Project Carbon Candy

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[Updated 2016.10.30 v1.1] Project Carbon Candy

So I'm gonna throw up a few pictures of my work in progress at the moment.

I didn't plan on doing a build log for this, as I intended for this just to be a temporary build until the 1080Ti's drop, at which point I'll SLI 2 of them. However as I put more time in, and naturally my perfectionist side comes out, I decided to start snapping pictures along the way.

So here's the rub. If the Man himself TTL stops in my humble thread, and voices he thinks it's a good idea I post up my build log under the projects thread, I'll do so. I've been a long time fan of his YouTube channel, and having him visit my first post on these forums, would be epic. Seeing as how I am here because of his call out for all 1080 owner in his last video (Gainward Reviews), it would be fitting.

A few things to keep in mind if i do the log.
  1. I've never done a build log before
  2. This is my first time bending hard tubing

With that said, I own and operate a successful I.T. consultation company, and I'm pretty detailed, so you could expect a pretty good build log. Although this is my first time heating and bending acrylic tube, rest assured I'm a long time water cooler, from back in the days when you had to buy your pumps from tropical fish stores, and hunt through scrapyards for old heater cores for radiators. From looking at the last picture here, you can see I'm diving into the hardest bends I could do as well, by using minimal fittings, (The offset angles are insane!).

Some History:

As I said this was intended to be a temporary build, as the real rig is 3 years in the making.

It started with the purchase of what would be my last case: A CaseLabs Magnum SMA8 To be daubed Project: Oil Spill. A $600.00 case was sure to be the last case I'll ever buy, and at the time I knew I wasn't going to be building the PC itself. It was all about the water cooling and non PC related components. The case is Black powder coated with Gun Metal accenting on certain panels.

I actually was able to get CaseLabs to manufacture a one of a kind top for the case which holds 1 of my 2 560mm (4x140mm) Hardware Labs Black Ice SR1

Why have I waited so long? It's simple. Broadwell-E & Pascal. 3 years ago I knew the budget needed for such an ambitious project, and I timed the launch of the next Enthusiast line accordingly. (Remember, I'm not just building the PC and IT'S components, but the ENTIRE system including the dual loops. It get's pretty costly.) This is why I started with getting every component excluding the PC components first.

So here we are, Broadwell-E in it's glory, but one problem... No 1080Ti's ..

I'm tired of waiting. Build now, and 1080Ti's later, and move to Oil Spill.


So here we go the good stuff:

Intel i7-6850K (No I'm not spending $1700.00 on a processor I'll never utilize, no matter how much I could tell uncle Sam it's a business expense)
ASUS ROG Rampage 5 Edition 10
64GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000
MSI GTX 1080 Seahawk EK X
Samsung SM961 512GB NVMe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x 4
2x Intel 730 Series 480GB 2.5" SSD
EVGA Supernova 1200 P2 Platinum Power Supply
Primochill Praxis WetBench Black/Orange
CableMod Basic Cable Kit (Black/Orange)

EK-Supremacy Clean CSQ - Nickel + Plexi
Swiftech MCP655-PWM 12v Water Pump
Bitspower D5 Mod Pump Top
Bitspower D5 / MCP655 Mod Kit V2 - Black Sparkle Finish
Bitspower Dual / Single D5 Top Upgrade Kit 150
Hardware Labs Black Ice SR-1 420mm (3x140mm)
3x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPro PK-2 140mm x 25mm
Various Bitspower Black Sparkle Enhance Fittings


So I guess the question is, Should I log, or just post up the Completed protect when finished?

I hope you've enjoyed my story :D

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I know an angle is off by about 1 degree. Give me a break, it's the second tube I've ever bent. :p

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The last picture is where I've actually left off for the day. Believe it or not, but this WetBench actually took a lot of modding. It seems every component I have to install requires so cutting/drilling/dremeling of the $200.00 case I just bought. I would not recommend this WetBench to anyone looking to easily setup a test bench. It really could have used a lot more thought... But I'm working with it, and I'm sure I'll be pleased with the end results.
 
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Hi dude, in order to embed your images correctly you need to add the link which ends in .jpg.
In Chrome you can do it by right-clicking on the image and choosing copy image address.
 
Hi dude, in order to embed your images correctly you need to add the link which ends in .jpg.
In Chrome you can do it by right-clicking on the image and choosing copy image address.

Take note of this, I have done the images for you this time only.

The build looks good so far, want to see how it goes from here, keep up the good work and maybe introduce yourself to the forums.
 
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Damn son! Those bends are impressive as hell, kudos to you fella look forward to seeing more of this work.
 
Take note of this, I have done the images for you this time only.

The build looks good so far, want to see how it goes from here, keep up the good work and maybe introduce yourself to the forums.
Thanks, each forum is a little different, and it's been a while since I've played on a vBulletin Board, even though I've moderated a couple with various others.

I'll try to get a post up in the introduction thread, it's a matter of just finding time. With running a company, and trying to get projects completed, I almost feel guilty posting here.

... We'll just keep it our little secret, yes?...

I have more pictures from today's additions to throw up, but I don't want to push the borderline of a build log. I guess I could always retro post the log.

Damn son! Those bends are impressive as hell, kudos to you fella look forward to seeing more of this work.
Thanks a lot! Gives me a lot of encouragement. I have to say, I pickup on new things rather quickly. I did the Reservoir to CPU tube today, and it came out absolutely perfect. That's with a crazy offset back to the reservoir.



It's funny the build would be simple bends the whole way. However, because the Motherboard & Radiator are Presented at a 45 degree angle, (I think), compared to the Reservoir, it makes every run to the reservoir ridiculous.

...and I know people are going to ask "Why are you hard tubing a WetBench??"...

Well because I can. ^_^ and it actually practice for Oil Spill once that project gets underway.
 
#1 Single GPU Firestrike Extreme!!!

So here's 95% project completion. I still have a little Cable management, and install of the ROG DAC Amp.
(Sorry about the horrible white balance.. Maybe my next project will buy some good camera gear and learn how to use it..)

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I took ton’s of shots along the way showing how I got my angles, measurements, and the utilization of a Moonsoon Hardline Mandrel Tube Bending Kit. I highly recommend the kit, but there are definitely some tip/tricks to use with it, and not mentioned in the few YouTube instructional videos I found from Moonsoon

For my first hard tube rig, I’m overall really happy with the results. The nice thing is if I decide to throw on another GPU for SLI, I can simply add two short pipes for parallel, or an EK parallel bridge.

The nice thing about the R5E10 I can also cut off PCIe slots for troubleshooting other cards. CPU won’t be as easy of course! This really isn’t a test bench, even though it’s on a WetBench chassis.

I'll leave you all with this Firestrike result I just got. #1 Single GPU as of now 2016.07.18 :D

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So I tried editing, but this forum approval is a bit of an annoyance.

The Firestrike Extreme is #1 for the i7-6850K and Single 1080.
 
If anyone is interested, here's a few shots of the 16 core / 32 thread beast of an unRAID server I built

Specs:

CASE & Cooling:
NORCO RPC-470 Black
2x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPro PL-PS 120mm x 25mm Ultra Quiet PWM Fan (Front Intake)
2x SilenX EFX-08-15 80mm Effizio Quiet Case Fan (Rear Exhaust)

MoBo:
ASRock EP2C602-4L/D16​

CPU:
2x Intel Xeon CPU E5-2670 SR0KX (8-Cores/16-Threads)​
CPU Cooler:
Noctua NH-U9DXi4 90mm SSO2​

RAM:
2x 64GB (8 x 8GB) 128GB Total - PC3L-10600R DDR3 1333 ECC Reg (Running at 1866MHz)​

PSU:
SeaSonic X Series X-850​

Storage:
2x Intel RS2WC080 RAID Controller SAS/SATA MD2 6GB/s PCIe 2.0x8
1x iStarUSA BPN-DE350SS-SILVER 3x5.25" to 5x3.5" SAS/SATA 6.0 Gb/s Tray less Hot-Swap Cage
2x Intel 730 Series 480GB SSD (BTRFS Cache Pool in RAID1) 480GB Effective
17x 8TB WD Red Pro = 136TB - 2x8TB (Dual Parity Drives) 120TB Effective Protected Storage Array

Of course it's now sitting in it's home in the server rack. these pictures were taken during building.


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Looks great.

I'm just not keen on the height of the tubing running from the CPU into the top of your radiator. If it was me I would have lowered it quite a bit. I prefer low profile myself but everyone has their own preference. That is the beauty of watercooling.
 
Any particular reason you put a u bend in near the res instead of just bending to the connector on the same level? That'l be an airlock hotspot for sure...
 
looks sick but like others not fan of cpu to res bend. I assume you wanted it to run with the bench curve and have cpu and gpu run parallel but... im not a fan, otherwise great build though. prepare your dust wipes :P
 
Looks great.

I'm just not keen on the height of the tubing running from the CPU into the top of your radiator. If it was me I would have lowered it quite a bit. I prefer low profile myself but everyone has their own preference. That is the beauty of watercooling.
I assume you mean the top of the Reservoir. Well the original intent was to run about 3" vertical from the CPU, bend 90 toward the edge of the bench, at the edge bend 90 up the and follow the edge to the Res inlet, bend 90 straight vertical, and do a 180 degree into the inlet. HOWEVER, after the first bend I realized I pulled the silicon way too early, and well I was stuck. I might redo the run, but I am pretty happy with how it looks. Believe it or not, the 180 degree from the radiator to the GPU I bent and straightened 3 times before I got the silicon in just the right spot I could get the next two bends after before pulling... let's just say these were very ambitious bends.

After the mishap I decided wanted to accentuate the drop of the coolant to the res. I also wanted to keep the same height of all 3 points of intersection at the CPU. The GPU height distinguished this. Lastly I was more concerned with Length & Width of the system footprint. I could go as high as I wanted, and sitting at the left or the right of the system you miss out on either the view of the GPU cooler, or if on the GPU side you miss the view of the rest of the system. Lastly I wanted to be able to get to any component on the motherboard if needed. Though CPU/GPU are stuck until a system drain...

Any particular reason you put a u bend in near the res instead of just bending to the connector on the same level? That'l be an airlock hotspot for sure...
It's actually the pump outlet, the return line is the drop at the top of the reservoir. I did the bend to somewhat match the verticals in the tubing through the system. There was actually meant to be one more 180 at the top of the Reservoir as mentioned above, making a nice hub of 180 degree bends.

I actually had no airlocks at all. The only airlock I had in the entire system was in the GPU right at the inlet. Bleeding the system completely of air took a total of 10 minutes. Remember I'm using a D5 pump in a system that consists of about 1.35 liters, or 1.25 quarts. I also specifically had airlocks in mind while building, and desiged to avoid them as much as possible. The BP air release valve played a big part here as well.

looks sick but like others not fan of cpu to res bend. I assume you wanted it to run with the bench curve and have cpu and gpu run parallel but... im not a fan, otherwise great build though. prepare your dust wipes :P
Exactly on all points!

Thank for the feedback. I was wondering if everyone just hated it...
 
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.... Well Dam..

Ya'll just made me see a much better Reservoir return path parallel to the GPU line in, then a 90 vertical to a 180 degree reservoir in from on top of the corner near the radiator. (Basically follow the GPU line but to the side of the Reservoir)
Not sure if any of that makes sens, but it gives me back all my clean lines of entry.

Now I just have to see if I have enough acrylic left.. Think I only have 6 feet left..

Guess i get to test the drainage system early!

... Stay tuned..
 
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Exactly on all points!

Thank for the feedback. I was wondering if everyone just hated it...

I don't think anyone hates it at all. It's a good build and very clean. We just all agree on the same tube run doesn't quite fit nicely in the build. I understand you want the uniformity of all tubes running at the same level. It was just that for me, the extreme height of the cpu-res stood out more.

The important thing is that you are satisfied with it. That is what matters most.
 
Carbon Candy v1.1

So after having to rip the entire loop apart not only because a low PH of 4 had caused unexpected copper deposits in the loop, but also because of an expected block change, the system is back online.

At this point the system is complete, With the exception of installation of the Samsung SM961 512GB NVme M.2 PCIe 4x SSD, ordered from RAM City in July ... (Wondering if it will ever ship...). The next step would be to move this system into the Caselabs SMA8 and split the loop into Duals, and upgrade GPU's to 1080Ti's when they drop.

I'm not in a hurry though, I'm enjoying this system quite a bit.

i7-6850K - OC 4600Mhz
64GB (2x32GB[4x8GB]) - Corsiar Dominator Paltinum SE (Blackout) DDR4-3200 - OC 3400MHz
MSI GTX 1080 SeaHawk EK X - OC Core 2177MHz : Mem 5594MHz (Yes the core is actually at 2177MHz stable)

The entire loop is currently cooled by 1 420mm(3x140mm) Black Ice SR1

Current system Temps:
Ambient Room Temp: 22C
Idle: 30C​

Full Load:
CPU: Max Temp 60C Average 54C
GPU: Max Temp 66C Average 43C​


Now some updated Shots for your enjoyment:

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Annnndd we're validated.
I reclaimed my title & broke 21,000 in Fire Strike on a single GPU!
There's a dozen or so (x2) SLI guys I'm on top of that I'm sure aren't happy. I'm tempted to pick up another one of these cards, but I just can't justify the cost when I know I'll be getting 2 1080Ti's when they land. Not to mention I know I won the silicon lottery with this card. I've actually completed benches at 2190MHz on the core, and I'd really like to break 2200MHz.......

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