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Well it's pretty obvious how highly I regard Tom. I am only a member of two computer forums and this is one of them.

The only reason it has really caused division is because other reviewers are upset that the review has gone out first. That's basically it, isn't it? I mean at the end of the day that is what they are complaining about yes? (and yes, I watched the Linus video whilst soldering my amp). Whether B-T or Hexus have broken NDA is none of their business because that's their lookout surely?

And if the other company did not sign an NDA and thus one does not exist who cares?

I mean let's face it yeah, NDAs are there because of stuff like this. And I've seen Tom literally waiting on the hour to the dot to post a review.

Edit. And now for some humour. The CPU is ridiculous any way. A bag of sand for 20% more than a Ryzen 1700. That's basically what it equates to, crap PCIE lanes and all.

Edit again. OK so look, this single sentence from a user on another forum pretty much sums it up.

So its because Intel are a bunch of (penises, word replaced) who discriminate against the media in Europe.

So yeah, basically blame Intel.

It's quite clear some people care. You said it in your comment people may be affected. I'm not that bothered, but I don't know the extent at which this could hurt others. I'm not part of the technology media. I'm a consumer here so all I have to go by is the words of others. That's why I don't blindly distrust Linus and trust TTL. I listen to them all and take them all into consideration. I think Linus gets an earful from the Internet and I don't understand why. But that's for another day.

The 7900X is basically what we thought it was going to be: a chopped down 6950X with higher clock speeds. It's a high performing CPU at a price that's prohibitive to the majority of consumers with features cut off randomly. That's Intel CPU's in a nutshell.
 
It's quite clear some people care. You said it in your comment people may be affected. I'm not that bothered, but I don't know the extent at which this could hurt others. I'm not part of the technology media. I'm a consumer here so all I have to go by is the words of others. That's why I don't blindly distrust Linus and trust TTL. I listen to them all and take them all into consideration. I think Linus gets an earful from the Internet and I don't understand why. But that's for another day.

The 7900X is basically what we thought it was going to be: a chopped down 6950X with higher clock speeds. It's a high performing CPU at a price that's prohibitive to the majority of consumers with features cut off randomly. That's Intel CPU's in a nutshell.

The extent it will hurt others - getting a few less views on Youtube and hits to your website. Maybe.

If you don't break NDA you have nothing to worry about.

TBH watching Linus's face when he was talking about it you could tell he was butthurt.
 
The extent it will hurt others - getting a few less views on Youtube and hits to your website. Maybe.

If you don't break NDA you have nothing to worry about.

TBH watching Linus's face when he was talking about it you could tell he was butthurt.

He did come across as a little bitter, but understandably so. He didn't come across as butthurt though, not to me.
 
Ryzen_vs_Skylake_core_detail_small.jpg


Might be interesting to see and compare.
 
Ryzen_vs_Skylake_core_detail_small.jpg


Might be interesting to see and compare.

Erm, but Epyc does not use a single CPU die. It is four 8-core dies that are interconnected.

There are no real die size comparisons to be made here, apart from the comparison of two single-die products. Even then size of only one of many factors, especially when considering the differences in process node Intel 14nm Tri-Gate VS GloFo 14nm FinFET in terms of both pricing and yields.

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It is a nice graphic, but it is a bit disingenuous to paste AMD 8-core dies shots together and then use it for comparisons to Intel.

In theory, AMD's product will be much cheaper to produce thanks to the higher yields of smaller die products, which will make AMD's Threadripper pricing a huge point of interest. Intel has decreased their prices with X299, but AMD will likely puch things much lower.
 
The extent it will hurt others - getting a few less views on Youtube and hits to your website. Maybe.

If you don't break NDA you have nothing to worry about.

TBH watching Linus's face when he was talking about it you could tell he was butthurt.

Got a link. I need to see this reaction and enjoy its glory.
 
Cannot remember if this has been posted? Not worth its own thread but it makes for some nice quick news.

New GFXBench and SiSoftSandra entries for an CFL-H part:

https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?ben...+with+Coffee+Lake+UHD+Graphics&testgroup=info

http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_r...d5e3daeedeefdcfa88b585a3c6a39eae88fbc6fe&l=en

And of course the CFL-S part:

Genuine Intel(R) CPU 0000 @ 3.10GHz (6C 12T 3.1GHz/4.2GHz, 2.7GHz IMC/3.9GHz, 6x 256kB L2, 12MB L3)

http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_r...d4ecddefd6e5d3f587ba8aacc9ac91a187f4c9f1&l=en
 
G.SKILL Announces New DDR4 Specifications for Intel X299 HEDT Platform, introduces Trident Z black series

G.Skill is excited to announce new high-speed DDR4 memory specifications designed for the latest Intel Core X-series processors and X299 chipset motherboards. All the new memory kits are built with high performance Samsung 8Gb ICs, and tested under the highest standards of the Trident Z family.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/g-skill-announces-new-ddr4-specifications-for-intel-x299-hedt-platform.html

https://www.gskill.com/en/press/vie...-specifications--for-intel-x299-hedt-platform

4400MHz @ C19 is darn impressive!!
 
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Terrific according to.... Nvidia's prices. That doesn't say much.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel/intel-x299-dual-channel-memory

Dear oh dear now I have seen and heard it all !

So apparently they are going to make crappy X299 boards with no quad channel memory etc for Kaby X.

WTF? how can you get a new platform from a new platform?

I wonder if they will explain all of this thoroughly to the dude who buys a £200 board and wonders why it doesn't work properly.
 
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