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[TheF34RChannel]

GeForce GTX Volta cards will use GDDR5X instead of HBM2

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/upcoming-geforce-gtx-cards-use-gddr5x-not-hbm2.html

 

[Dicehunter]

GeForce GTX Volta cards will use GDDR5X instead of HBM2

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/upcoming-geforce-gtx-cards-use-gddr5x-not-hbm2.html

Would make sense to use a refined GDDR5X rather than HBM2, Even on the 1080 Ti you can overclock the memory to give you a bandwidth of 528GB/s, If HBM2 in general only does 480GB/s and costs much more it makes no sense to use it.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Would make sense to use a refined GDDR5X rather than HBM2, Even on the 1080 Ti you can overclocked the memory to give you a bandwidth of 528GB/s, If HBM2 in general only does 480GB/s and costs much more it makes no sense to use it.

Absolutely! As long as it works I'm good.

Intel Core i9-7900X (Skylake-X) Review

https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2017/06/16/intel-core-i9-7900x-and-x299-chipset-revie/1

 

[Dicehunter]

Intel Core i9-7900X (Skylake-X) Review

https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2017/06/16/intel-core-i9-7900x-and-x299-chipset-revie/1

Little bit odd that they stuck the 1800X in there which is under half the price of the 7900.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Little bit odd that they stuck the 1800X in there which is under half the price of the 7900.

For the lack of TR, they say.

Another:

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/107017-intel-core-i9-7900x-14nm-skylake-x/

 

[AlienALX]

Little bit odd that they stuck the 1800X in there which is under half the price of the 7900.

Why is it odd? I mean it's an 8c 16t chip.

This is an impressive CPU from Intel but the price is lol. For less than 1/3 of that you can get a 1700.

8 cores ATM yes please. More than that? yeah, could take a while for those to be used.

 

[WYP]

Hmm, it seems that Bit-Tech and Hexus have broken NDA. Pretty crappy of them TBH, throwing the guidelines that are in place to promote fairness within the industry away in order to get some quick fame and ad revenue.

There will be a lot of angry reviewers right now who will no doubt be infuriated that they still need to keep NDA while other sites are doing this.

Both websites are owned by the same guy BTW.

While a lot of people will be happy to see these results early, it must be remembered that Hexus and Bit-tech have effectively destroyed the level playing field that product reviews like this usually have, which is hugely damaging to smaller sites.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

GeForce GTX Volta cards will use GDDR5X instead of HBM2

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/upcoming-geforce-gtx-cards-use-gddr5x-not-hbm2.html

Makes sense. It's clear that Nvidia don't need the most advanced memory to make epic GPU's. If they use more affordable technology maybe Volta will actually be more accessible.

Hmm, it seems that Bit-Tech and Hexus have broken NDA. Pretty crappy of them TBH, throwing the guidelines that are in place to promote fairness within the industry away in order to get some quick fame and ad revenue.

There will be a lot of angry reviewers right now who will no doubt be infuriated that they still need to keep NDA while other sites are doing this.

Both websites are owned by the same guy BTW.

While a lot of people will be happy to see these results early, it must be remembered that Hexus and Bit-tech have effectively destroyed the level playing field that product reviews like this usually have, which is hugely damaging to smaller sites.

Does it make any difference that Bit-Tech says they weren't supplied the chip by Intel?

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Hmm, it seems that Bit-Tech and Hexus have broken NDA. Pretty crappy of them TBH, throwing the guidelines that are in place to promote fairness within the industry away in order to get some quick fame and ad revenue.

There will be a lot of angry reviewers right now who will no doubt be infuriated that they still need to keep NDA while other sites are doing this.

Both websites are owned by the same guy BTW.

While a lot of people will be happy to see these results early, it must be remembered that Hexus and Bit-tech have effectively destroyed the level playing field that product reviews like this usually have, which is hugely damaging to smaller sites.

Agreed!!

 

[Bartacus]

Oooh, didn't even notice that. Maybe they thought it was the 16th instead of the 19th? Because a 6 is an upside-down 9?

 

[WYP]

Does it make any difference that Bit-Tech says they weren't supplied the chip by Intel?

It is very common to be supplied a chip by powers outside of Intel, usually motherboard vendors or retailers, but that still does not undo the fact that they have broken embargo.

They can claim that they have not signed one, but the motherboard vendor whose product they used certainly did. They are attempting to skirt the rules of the Intel embargo, but it is nonetheless broken.

Regardless they knew when the embargo was and both sites posted at the same time so that both can gain, making this seem like more of a calculated strategy rather than a management screw up.

The whole point of a review embargo is to give enough time for people to review without rushing and to prevent smaller sites from being steamrolled by larger enterprises that have more staff to dish out a full review early. The review embargo is designed to promote fairness, which is thrown out the window when sites break it.

 

[Dicehunter]

For the lack of TR, they say.

Makes sense I suppose.

Why is it odd? I mean it's an 8c 16t chip.

This is an impressive CPU from Intel but the price is lol. For less than 1/3 of that you can get a 1700.

8 cores ATM yes please. More than that? yeah, could take a while for those to be used.

Just thought it was weird comparing 2 completely different platforms with some very huge price differences but as The F34R Channel was due to lack of TR.

 

[AlienALX]

Platform is irrelevant IMO. They could have easily released a 12 core or more on X99. They've chosen to release this CPU on X299 but at the end of the day comparing a CPU is comparing it to another CPU.

X370 might not have the bells and whistles X299 does but that doesn't matter, it's all about the CPU performance.

It will definitely be interesting when TR hits the shelves though. Far more AMD products to throw into the mix

It is very common to be supplied a chip by powers outside of Intel, usually motherboard vendors or retailers, but that still does not undo the fact that they have broken embargo.

They can claim that they have not signed one, but the motherboard vendor whose product they used certainly did. They are attempting to skirt the rules of the Intel embargo, but it is nonetheless broken.

Regardless they knew when the embargo was and both sites posted at the same time so that both can gain, making this seem like more of a calculated strategy rather than a management screw up.

The whole point of a review embargo is to give enough time for people to review without rushing and to prevent smaller sites from being steamrolled by larger enterprises that have more staff to dish out a full review early. The review embargo is designed to promote fairness, which is thrown out the window when sites break it.

If you are not under NDA then it doesn't matter does it? what if I got my hands on a 7900x or whatever it's called? should I have to sit here silent?

I will keep my ears to the ground but I don't think they would break any agreements.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

It is very common to be supplied a chip by powers outside of Intel, usually motherboard vendors or retailers, but that still does not undo the fact that they have broken embargo.

They can claim that they have not signed one, but the motherboard vendor whose product they used certainly did. They are attempting to skirt the rules of the Intel embargo, but it is nonetheless broken.

Regardless they knew when the embargo was and both sites posted at the same time so that both can gain, making this seem like more of a calculated strategy rather than a management screw up.

The whole point of a review embargo is to give enough time for people to review without rushing and to prevent smaller sites from being steamrolled by larger enterprises that have more staff to dish out a full review early. The review embargo is designed to promote fairness, which is thrown out the window when sites break it.

I understand. I agree that even if no NDA was signed, as a mark of respect and togetherness with the community, I would hold off on publishing the article.

 

[AlienALX]

I understand. I agree that even if no NDA was signed, as a mark of respect and togetherness with the community, I would hold off on publishing the article.

Oh come on man seriously? these websites are all about the exclusives. Always were and always will be.

 

[mb67]

Oh come on man seriously? these websites are all about the exclusives. Always were and always will be.

That still doesn't make it right, or justified.

Just my opinion of course.

 

[AlienALX]

That still doesn't make it right, or justified.

Just my opinion of course.

Is that enough exclusives to convince you?

As I said, with these websites it's all about getting something first. Kinda like the press. And having it first means more attention/hits which means you will do better than some one without them.

I'm not having a go at any one here (especially Tom, even though it seems like it) I am just telling you how it is. Tom will take any exclusive he can get as will any journalist. And that is 90% of Tom's job.

 

[mb67]

Is that enough exclusives to convince you?

As I said, with these websites it's all about getting something first. Kinda like the press. And having it first means more attention/hits which means you will do better than some one without them.

I'm not having a go at any one here (especially Tom, even though it seems like it) I am just telling you how it is. Tom will take any exclusive he can get as will any journalist. And that is 90% of Tom's job.

8min 41sec Kind of says it best.

https://youtu.be/zImCZHfDq5s?t=8m41s

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Oh come on man seriously? these websites are all about the exclusives. Always were and always will be.

As a mark of respect and togetherness with the community, I would hold off on publishing the article.

Emphasis on 'I would'.

I'm not on this forum to praise Tom blindly. I don't know the guy and I don't trust him without conditions. If Tom has ever taken the liberty to post 'exclusives' as they are titled in his videos then that's his decision. I simply said that if it caused division within the community or hurt others, I WOULD not do it.

 

[AlienALX]

Emphasis on 'I would'.

I'm not on this forum to praise Tom blindly. I don't know the guy and I don't trust him without conditions. If Tom has ever taken the liberty to post 'exclusives' as they are titled in his videos then that's his decision. I simply said that if it caused division within the community or hurt others, I WOULD not do it.

Well it's pretty obvious how highly I regard Tom. I am only a member of two computer forums and this is one of them.

The only reason it has really caused division is because other reviewers are upset that the review has gone out first. That's basically it, isn't it? I mean at the end of the day that is what they are complaining about yes? (and yes, I watched the Linus video whilst soldering my amp). Whether B-T or Hexus have broken NDA is none of their business because that's their lookout surely?

And if the other company did not sign an NDA and thus one does not exist who cares?

I mean let's face it yeah, NDAs are there because of stuff like this. And I've seen Tom literally waiting on the hour to the dot to post a review.

Edit. And now for some humour. The CPU is ridiculous any way. A bag of sand for 20% more than a Ryzen 1700. That's basically what it equates to, crap PCIE lanes and all.

Edit again. OK so look, this single sentence from a user on another forum pretty much sums it up.

So its because Intel are a bunch of (penises, word replaced) who discriminate against the media in Europe.

So yeah, basically blame Intel.