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KingNosser said:
When the spanish flu spread it came via the mail, it wouldn't be out of the norm for it to happen the same way, i've looked into this virus a lot the last few weeks we best hope it doesnt get worse we need spring and summer to kill it off at least until next winter when maybe they are more prepared for it.
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Your research has failed you then. It doesn't survive on the surface for more than a few hours. Extremely unlikely for that to be it.

It would have to have shipped locally, passed through machines, dozens of humans, and all be within a small tight window of time and then be in contact with the end user. Not likely.

However with that said as of yesterday they announced that people are getting the virus with little or no clue as to how it happened. It originated from bats most likely and as it's spreading in random locations it technically is now considered a pandemic meeting 2 of the 3 criteria for such a classification. So it's clearly become more active. Other than what I said earlier it's unclear how it's spreading so quickly. But they have stated mail isn't really the issue. It's person to person.


Only get your information from the CDC or WHO
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/summary.html
 
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Dicehunter said:
Very good point, Although I think after the main spread of this disease stops the whole world needs to demand that China clean up its act, The amount of deadly diseases that come out of that country every few years is beyond a joke.
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I just read that the UK is willing to shut down cities as worst case scenario if needed.
 
It doesnt take much for you to get in contact with it, the people wearing masks are not wearing them to protect themselves but to stop them from spreading it to others if they do have it. As for all the info the last people I'd trust is any goverment department no matter who they are, their main aim is to not cause panic, best not to look into all the info that is out there, it's far worse than your going to see on the news.

I've watched a lot about it and most of it gets taken down, but the chinesse in the worst effected areas have a ticket system for entering a building only if you live there and use tooth picks to use the elevators, but in truth if you do get it not only will you not know you have it for a time but you have 80% chance on recovering and beyond that it's still only 3% but that is life. Then comes the question is any of the info being put out on the numbers even factual hard to say really.

As for it not surviving on surfaces for long I'd say that is hard to prove but the chinesse sure think it's an issue cause they are spraying disinfectant all over the place, only takes a little looking to see that.
 
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Dicehunter said:
All borders shut be closed off, No one in or out.
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Far, far too late for that. Just hope that vaccine comes quick. Early signs are good, and apparently it's gonna be pretty cheap.

My day has been really good. Best in ages. I took apart my Alienware X51 and gave it a good clean after testing. It was sat on the Windows recovery black screen for Win 8.

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That was before, and it was clogged. Not terribly, but old brown dust. Two hours later...

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CLEAN.

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moar CLEAN.

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OK so here is where it gets weird. The seller listed it, and I quote "Black screen white writing, no boot". Now that could have been one of two things.

1. He's a noob and doesn't know how to install Windows or, the hard drive was dead (I suspected the latter)
2. He's a liar and playing dumb because it's really really broken.

So after cleaning I fitted one of my old 500gb drives. It was making a buzzing sound. I thought "Oh god, the power rail to the HDD is bad !" but when I replaced the drive with the 1tb red that came in it the noise stopped. So whilst I was waiting for the SSD to arrive I figured sod it, let's install Win 10 and see if the drive works in any way.

It installed fine. I ran a quick scan HDtune and it showed no errors. Not that I trust a quick scan. Any way, the SSD arrived so I took the HDD back out and installed Win 10 again. It even has a working key on FFS. So I didn't have to buy one.

Once that was done and I was happy I took it back out and installed the 1tb back in and left the full scan running. And.

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So aye, he was a clueless noob. Not that I'm being nasty, I guess many people don't know how to actually install Windows 10. Well, make the USB stick etc.

So it's cost me £0 to repair, so a total cost of £85. I guess my 500gb took a knock at some point and was dead. Oh well, smashed it with a hammer and threw it away.

All I need to do now is basically split the HDD power so I can run the SSD in there too at the same time. And I am done.

Very, very happy. Welcome to the family little one :D
 
Dicehunter said:
All borders shut be closed off, No one in or out.
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You realise completely closing borders would kill more people than you save right.

Also @KingNosser above, its a western perception than people wearing masks are doing it to not spread. I'm reality in China they wear masks precautiously, because the masks DO reduce your risk of infection. The lack of education in Western countries on this topic is something we have to catch up on pronto if we want to get anywhere near China's level of control to stop this spreading elsewhere.
 
NeverBackDown said:
That's an extreme response to something that is not entirely understood and the vast majority of the world population are at very low risk from. You been reading to much local news bud. Be alert, not anxious.
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Oh I'm not running around screaming with anxiety, But I do understand people and a lot of people are utterly clueless.

When I was 18 I did 8 weeks work in a hospital as a general helper as my uncle is a doctor and works in various hospitals all over Europe and the hospital he was working at was quite short handed on general staff i.e people carrying supplies from point A to point B, Rolling people to the correct rooms etc... and in a hospital you get to see that a lot of people are really "Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh" don't get me wrong you also meet a lot of wonderful people but so many people are utterly clueless and have zero common sense and knowing that and what a lot of people who I personally know who are doctors have said about this outbreak, Closing borders would be the safest thing to do until everything is under control because people will innocently forget about various things and unknowingly spread it.
 
Dicehunter said:
Oh I'm not running around screaming with anxiety, But I do understand people and a lot of people are utterly clueless.

When I was 18 I did 8 weeks work in a hospital as a general helper as my uncle is a doctor and works in various hospitals all over Europe and the hospital he was working at was quite short handed on general staff i.e people carrying supplies from point A to point B, Rolling people to the correct rooms etc... and in a hospital you get to see that a lot of people are really "Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh" don't get me wrong you also meet a lot of wonderful people but so many people are utterly clueless and have zero common sense and knowing that and what a lot of people who I personally know who are doctors have said about this outbreak, Closing borders would be the safest thing to do until everything is under control because people will innocently forget about various things and unknowingly spread it.
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The nature of coronavirus(Its timeline of symptoms) means a reactionary lockdown would always be too late, and a lockdown in Italy/Europe wouldn't have helped one bit. Testing shows the strain of Coronavirus in Italy is genetically distinct from the strain originating from China, and must have been circulating in Italy for many weeks if not months before Italian authorities had even detected anything, indeed the greatest danger for Europe from this virus is coming from the failure of a European health authority at the most basic stage, diagnosis.

Plus, locking down borders is an incredibly dangerous thing to do, data shows even partially closing borders almost always results in preventable deaths, but a complete lock down would also inhibit things like the transfer of items like translpantable organs, that often need transporting by an individual via JIT commercial flights, and also any JIT medicines, with insulin being the most widely required.
 
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tgrech said:
The nature of coronavirus(Its timeline of symptoms) means a reactionary lockdown would always be too late, and a lockdown in Italy/Europe wouldn't have helped one bit. Testing shows the strain of Coronavirus in Italy is genetically distinct from the strain originating from China, and must have been circulating in Italy for many weeks if not months before Italian authorities had even detected anything, indeed the greatest danger for Europe from this virus is coming from the failure of a European health authority at the most basic stage, diagnosis.

Plus, locking down borders is an incredibly dangerous thing to do, data shows even partially closing borders almost always results in preventable deaths, but a complete lock down would also inhibit things like the transfer of items like translpantable organs, that often need transporting by an individual via JIT commercial flights, and also any JIT medicines, with insulin being the most widely required.
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I'm not talking of a shutdown of borders that prohibits transportation of medical supplies but rather people in general, There's that common sense issue I spoke of before.... No one NEEDS to go on holiday, That's one of the main issues, People coming back from different places who have the virus or people wanting to go on holiday to different places, It's all these risks people are taking.
 
Dicehunter said:
I'm not talking of a shutdown of borders that prohibits transportation of medical supplies but rather people in general, There's that common sense issue I spoke of before.... No one NEEDS to go on holiday, That's one of the main issues, People coming back from different places who have the virus or people wanting to go on holiday to different places, It's all these risks people are taking.
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I NEED to go on holiday with the amount of I deal with at work but then I'm content to sit at home and relax on holiday :D
 
Dicehunter said:
I'm not talking of a shutdown of borders that prohibits transportation of medical supplies but rather people in general, There's that common sense issue I spoke of before.... No one NEEDS to go on holiday, That's one of the main issues, People coming back from different places who have the virus or people wanting to go on holiday to different places, It's all these risks people are taking.
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But by the time we'd even detected a meaningful number of cases regarding the virus, it seems to have been circulating here unnoticed for weeks, that is the issue; it can seemingly transfer easily between people without any symptoms at all or nothing to distinguish it from a cold or flu, and we already have several cases now of people contracting the virus in the UK who had not been abroad recently and don't know anyone who has.

Closing borders now would be significantly less effective than the current approach of just testing people on the borders and quarantining people coming from affected areas. You would create absolute chaos by flat out blocking people attempting to return home from these areas, almost always returning from visiting family or carrying out work, as you'd just force many of these people into crammed hotels or airport floors and create an environment rife for the virus to spread further, while also adding more demand to already overstrained healthcare systems and restricting peoples ability to access their home countries healthcare system.
 
Apple mastermind & engineer Steve Wozniak thinks he may be patient zero in the US, but private healthcare systems reeaaaalllyyy aren't built for pandemics(Or any kind of natural disaster for that matter); He can't even get access to testing

https://twitter.com/stevewoz/status/1234575727678435328

https://twitter.com/stevewoz/status/1234887637845983233

Since most countries have only really become aware of their coronavirus spread once they start testing everyone with symptoms of flu(Because of the virus' covert nature), this could be the start of quite a long battle for the US.
 
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tgrech said:
Apple mastermind & engineer Steve Wozniak thinks he may be patient zero in the US, but private healthcare systems reeaaaalllyyy aren't built for pandemics(Or any kind of natural disaster for that matter); He can't even get access to testing

https://twitter.com/stevewoz/status/1234575727678435328

https://twitter.com/stevewoz/status/1234887637845983233

Since most countries have only really become aware of their coronavirus spread once they start testing everyone with symptoms of flu(Because of the virus' covert nature), this could be the start of quite a long battle for the US.
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I just saw the idiocy of the US super markets being raided and stripped of commercial goods and provisions.

It honestly feels like the game Division has become reality
 
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