The great global warming swindle.

[limqareb]

well human caused or natural , global warming is still taking place

 

[Nagaru]

well human caused or natural , global warming is still taking place

Well if we assume that global warming does exist, and say it is natural, do you think we should do something about it?

 

[Rastalovich]

Taking things off the planet can be even more dangerous.

Imagine a ball revolving around another ball, u add or subtract from it`s mass, and the distance between the 2 balls will change.

A simple term to say that the earth within it`s atmostphere is a closed system. It`s weight is constant, apart from the things that drop into the atmosphere from outside.

U change the weight of the closed earth system and it`s orbit will change.

Similarly, if 1 half of the earth contains over half of it`s population, the shape of the earth changes. Instead of a ball revolving, you can picture u`r tennis ball spinning with a bit of chewing gum stuck to it.

All these things can change the way the earth rotates about the sun, which can change alot of things climate wize.

It`s also mankind`s arrogance to think that the earth is theirs. The lifespan of mankind as a whole is but a finite part of it`s history. It`ll be here long before the race has gone, barring anything catastrophic. And the likes of the ant and coc-roach will outlive the fittest of us.

A coc-roach can survive in u`r neuclear waste

 

[mrapoc]

^ Could be true...unless the earth gets destoryed with humans on it, then who would have been the last surviving species I ask you?

 

[Toxcity]

Good damn green coc-roachs everywhere!

 

[Rastalovich]

^ Could be true...unless the earth gets destoryed with humans on it, then who would have been the last surviving species I ask you?

Coc roaches would live on the resulting asteroid lmao !

 

[Toxcity]

^ Could be true...unless the earth gets destoryed with humans on it, then who would have been the last surviving species I ask you?

HUMANS!

The peeps living in the space stantions!

 

[PP Mguire]

Im sure if the Earth was destroyed the resulting blast would destroy the space station. Not only that, even if it didnt destroy it they would float to where? No more gravity to keep them in orbit.

 

[Toxcity]

Aarh man good point.

 

[Phnom_Penh]

U change the weight of the closed earth system and it`s orbit will change.

I'm pretty sure that's not true, as the equation for the acceleration due to gravity is a = MG/r*r, and as the mass of the sun is a hell of a lot bigger (over 300000 times bigger), any mass change of the earth is going to be negligible.

Im sure if the Earth was destroyed the resulting blast would destroy the space station. Not only that, even if it didnt destroy it they would float to where? No more gravity to keep them in orbit.

How exactly would the earth just disappear? and they'd probably end up in the gravity field of venus or mars, if not the sun's.

 

[Dav0s]

al gore is a politician who made that video when he was running for candidacy. of course he speaks BS.

i not completely disputing what he said, but a political video is not the msot reliable source of information is it.

 

[PP Mguire]

How exactly would the earth just disappear? and they'd probably end up in the gravity field of venus or mars, if not the sun's.

Lemme clarify the last part sorry. If the space station didnt destroy where would it float too. Not only that, where would they get more supplies? They would eventualy die.

 

[Phnom_Penh]

Lemme clarify the last part sorry. If the space station didnt destroy where would it float too. Not only that, where would they get more supplies? They would eventualy die.

Well firstly, what happened to the earth? it couldn't just disappear .

 

[PP Mguire]

^ Could be true...unless the earth gets destoryed with humans on it, then who would have been the last surviving species I ask you?

HUMANS!

The peeps living in the space stantions!

Im sure if the Earth was destroyed the resulting blast would destroy the space station. Not only that, even if it didnt destroy it they would float to where? No more gravity to keep them in orbit.

Then use my last post to correct myself on the last part of my own post.

 

[FarFarAway]

after all the investigations, debates etc, im sure the temperature has only risen by 1 degree a year neway

Just re-read this. 1°C a year is a helluva lot mate

I think we all know global warming is BS so this thread is like eh now.

Seriously we are polluting our world and upsetting the natural balance. Of course it will affect the climate. Hell we're better at making species of animals extinct than the "great extinction" when the dinosaurs died out

 

[nathan]

the way i see it is;

Weather global warming is or isnt caused by us, its just stupid to think "o, it's not my fault so im doing nothing about it"

And for those of you saying that "humans will adapt", i think us being more careful about pollution is "adapting"

 

[Nagaru]

the way i see it is;

Weather global warming is or isnt caused by us, its just stupid to think "o, it's not my fault so im doing nothing about it"

And for those of you saying that "humans will adapt", i think us being more careful about pollution is "adapting"

If it is real, and a natural phenomenon I don't think we should interfere humans are very good at screwing things up. If we get involved we will mess the whole system up, and then complain when it is getting too cold.

 

[Rastalovich]

I'm pretty sure that's not true, as the equation for the acceleration due to gravity is a = MG/r*r, and as the mass of the sun is a hell of a lot bigger (over 300000 times bigger), any mass change of the earth is going to be negligible.

I know a physics teacher who`d be willing to argue with ya.

The effect I was looking for was the change to the shape of the orbit and how infact the axis of the earth is changing.

If u put u`r statement on it`s head, if the mass of the sun increases or decreases, it`ll effect the earth inversely to how u suggest.

Every single remenant of space debris that gets burnt up and adds to the collective mass of the sun. I`m sure we can find a scientist that will explain how the sun is equally burning out, which could be decreasing it`s mass.

So if the sun`s mass is changing, how do we effect that ? Being in the region of a negligable 300000 times smaller ?

Maybe like throwing a snowball at a volcano to stop an eruption.

 

[Rastalovich]

Another thing no1 seems to be thinking of, is can humans make a device that turns co2 into o ? I bet there is, I`m sure the likes of NASA have some theories based around it.

If this is the case, strap a big mf houver thing to the back of a plane (obviously make sure it`s effect is bigger than the plane`s carbon footprint or the media will have something else to buzz-style-complain about) and fly it around the world.

U can`t tell me there`s not 1 scientist on the planet who can`t convert co2 to o ?!?!

Won`t happen.

 

[Phnom_Penh]

I know a physics teacher who`d be willing to argue with ya.

The effect I was looking for was the change to the shape of the orbit and how infact the axis of the earth is changing.

If u put u`r statement on it`s head, if the mass of the sun increases or decreases, it`ll effect the earth inversely to how u suggest.

Every single remenant of space debris that gets burnt up and adds to the collective mass of the sun. I`m sure we can find a scientist that will explain how the sun is equally burning out, which could be decreasing it`s mass.

So if the sun`s mass is changing, how do we effect that ? Being in the region of a negligable 300000 times smaller ?

I said the Earth's mass tiny compared to the Sun's, so any mass change of the earth will have no negligible effect on the orbit, as it's the Sun's gravity, not the earth's that keeps us going round the Sun. Changing the mass of the Sun will therefore effect the earths orbit, as the gravity of the sun is proportional to its mass. (another example is say if you drop a hammer and a feather in a vacuum, they both hit the ground the same time, as although they have different masses, the difference between them is negligible in comparison to the size of the earth).

The Sun makes up 99.8% of the mass in our solar system. Add the planets, and there's not a lot left, so it isn't going to get any bigger yet... It is however getting smaller as it burns up, and in about a billion years, the sun will be 10% hotter, and in 3.5 billion years, the oceans on earth will boil and it will be too hot to live on. A bit later than that maybe 7 billion years from now, the sun will become a red giant, and will swallow mercury, and will scorch earth and venus, but won't consume them because it's mass will decrease and they will move away from it due to the decreased gravity. Now there's global warming for you, but I don't think I'll be caring about it .

We don't.