Radeon HD 4870 X2 R700 Reportedly Beats GeForce GTX 280

Well to be honest, I'd hope that the new dual core card would beat out the single core GTX 280. Just remains to be seen whether Nvidia plan on a GX2 280 or something. Probably be a bit hot to make one of them.
 
Well seeing as a single 4870 was ment to compete with a 9800GTX (or so a few sites have been saying), which as we know is basically an 8800GTS, and the 9800GX2 is 2 8800GTSs, I find it hard to believe that 2 4780ds will top nVidias new flagship, plus the fact the GTX 280 is ment to be MUCH better than the 9800GX2. Still be nice to see ATi take the lead but I dont see it happening, yet
 
Tbh though its 3dmark. It woudln't surprise me if ATi beat nvidia in 3dmark. Real games expirience is a completly different thing though.
 
I've just shoved my 3870x2's up on ebay. Not sure if it was a good idea or not, but it does look like a pair of 4870's will wipe the floor with my x2 setup, so I'm happy i guess :\
 
1 thing i don't get though, why the review linked above does not include 260/280 in sli mode as they have run the 4870 in crossfire. Not really a good comparison 2x4870 against 1x280 really. Or taking it to the extreme, tri sli.
 
name='doug2507' said:
1 thing i don't get though, why the review linked above does not include 260/280 in sli mode as they have run the 4870 in crossfire. Not really a good comparison 2x4870 against 1x280 really. Or taking it to the extreme, tri sli.

Unfortunately for nvidia it is because 2x 4870 are still cheaper then a single GTX280.

I think once some better drivers are revised just like all ATI cards recently performance will just go up... crossfire scaling at higher res looks ot be amazing though :D

At the moment though, 2x 4850 seems to be where its at, seeing as though its only slightly more than a single 4870 and beats out a GTX280.
 
If they've tested 2 4870's together then they should do the same with the 280 to give a direct comparision.. They're both flagship models and should be compared on a similar level. It should be done regardless of how much a card costs, IMO. Sure somebody will do a review soon....
 
All good reviews take into account the cost of the card, it's like comparing a Vauxhall Astra with a Lamborghini Gallardo and saying "well the Lamborghini is the better vehicle, despite costing 10x as much we're happy to say it will serve the average paycheck earning driver much better tha the Astra."

There would be little point comparing SLi GTX280/260 to Xfire 4870's because if the 4870's are snapping at the heel of one card [but not beating it outright] then they are obviously not going to magically beat two- it's a result which has already been decided.

I applaud OC3D for taking time to work out the £ per Frame, as their own take on Bang 4 Buck, because it's what [the majority of] people really want to know.
 
name='Kerotan' said:
All good reviews take into account the cost of the card, it's like comparing a Vauxhall Astra with a Lamborghini Gallardo and saying "well the Lamborghini is the better vehicle, despite costing 10x as much we're happy to say it will serve the average paycheck earning driver much better tha the Astra."

There would be little point comparing SLi GTX280/260 to Xfire 4870's because if the 4870's are snapping at the heel of one card [but not beating it outright] then they are obviously not going to magically beat two- it's a result which has already been decided.

I applaud OC3D for taking time to work out the £ per Frame, as their own take on Bang 4 Buck, because it's what [the majority of] people really want to know.

Its like comparing a subaru with an evo. Both are contenders for the same crown. Just incase there's crossed wires here, the review i am talking about is the techreport one linked on page one. Read that and you should see where i'm coming from. Nothing to do with any OC3D review, which btw, i factor into the majority, if not all, of my desicions when buying.
 
Ah sorry mate fair dues- had a quick glance at the article, never really used that site before but I think it's true that for a single GPU it's performing really well, but there should be some SLi results for the GTX200 cards thrown in to see how both multi-card setups scale. And totally agree on OC3D reviews, I tend to look round a few sites but I always feel that OC3D reviews come across as being written by real people not that corporate guff you get from some sites. I reckon that the NV cards will ultimately fair better in the future, cos they score really well in Vantage and do have the most powerful performance, but right now it's just a win-win for the consumer, cos both companies are fighting hard to offer pretty equal performance at similar price-points in the £125-£200 mark.
 
name='doug2507' said:
Its like comparing a subaru with an evo. Both are contenders for the same crown. Just incase there's crossed wires here, the review i am talking about is the techreport one linked on page one. Read that and you should see where i'm coming from. Nothing to do with any OC3D review, which btw, i factor into the majority, if not all, of my desicions when buying.

Honestly, I don't really agree with you. They are not supposed to be in the same class. They never were supposed to be. We have yet to see AMD's flagship, which is the X2. It's obvious the the 4870 and 280 are not in the same class based on price. AMD decided to hit the more mid-range market before going for the true performance. Granted, I do agree that it would have been nice to see SLI results just to have them, but not as a direct comparison to the 4870 Crossfire
 
name='WC Annihilus' said:
Honestly, I don't really agree with you. They are not supposed to be in the same class. They never were supposed to be. We have yet to see AMD's flagship, which is the X2. It's obvious the the 4870 and 280 are not in the same class based on price. AMD decided to hit the more mid-range market before going for the true performance. Granted, I do agree that it would have been nice to see SLI results just to have them, but not as a direct comparison to the 4870 Crossfire

With the X2 being a dual, would it not be fair to say that the 4870 is in the same bracket as the 280? 'If' Nvidia bring out a GX2 of the 280 then should that not be compared to the X2 with both being dual's?
 
4870 - 280

4850 - 260

x2 - gx2

3870 - 9800gtx

3850 - dont care tbh

meh it`s loose. But single cards to single cards, x2 to x2.

People who don`t mind either camp should work off price imo.
 
name='doug2507' said:
With the X2 being a dual, would it not be fair to say that the 4870 is in the same bracket as the 280? 'If' Nvidia bring out a GX2 of the 280 then should that not be compared to the X2 with both being dual's?

Personally I don't think so, but meh, people have different opinions
 
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