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I was the last person to see my Father alive before he died it was a truly horrifying thing to see you parent dying from Lung Cancer :(

Yup, my uncle Rob died of Asbestosis (a form of lung cancer) and from what I heard his final days were anything but pleasant. It was so bad that 3 months before he died he had to walk bent over 45' because the cancer was all in his spine etc so he couldn't stand up straight. He also had to live in a chair. Eat, sleep, crap etc.

Either way he would have gone from lung cancer though. At one point he was smoking 60 Rothmans a day. A feat that I have never quite understood. I mean, how is it even possible? the most I ever done was about 40 and I was absolutely slashed out of my noggin lol.

Yeah, it's not a pretty way to go. Oxygen tanks etc. In some people it can linger on for years too, not just a couple of months.
 
My father died of asbestosis too fella I know what you mean. He got it from working on the railway for 30 years as the Sub Stations had asbestos in them.
 
VAPERS. heads up.

https://www.vapour.com/vapourlites-nato-sub-ohm-tank/

2ml Nato tanks are on sale for £4.99.. But wait, it gets better. Add the code Feb25 and the tank price is £3.74. Ridiculous lol. I've just ordered two, and ten coils, and it cost me just over £20.

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And yes, in circs like this I will post the price because it's insanely cheap lol.
 
lol I did it ! I actually did it !! I made an order from the Nike website and didn't order any trainers :D *pats himself on the back* that's the first time I have managed that :D though I won't lie I did have a pair of Huarache Specials in my cart at the end :D

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My how I have changed lmao.

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The other day I ruined a hoodie (new) and bottoms (new) spilling EC6 all over them. I foolishly thought it would wash out like Mayhem's pastel but nuh uh. Even two treatments with vanish and they still look knackered.

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And a new coat. Shouldn't need it much longer but then hey, £12 for a XXL Airwalk coat is not to be sniffed at so I got it for next winter.

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If you ever order any American vape juice (imported) you will notice that the Americans now reckon it causes cancer (vaping). Even when there is absolutely no proof of this *whatsoever* and no scientific fact behind it. In other words, the cig companies have been leaning on the govt to make vaping not worthwhile, and to keep people smoking (Philip Morris is good for things like this.. Evil b******s.)

D'you know, many people say I am a bit outrageous and should be wearing a tinfoil hat. However, pay very close attention to the last line I wrote the other day.

Philip Morris is good for things like this.. Evil b

http://www.theindependent.sg/new-study-warns-that-vaping-leads-to-cancer/

OK so I literally just read that. Then toward the bottom I saw this..

Philip Morris has said that its goal is to manufacture the first ‘reduced risk’ tobacco product that would be sold in America.

A huge step in the efforts of the tobacco industry as well the government to supply safer alternatives to tobacco would be to obtain FDA approval. Currently, the rate of adult smokers in the US is 15 percent, an all time low. However, smoking is still the number one preventable cause of death and sickness in the nation.


lmfao. And then you realise that I should actually throw away my tinfoil hat because I was bob on. It would not surprise me *at all* if these articles and this research was all funded by Philip Morris to make vaping look dangerous and deadly and then promote their "safer cigarettes".

But I was absolutely spot on. Vaping is hurting the tobacco mfgrs really, really badly and they are concocting this nonsense about vaping. I also found this very interesting in the comments below..

A recent study even found that e-cigarette smokers had 97 percent less lung carcinogens in their body fluids compared to tobacco smokers.

Which of course is true. The mutations that lead to cancer were 97 percent less in vapers than smokers. And lest we not forget, of course, that alcohol also causes these mutations, much does pretty much anything in life these days.

I remember reading this really funny study last year trying to make vaping look dangerous. It said, and I quote "When inhaled the vapour makes the bronchial narrrower" and then a few lines down it said "For about five seconds".

The article was saying that baiscally vaping lead to reduced lung capacity, for about five seconds after inhaling lmao.

IDK man, good old tobacco industry and American govt eh? at least here we now show tobacco products for what they are.
 
The biggest enemy to vaping isn't even the Tobacco industry, sadly. The WHO is pulling out all the stops to paint Vaping and "second-hand Vape" as potentially as big a hazard as second-hand smoke. They are also a big player in getting nations to sign a tobacco control treaty. The Irony is that Tobacco with its money and lobbyists is in the position to say" If we can't beat vaping, we will just take it over", on the premise that they are in the best position to offer "safe" nicotine products. The by-product of this will be the effort to eliminate the aftermarket for vaping products as unsafe... which they can be, just like any other product in the world.
 
The biggest enemy to vaping isn't even the Tobacco industry, sadly. The WHO is pulling out all the stops to paint Vaping and "second-hand Vape" as potentially as big a hazard as second-hand smoke. They are also a big player in getting nations to sign a tobacco control treaty. The Irony is that Tobacco with its money and lobbyists is in the position to say" If we can't beat vaping, we will just take it over", on the premise that they are in the best position to offer "safe" nicotine products. The by-product of this will be the effort to eliminate the aftermarket for vaping products as unsafe... which they can be, just like any other product in the world.

They'll struggle, because all of the ingredients are freely available. Yeah, they may stop companies mixing the stuff and selling it but they can't stop the sales of it. They are pharmaceutical ingredients, so there's a very thin line they need to tread. As just by doing something to vaping out of spite could cause serious repercussions.

It won't be a problem in the EU, it's only America that is basically owned and ran by the tobacco/pharma industry.
 
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