Requesting some assistance with a new build / liquid cool set up

[ScottyPimpin]

I'd like to first introduce myself because this is my first post on the forum, /wave.

I'm looking to do some heavy OCing so here we go. I've spent a lot of time reading guides on here and random posts to get a good idea about liquid cooling since this will be my first time putting water in my tower I've looked at many reviews online for a lot of different parts so here goes my build that I'm looking at.

New Parts:

case - MM U2-UFO

cpu - Phenom II 955

mobo - MSI 790FX-GD70

ram - Corsair Dominator 4GB DDR3 1600

2 video cards - 4890 1GB crossfire

Re Using These:

psu - Ultra X-3 1000w

hdd - 150gb Raptor

liquid cool parts:

cpu block - Swiftech Apogee GTZ with AM2 adapter (sold on frozencpu)

gpu block - XSPC Razor Full cover

Need help choosing the following:

1. Tripple Radiator & fans

2. Pump sufficient enough for all 3 blocks in a single loop.

3. Reservoir, I've seen a couple different styles. can anyone tell me the pros and cons of using the cylinder reservoir over the bay reservoir?

I think that covers just about all of it as far as parts go. If i'm missing anything or anyone has suggestions to change something please feel free to voice your opinion. If you could give a reason why it would be much appreciated.

As far as the loop goes i'm planning on

pump > rad > cpu > vga > vga > res > back to pump.

Let me know what you guys and gals think!

 

[Freak]

Your ram, its ddr3 so just like in the way that ddr2 you need multiples of 3 to get it to work in tri channel.

 

[nepas]

Your ram, its ddr3 so just like in the way that ddr2 you need multiples of 3 to get it to work in tri channel.

errr he's building a AMD rig not i7

 

[theelusiveyoda]

i recommend thermochill rads they are a lot beefier than most of the other rads like the stealth, but the only problem is a 360rad can cost around 50 - 60 by itself

 

[tinytomlogan]

Thermo's are cheapest performance rads available, and the best bit is they are the best aswell. Thermochills beat any other 360mm rad on the market and you can use low speed fans too. Anything cheaper than £60 for a 360mm rad DONT buy. Just make sure you get the right spacings for your case.

Also buy a ddc ultra / Swiftech MCP355 - same pump.= different labels.

 

[ScottyPimpin]

Thermo's are cheapest performance rads available, and the best bit is they are the best aswell. Thermochills beat any other 360mm rad on the market and you can use low speed fans too. Anything cheaper than £60 for a 360mm rad DONT buy. Just make sure you get the right spacings for your case.

Also buy a ddc ultra / Swiftech MCP355 - same pump.= different lables.

I'll look in to Thermochill for sure then, sounds like a winner! When you say low speed fans I take it you mean low CFM as well? About what CFM should I be looking for?

 

[tinytomlogan]

Just get some decent fans mate, stick with a good brand. Yate Loons are always a good start for low £££

 

[theelusiveyoda]

the best fans in terms of quitness are noctua's but they cost a pretty penny but they are dead silent, the best ones i've had recently are the xilence red wings you can get about 3 for the price of one noctua, they push quite a lot of air and are pretty quite and you really want higher cfm fans, a higher cfm means more air moved

 

[tinytomlogan]

Loons will pwn a yate yoda, xilence are quiet cos they dont move that much air, yates will move more air at the same Db rating.

 

[Ghosthud1]

Yate loons

• Model: D12SL-12

• Color: Black

• Dimensions: 120 x 120 x 25 mm

• Operating Temp: -10 - 65°C

• Normal Voltage: 12 V

• Rated Speed: 1350RPM (12V)

• Airflow: 47CFM (12V)

• Noise: Approx. 28 dB(A) (12V)

Xilence red wings

• Color: Red/Black

• Dimensions: 120 x 120 x 25 mm

• Starting Voltage: 7 VDC

• Normal Voltage: 10,8 - 13,2 VDC

• Rated Current: 0,09A ±10% (max)

• Power Input: 1.08 W

• Rated Speed: 1500 rpm ± 10% (max)(12V)

• Airflow: 57,91 CFM (12V)

• Noise: Approx. 21.2 dB(A) (12V)

• Connector:: Small 4Pin PWM

• Bearing: Hydro Bearing

• Weight: 175 g

• Approvals: CE

• Warranty: 2 Years (www.xilence-lab.de)

• Lead length: ~350 mm

looks like the xilence fans push more air is this true?

 

[theelusiveyoda]

ive never had yate loons so i dont know and not all fans live up to the specs

 

[tinytomlogan]

Ghosty... do yates only make 1 type of fan then?

Xilence dont push as much cfm as they say they do, Ive got both here and the lowest spec yates deffo push more air than the xilence

 

[PeterStoba]

In my experience, red wings are louder than low speed yates

 

[nepas]

iirc those redwings have been proven to have false specs with regards to the noise level,as far as I am concerned you can't beat the high speed Loons

 

[Ghosthud1]

can anyone link me too buy some LED yates please

 

[rapidman17]

Well the scythe ultra kaze 2000/3000 are spose to be pretty good.....

 

[tinytomlogan]

WCUK sell led yates mate, you can run them easily at 12v too

 

[ScottyPimpin]

So all of this debate about highspeed fans and low speed fans. If i'm water cooling my cpu and both gpu wouldn't that eliminate the majority of the heat in my case?

Some parts of my motherboard will still produce heat, north bridge, south bridge and I have 2 hard drives..... are high CFM fans really necessary? I'd like to find a fan that is 20db or less if possible to keep things very quiet. If I have to i'll invest in a fan controller turn them down a little bit.

What CFM should I be looking for in the fans attached to my Radiator?

 

[tinytomlogan]

No mate, the heat is transfered to the water, you then need the fans to cool the rad/water down. Water is cooler and quieter, but you still need to choose the right kit.

 

[ScottyPimpin]

No mate, the heat is transfered to the water, you then need the fans to cool the rad/water down. Water is cooler and quieter, but you still need to choose the right kit.

I know I need some good fans on the rad itself. I'm getting a tripple 120mm rad for that reason. The case holds 4 other 120mm fans and that's what I was talking about. No need for high cfm fans for the other 4 right? just quiet lower cfm fans to keep the air moving.