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[grec]

Well, most of the money and marketshare is sub-£250, high end to most non-enthusiast people is a £300 GPU, Raja knows this better than anyone since this is where GCN was always targeted, Tahiti and Polaris were arguably GCN at its best.

Intel would already have their work cut out for them scaling Gen11 up that far, and we already know the dGPU parts are a kind of jack-of-all-trades arch like Vega, I think it will be positioned as a kind of prosumer card personally.

Even NVidia are taking the approach of big not-so-gaming optimised compute heavy dies now with Turing. Pascal's approach was great for (price or die size)/perf but only for what we currently/used to consider traditional graphics pipelines, leaving more of the optimisation to the software side of things like with GCN/Turing is exactly what Intel tried to do with Larrabee(And Itanium) and it's been their approach with CPUs for decades but is only really viable recently with more diverse and optimised and increasingly complex and organic software stacks.

This is why Larrabee was technically the first DX12 card.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

I don't think Intel will aim for the high-end. I would say they need to build a foundation of costumers before jumping aboard the enthusiast-train, and that will mean laptops, midrange semi-custom builds, and budget pre-built systems. AMD already have a hard time converting convincing enthusiasts to buy their products and they've been at it for years. Even if Intel were competitive, I think people will still favour Nvidia or even AMD. But if they start small and work their way up over the period of a decade, I'd say that they could easily be ready to take on the high-end market later in the 2020's.

 

[Warchild]

I don't think Intel will aim for the high-end. I would say they need to build a foundation of costumers before jumping aboard the enthusiast-train, and that will mean laptops, midrange semi-custom builds, and budget pre-built systems. AMD already have a hard time converting convincing enthusiasts to buy their products and they've been at it for years. Even if Intel were competitive, I think people will still favour Nvidia or even AMD. But if they start small and work their way up over the period of a decade, I'd say that they could easily be ready to take on the high-end market later in the 2020's.

Not a dig at you. But it is amusing how many english speaking people on this forum are mixing up customers with costumers.

However you could be right. Build the clientele, get their support and confidence, and then push the R&D up a notch to expand the market segment capitalisation. It does make sense.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Not a dig at you. But it is amusing how many english speaking people on this forum are mixing up customers with costumers.

However you could be right. Build the clientele, get their support and confidence, and then push the R&D up a notch to expand the market segment capitalisation. It does make sense.

Hah! I didn't even notice, but you're right.

 

[Warchild]

EA just laid off 350 people.

Wonder if the poor Anthem sales had an impact on this

https://www.thenerdmag.com/ea-fires-350-people-in-marketing-publishing-and-analytics/

 

[grec]

NVidia takes open source safety framework developed and released by Intel, changes some words, turns into proprietary solution, claims as their own industry first on stage. Intel then blasts both the marketing and the naivety of the implementation in a several page report.

Here's a "summary" article (1) since the report itself (2) or the 8 page comparison table that goes with it are kinda long.

1) https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/288367-intel-blasts-nvidia-for-inferior-self-driving-technology)
2) https://newsroom.intel.com/editorials/innovation-requires-originality/#gs.339i3w

 

[AngryGoldfish]

EA just laid off 350 people.

Wonder if the poor Anthem sales had an impact on this

https://www.thenerdmag.com/ea-fires-350-people-in-marketing-publishing-and-analytics/

For the betterment of the consumer. Ignoring the fact that those 350 workers are also consumers. But hey, us consumers are more important!

 

[NeverBackDown]

EA just laid off 350 people.

Wonder if the poor Anthem sales had an impact on this

https://www.thenerdmag.com/ea-fires-350-people-in-marketing-publishing-and-analytics/

Nothing with Anthem. It's just EA in general is performing subpar. The people leaving are mostly marketing.

 

[g0ggles1994]

EA just laid off 350 people.

Wonder if the poor Anthem sales had an impact on this

https://www.thenerdmag.com/ea-fires-350-people-in-marketing-publishing-and-analytics/

It will be, shareholders aren't happy so the first thing to do? Layoffs and pull out of markets where they have no presence aka Russia and Japan.

NVidia takes open source safety framework developed and released by Intel, changes some words, turns into proprietary solution, claims as their own industry first on stage. Intel then blasts both the marketing and the naivety of the implementation in a several page report.

Here's a "summary" article (1) since the report itself (2) or the 8 page comparison table that goes with it are kinda long.

1) https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/288367-intel-blasts-nvidia-for-inferior-self-driving-technology)
2) https://newsroom.intel.com/editorials/innovation-requires-originality/#gs.339i3w

Now I don't support Intel at the best of times but damn I stand with them on this. I utterly despise Nvidia's unadulterated arrogance beyond anything else. Seriously, I hope they get crushed; whether by AMD or Intel, I don't care.

Read the article now, going to give that editorial a read later.

 

[Warchild]

Nothing with Anthem. It's just EA in general is performing subpar. The people leaving are mostly marketing.

Well that is why I considered putting it down to Anthem. To me, it was marketed very poorly. Firstly, demo hidden behind a preorder. For many of us on forums, we were aware of the poor performing demo, but mainstream users often rely on trailers, and marketting to win them over. Honestly I saw nothing here in Norway, yet Division had billboards everywhere.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Well that is why I considered putting it down to Anthem. To me, it was marketed very poorly. Firstly, demo hidden behind a preorder. For many of us on forums, we were aware of the poor performing demo, but mainstream users often rely on trailers, and marketting to win them over. Honestly I saw nothing here in Norway, yet Division had billboards everywhere.

Well marketing had a lot to do with it and they tell the Devs what players want(apparently they forgot about good performance, or marketing pushed them to release to soon), apparently they got it so very wrong that now marketing is gone^_^

Divsion 2 is a hit. Game is relaxing and fun. I don't have to try hard to do well like I would for Rainbow Six for example.

 

[grec]

The decision was made several months ago, according to employees, so I don't think Anthem could have anything to do with it.

By October employees expected at least major reshuffles to the department after they had stopped hiring and put a freeze on travel for some time before that so it was obvious to them what was going to happen to the department for a while.

 

[Warchild]

Well marketing had a lot to do with it and they tell the Devs what players want(apparently they forgot about good performance, or marketing pushed them to release to soon), apparently they got it so very wrong that now marketing is gone^_^

Divsion 2 is a hit. Game is relaxing and fun. I don't have to try hard to do well like I would for Rainbow Six for example.

Should join Thefearchannel and I for some strongholds. It has got fun yes. Noob me, hit 30 and thought there was nothing more to do until I realised strongholds held story missions.



Saw this over at our friends at Kitguru

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...son/nvidia-rtx-20-series-price-cuts-swoop-in/

Price cuts for the 20xx series cards.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Should join Thefearchannel and I for some strongholds. It has got fun yes. Noob me, hit 30 and thought there was nothing more to do until I realised strongholds held story missions.

I unfortunately have it on PS4. I mean it's unfortunate because it's not PC but it's fortunate because I got it for free. Can't complain^_^
Otherwise I would definitely play with you two. My PC friends all went to PS4 because half the friend group can't afford a decent PC. So I no longer have anyone to play with lol
But tbf I haven't played on my PC consistently since probably last September. Probably only put on 20 hours since then

 

[Warchild]

I unfortunately have it on PS4. I mean it's unfortunate because it's not PC but it's fortunate because I got it for free. Can't complain^_^
Otherwise I would definitely play with you two. My PC friends all went to PS4 because half the friend group can't afford a decent PC. So I no longer have anyone to play with lol
But tbf I haven't played on my PC consistently since probably last September. Probably only put on 20 hours since then

It's probably the best optimised ubisoft release since.. hmm actually it is the best.
No graphical bugs, good fps, good gfx options etc etc. Everything cranked to full and im hitting 75-80fps.

There are stutters, but that seems to be down to hardware and Dx12. I rolled back to Dx 11 and saw no issues anymore.

 

[looz]

Introducing GeForce RTX R.O.N. – World’s First Holographic Gaming Assistant


https://youtu.be/3GZM5a07GgU

 

[grec]

I hate April fools day news lol

 

[looz]

It's not april fools yet so has to be legit, right?

 

[demonking]

Apparent big Intel gpu leak
https://wccftech.com/intel-xe-unleashed-gpu-lineup-leaked-xe-power-2-flagship-graphics-card-roadmap-and-more/

Hopefully true

 

[grec]

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if all 3 vendors actually did have MCM GPUs out in 2021 given how much they've all published openly on the topic over the last 5 years, scaling silicon is increasingly coming at the cost of total die size and that would help break that cycle of low end products being exclusive to new nodes.

NVidia has been pretty open that it's just signalling technology in the way of them making the move, might explain some recent expensive purchases.