better if it has the same stats. The more exact they are the similar they can be 'stressed'. They unmatch to an enourmous extent, one will complain b4 the other. (if u look at it that way, clocking etc).
Sticky Mick
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You don't need to get matched pairs as in the sense of going on a wild goose chase to find the stick that came off the line immediately after the stick that you've already got. That would be next to impossible, unless you buy a dual channel kit.
Only dumbsh*t awkward mobo manufacturers would insist on that.
I've got 1gig (2x512) GeIL RAM in my board, they were both purchased 3 months apart and they are running in DC. All you need is each stick to be the same manufacturer, same size (obviously), same speed and everything else. Then bung 'em in slots A1 and B1 and you're away.
Only dumbsh*t awkward mobo manufacturers would insist on that.
I've got 1gig (2x512) GeIL RAM in my board, they were both purchased 3 months apart and they are running in DC. All you need is each stick to be the same manufacturer, same size (obviously), same speed and everything else. Then bung 'em in slots A1 and B1 and you're away.
FarFarAway
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You don't have to run matched pairs but it cuts down on headaches with different chips not liking dual channel
That's the long and the short of it really.
A64 memory controller is pretty good really, but can be pretty picky sometimes, especially for the FX chips
That's the long and the short of it really.
A64 memory controller is pretty good really, but can be pretty picky sometimes, especially for the FX chips
Yea but if you say it that way then some people believe you can put like Kingston 2700 and Corsair 3200 and expect to run dual channel mode. It dosent work that way. So i try to keep it simple with saying just go to Newegg (or w/e over teh giant pond) and buy a dual channel kit.
FarFarAway
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You can do it that way. It's just not likely to work/work as well
running a slow stick in DCHAN will lower it to the lowest speed
running a slow stick in DCHAN will lower it to the lowest speed
FarFarAway
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name='PP Mguire' said:
So have I, and it does depending on the RAM u use
Sticky Mick
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There could be some confusion over "actual chip manufacturer" and "module manufacturer". The majority of "module manufacturers" don't manufacture their own chips. It's possible you could come across two different "module manufacturers" but the chips are made by the same "chip manufacturers", thus dictating the speed, voltage and layout of the PCB.
But get two modules with different "chip manufacturers" and you're asking for trouble. And it is possible to get two modules from Kingston etc with two different "chip manufacturers". If certain "module manufacturers" can't get chips from one source, they'll go to another.
But get two modules with different "chip manufacturers" and you're asking for trouble. And it is possible to get two modules from Kingston etc with two different "chip manufacturers". If certain "module manufacturers" can't get chips from one source, they'll go to another.
