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[AngryGoldfish]

So why does Kaby Lake X exist? I thought the main draw was that you could buy a €250 motherboard, a €350 CPU, then upgrade two years later to a €600 CPU without changing motherboards. This just confuses things further. Intel must be hungry right about now, because they're high.

Anyone seen this yet? Volta might not come to Geforce, either ever or not for a long time. It makes sense as Pascal is clearly an excellent architecture and the process of shrinking the die down and increases the clock speeds seems to work.

http://fudzilla.com/news/graphics/43962-new-geforce-will-be-incremental

 

[AlienALX]

So why does Kaby Lake X exist? I thought the main draw was that you could buy a €250 motherboard, a €350 CPU, then upgrade two years later to a €600 CPU without changing motherboards. This just confuses things further. Intel must be hungry right about now, because they're high.

Because 5ghz I reckons. I think they will come 5ghz stock. Just a carrot from Intel, nothing to see here etc.

They could, in the very least, call these boards X199 and point out they are derped down high end boards to consumer level. They wont, though.

They're deluded, as you rightly point out. They really think people are going to buy a quad core on a derped down HEDT motherboard.

Anyone seen this yet? Volta might not come to Geforce, either ever or not for a long time. It makes sense as Pascal is clearly an excellent architecture and the process of shrinking the die down and increases the clock speeds seems to work.

http://fudzilla.com/news/graphics/43962-new-geforce-will-be-incremental

I reckon they have bought themselves a Frontier and had a play with it. Then realised that it's miles behind Pascal, so can literally freeze operations and release tiny updates like Intel. Only problem is there is no Ryzen GPU coming and that means that it could be pretty much permanent if Vega flops and AMD call GPUs a day.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Because 5ghz I reckons. I think they will come 5ghz stock. Just a carrot from Intel, nothing to see here etc.

They could, in the very least, call these boards X199 and point out they are derped down high end boards to consumer level. They wont, though.

They're deluded, as you rightly point out. They really think people are going to buy a quad core on a derped down HEDT motherboard.



I reckon they have bought themselves a Frontier and had a play with it. Then realised that it's miles behind Pascal, so can literally freeze operations and release tiny updates like Intel. Only problem is there is no Ryzen GPU coming and that means that it could be pretty much permanent if Vega flops and AMD call GPUs a day.

While 5Ghz is a big selling point, it's still going to be prohibitive for most users. Hopefully reviewers will pick up on this and drive the point home. I know Tom has in his 7820X review where 5Ghz was possible but at crazy high temperatures and power consumption. That's what I want to see, not what professional overclockers say. They are the absolute niche who sometimes act rather delusional. The LN2 market and extreme water cooling market is absolutely minuscule.

Yeah, I don't think Nvidia will have to worry about Vega beating big Pascal. All they to do is knock a few quid off the prices of their current lineup and they'll be golden. Then for the Nvidia fans who want a new GPU they'll release a 1180 or 1081 (that would be a cool twist on the nomenclature) and 1080's will start hitting fleabay by the thousands.

 

[AlienALX]

Well seems I was wrong on the 5ghz front. It seems that instead they have just basically worked out a way to cut off the IGP and save money, and then charge this much for an I5.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ocket-lga2066-processor-retail-cp-63b-in.html

£30 more than a Ryzen 1600. LOL.

 

[Dark NighT]

Well seems I was wrong on the 5ghz front. It seems that instead they have just basically worked out a way to cut off the IGP and save money, and then charge this much for an I5.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ocket-lga2066-processor-retail-cp-63b-in.html

£30 more than a Ryzen 1600. LOL.

Intel, seriously charging that much for just a 4 core and no ht, no one in their right mind should buy this.

 

[Korreborg]

Maybe its because i'm strictly a gamer i see it in another way. A 230£ CPU that POTENTIALLY can hit 5Ghz+ it will probably do better in games.

But as long there really isn't any mATX boards, i think many wont go that way. I'm a 1 GFX guy. ATX is soo last decade to me
Currently upgrading my case/cooling

 

[Dark NighT]

Maybe its because i'm strictly a gamer i see it in another way. A 230£ CPU that POTENTIALLY can hit 5Ghz+ it will probably do better in games.

But as long there really isn't any mATX boards, i think many wont go that way. I'm a 1 GFX guy. ATX is soo last decade to me
Currently upgrading my case/cooling

Hehe nice!

Also most modern games max out a i5 to 100% regardless of frequency, yes they can still do 60fps+ but their days are numbered.

 

[AlienALX]

Maybe its because i'm strictly a gamer i see it in another way. A 230£ CPU that POTENTIALLY can hit 5Ghz+ it will probably do better in games.

To maintain 24/7 5ghz it will need a delid like all of the others. And know what? even at 5ghz in anything even remotely threaded it will get its arse handed to it on a platter by the Ryzen 1600 which costs £201 as I type this (Amazon).

B350 Strix board - £118.
X299 cheapest board - £230.

Intel must have studied at LOLage college.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble

CIG, the creators of Star Citizen, a game that has pulled in $150 million in crowdfunding, many times the original goal of $6 million, has applied for additional loan funding from a bank, in return offering up literally everything they own as collateral - the Star Citizen IP, all assets, all code, distribution rights and so on. From the attached PDF:

https://m.imgur.com/NrDAsjG

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08703814/charges/AHMo7d0tVN50wGM-FC6tbyhYlss

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08815227/filing history

 

[Damien c]

Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble



https://m.imgur.com/NrDAsjG

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08703814/charges/AHMo7d0tVN50wGM-FC6tbyhYlss

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08815227/filing history

I seem to remember seeing somewhere that the owner of Star Citizen, spent a nice chunk of the money on "Car's, Boat's, Houses and long drunken holiday's" but maybe someone who has more knowledge can confirm if that is true or not, as if it is that would put me off investing any large amount of money in the game, since you wouldn't know 100% if all the money went where it should or not.

After having tried the game and it being a complete mess and fully unplayable for me, I honestly cannot understand why people put massive amounts of time or money in to it, that was and has been raised.

For me not being able to use the options in game, such as access a terminal or even be able to fire weapons on a ship, without it crashing or just not registering button presses, over about the last 4 or 5 patches just makes me wonder what they are doing over there.

Then there was the performance roughly 35% GPU usage IIRC at 4K maxed out and not able to go above 30fps is shocking even for an alpha.

Honestly I see Star Citizen as the game that will never be released, because they are always wanting to add stuff to it instead, of getting the base game out there and working and then adding the stuff later down the line.

I mean Frontier are hardly the world's best developers but they have got all the stuff in the Elite Dangerous iirc that they put, on Kickstarter and have been adding since then but they are slow with it and lack any form of decent communication, and they did it on a much smaller budget than the one Star Citizen has had.


From the trailers I have seen from Star Citizen it looks like it could be a really good game and probably the best of the type of games in sits in, but since I reckon it will be like Duke Nukem Forever, I will be sticking to Elite Dangerous.

 

[Dark NighT]

Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble



https://m.imgur.com/NrDAsjG

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08703814/charges/AHMo7d0tVN50wGM-FC6tbyhYlss

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08815227/filing history

Did a quick search, found this.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/...hread/re-uk-tax-rebate-advance-for-foundry-42

 

[NeverBackDown]

Did a quick search, found this.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/...hread/re-uk-tax-rebate-advance-for-foundry-42

Yeah I had a feeling it was something related to money management since the economy in general seems to be really sensitive today, although less so since Brexit happened.
I do think they should be required to tell there backers these things, as they are investors, however I don't think they should have to be open about every micro detail of there business for a couple obvious reasons, but alas their hand was forced due to all the clickbait articles out there. Gotta love journalism

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Did a quick search, found this.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/...hread/re-uk-tax-rebate-advance-for-foundry-42

A lot of face saving bs. They wasted 150 million (disgusting!!) already, an obscene amount when I think of hungry families in name what third world country you like. I didn't wanted to make this post until I saw their reaction.
I love the idea of SC, however I don't think it'll ever come out as its own ambitions are cannibalising it. They could have released a finished game already, if they cut the bs (a magazine, citizen con etc.). Instead there's a handful of alpha state loose modules, and ask people hundreds for ship drawings that may or may not come out; they have no idea what they're doing.
I'll buy it if it'll ever finish and I like what it is, but I will not and cannot back this, this, whatever this is. Pledge = best scam ever!

 

[Dark NighT]

A lot of face saving bs. They wasted 150 million (disgusting!!) already, an obscene amount when I think of hungry families in name what third world country you like. I didn't wanted to make this post until I saw their reaction.
I love the idea of SC, however I don't think it'll ever come out as its own ambitions are cannibalising it. They could have released a finished game already, if they cut the bs (a magazine, citizen con etc.). Instead there's a handful of alpha state loose modules, and ask people hundreds for ship drawings that may or may not come out; they have no idea what they're doing.
I'll buy it if it'll ever finish and I like what it is, but I will not and cannot back this, this, whatever this is. Pledge = best scam ever!

We don't know how much they really spend but this news has me worried a little bit, i kinda did overspend on that game and i accept that money is gone for good and that development of this takes a long time, but i still have faith in the goal and i think they can pull it off some day when they are finally done tinkering around with the core tech that keeps delaying stuff.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Intel Coffee Lake 6 Core Mainstream CPU Performance Leaked – Rocking Great Single and Multi Core Performance

Intel Coffee Lake 6 Core Mainstream CPU Compared To AMD Ryzen 5 1600X 6 Core Mainstream CPU

"The leak comes straight from MSI where someone decided to keep their internet connection enabled during the benchmark run. The Coffee Lake 6 Core processor scored 4619 points in single-core and 20828 points in multi-core performance tests."

http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-6-core-i7-cpu-performance-benchmark-leak/

https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/3208482

 

[AlienALX]

Ryzen performance improves. Again.

https://community.amd.com/community...-more-performance-updates-for-ryzen-customers

 

[NeverBackDown]

Ryzen performance improves. Again.

https://community.amd.com/community...-more-performance-updates-for-ryzen-customers

Already posted this before and article was on it too...

 

[AlienALX]

Already posted this before and article was on it too...

OK just need it one more time then

 

[tolagarf]

It seems people found some massive Alien bases in Elite: Dangerous and got into them.

The following link is a live stream and might not work later (so check the channel in that case)

 

[TheF34RChannel]

AMD launches Radeon Vega Frontier Edition for $999

"AMD Launches the World’s Fastest Graphics Card for Machine Learning Development and Advanced Visualization Workloads, Radeon Vega Frontier Edition, Available Now"

https://videocardz.com/press-release/amd-launches-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-for-999

Is this what Tesla Volta is to Nvidia?