Started thinking about WC again, quick question!

[Ibanez81]

Thanks!

So My Pump Inlet should go Straight into the Rez first? Hmm... Might have to rethink the layout ;(

Also The Phobya Res Has Slight Crazing In The Plastic Tube (usually caused by glue)and is normally unavoidable but im just not sure if its safe to use or if its a common thing on there Rez's? It says its been pressure tested to 2 bar anyway? Which leads me to the Pump, Which setting should i use?

 

[SieB]

Thanks!

So My Pump Inlet should go Straight into the Rez first? Hmm... Might have to rethink the layout ;(

Also The Phobya Res Has Slight Crazing In The Plastic Tube (usually caused by glue)and is normally unavoidable but im just not sure if its safe to use or if its a common thing on there Rez's? It says its been pressure tested to 2 bar anyway? Which leads me to the Pump, Which setting should i use?

Your pump outlet should come before your res.

That will be glue you can see and for the pump which ever setting you want, as long as the coolant is being pumped around the loop you are ok.

 

[Ibanez81]

Next question, The Phobya Res, does it have to Have The 4 connections at the bottom? I cant have it upside down ect or can i? Would work great if i could have it upside down

 

[SieB]

You can have it any way you want but the pump outlet needs to go into the res and the res outlet need to go back to the rad the next part in your loop. As long as you have it that way around you will be ok.

Rad > CPU > GPU > pump > res > rad

as long as you have

pump > res

the order of the others doesn't matter

 

[Ibanez81]

Right so My pump has to be Pushing the liquid into the Res? I cant have The Pump Drawing liquid from the rez?

Is there a reason for this?

 

[SieB]

So the Res Going into the Pump outlet right? (the pump drawing Fluid from the Res)

Il Say what Ive sort of got planned.

Res Into Pump (outlet) Pump into Rad (inlet) Rad>CPU>GPU and then back into the Res??

The outlet of your pump goes into the res

You start at the rad, then into the CPU, out of the CPU into the GPU, GPU to the inlet of the pump, then outlet of the pump into the res and finally out of the res back into the rad.  

 

[Ibanez81]

hmm This then means i need to mount my Pump on show at the bottom of my case :/

and also change the rez mounting lol

And sorry yea i got Confused on that last post i made

 

[hmmblah]

I don't have my loop going like that. I have my res up higher, then the outlet goes to the pump. From there it's Rad1 > Rad2 > CPU > Res > pump.

 

[SieB]

 

[Ibanez81]

Is there a reason to have the Pump going straight into the rez?

Yea i think hhhmblah's is Like what i was planning on. Having the Pump Sucking from the Res?

 

[SieB]

Everything I have read says pump should come before the res, not sure what the actual reason is but i've read it a few times at different places.

It could just be because it's the easiest way to do, I don't know, lol, Just passing on what I have read. You can have your res or pump mounted wherever you like though, I have just read that the pump should come before the res.

 

[Ibanez81]

Ah ive just found it Its Ok to have your pump going straight into the Radiator, As the Pump Can warm the water up also? I might Be fine then. Il give it a go anyway

 

[Ibanez81]

Harder than i thought it was going to be flushing it lol I guess its because my Rez is the lowest part of the Loop,

How do i get all the water out?

 

[Elky72]

Very interesting thread. planning on building a WC rig with a I7 and 7970. Also browsing for parts at the moment. The goal is ultra quiet.

My first tought was a xspc res with pump in it, but now I'm wondering if I should go for the D5 pump on a lower speed. Also are the DDC pump really that noisy? Have found a casing to mount the DDC pumps in, to insulate against noise.

 

[S_I_N]

imho you want the rez feeding the pump not pump feeding rez. kinda seems backwards you want rez before pump so you dont starve the pump accidently during filling and bleeding

 

[sheroo]

OK, this might be a dumb question, and if so I apologise - When you put a res top directly onto a pump, is it pulling liquid from the res or pushing liquid into it? The only reason I ask, is that surely this is a proven setup and the manufacturers would engineer this in the most practical way?

 

[S_I_N]

pulling it out mate. Ideally pumps push fluid thru the system the way you suggest it pulls it thru which will work the same as pushing in all regards. so if the rez is before the pump it will push the fluid thru. Once the loop is filled its all the same as far as performance. One just runs the risk of running the pump dry (bad) if its pulled thru during initial filling and bleeding.

seen here in TTL's vid beginning water cooling the pump pushes the fluid thru starts at about 5:10 on filling the loop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzBB...xt=C3ee25a3UDOEgsToPDskItjMs_msUbA2u-EfrbCxby

 

[dipzy]

i read some time ago that the coolant should flow from cpu > rad > res > pump > cpu, reason was that hot coolant shoudn't go into pump before getting cooled in rad. Is this true? I have never water-cooled so im confused as to what is the right way, unless there is no right way

 

[S_I_N]

well rez pump cpu rad back to rez is the same as you laid out but it really doesnt matter if you go rad before cpu or after the temp difference is nominal. And the water temps are not that hot that a pump should any diverse ill effects if the water comes from the cpu. most do rad before rez to take out that last couple degrees before it hits the cpu for optimal temps.

 

[SieB]

The way I have it is

rad>cpu>pump>res>rad

It really doesn't make much difference which way you have it, but the way I see it is, if you start at the rad next is your CPU, so strait away heat from that is then carried into the pump (or GPU if you have one WC'd) then that is all the hot parts of the loop.

So by passing through all the hot parts, all the heat from the loop is then passed through the res and then into the rad where all the heat is dissipated.

So, when the water comes back out the rad all the heat from the all the parts has passed through the res and into the rad.

If you have the pump after the res then it has to pass through another hot part, the pump, after passing through a cool part, the res. It just makes more sense to me to have the coolant pass through all the hot parts and then out through all the cool parts.

When filling the loop the pump won't run dry if you keep the coolant topped up enough and you can turn the pump off before all the fluid is passed through. Then you just top it up again and turn it back on. Soon enough there will be enough coolant in the loop that you can leave it running. If you are using a drivebay res you can just add all the fluid till the res is full, as you fill the res it fills the tubes before filling the res so by the time the res is full there is enough coolant in the loop so that there is no chance of the pump running dry.

For draining you don't need to run the pump so there is no need to worry about the pump run dry. You can run a pump dry for over 30secs with no problems, thats more than enough time to turn it off it it does run dry.

Just my twenty pence.