More cooling questions! FFS!

Mr. Smith

Mr. Smith

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OK OK, so I'm thinking lots about where I want to go with a new build and my latest thought is this or something along those lines.

Thing is I don't know if this is a real company as they did a bit of a spam advert on here. I just like the fact this unit is self contained and can be intergrated into a case. It also isn't -temps so I shouldn't have the hassle of insulation etc. The co gave me a quote of $450 + p&p (which was btw something rediculous like $300 - making this a no go)

I saw Chilly1 did something similar on XS but his went to -40 and prob cost too much and well, I gather he isn't in a position to build/sell things atm.

Are there any other units that are almost the same? Not like Jimbos old water chiller - I have to be able to attach to the case (or fit it inside, dimentions are not decided to this is reasonably flexible)...

Any linkage would be sweet as a nut :)
 
There's a guy on ebay that Ham's bought phase stuff from that does some very nice looking units for around the £350 mark.

I've actually moved to peltier cooling now which gives me an idle of -10oc and takes up no space inside the case.
 
How long are you willing to wait?

After ive got a vac pump and giving that my current project goes smoothly ill be building somthing very,very simmilar but with either propane (R290) or R404a. Both better than R134a. If its successful ill most likely sell it on.
 
I spect so. Just need to figure out a decent evap design.

Ive got the little bits needed lying around. All id need to source would be the compressor, condenser and a bit of piping for the evap. Possibly get someone to import me a Suction line accumalator(sp?)

It would be very similar to this but less polished and better performing evap.

As i said the problem is i dont have a vac pump yet, and what with my main rig dying and sill being in debt for car repairs it could be a month + a bit before i get one:(.
 
name='ai_01' said:
i dont think he wants a phase, but a water chiller to be integrated into his case or stacked.
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Correctomundo! Check out the brains on ai ;) (sorry having a pulp fiction moment!)

@Kemp/Ham - It doesn't have to be pretty as (giving too much away) it will be housed inside a case if a) the price is right and b) a certain someone agrees it can be done.

I would like a retail unit over a non-retail as if the plan doesn't work out I can stack it...

So, linky's to watercoolers like the one in my first post OR Ham, what say ye?

Edit: Just saw your reply. Not sure what you're saying as if you were to build me one I would be paying for all the parts and labour (also the images on the link are blocked at work). Smaller is better if poss. This is the best site :worship:
 
If your willing to wait then ill quite happily build you one. Can't give any specific price yet as it will vary drasticly on the compressor/condenser.

Where abouts are you located? Id also probably have to deliver it in person as postage people wouldnt be anywhere near cearful enough.

If not then imo you best bet would be a TEC based Aquamedic ala the one XMS used to have.

Btw have you looked up the insulation you have to do with this kind of cooling? Often renders motherboards un-resellable/RMAable.
 
name='Ham' said:
If your willing to wait then ill quite happily build you one. Can't give any specific price yet as it will vary drasticly on the compressor/condenser.

Where abouts are you located? Id also probably have to deliver it in person as postage people wouldnt be anywhere near cearful enough.

If not then imo you best bet would be a TEC based Aquamedic ala the one XMS used to have.

Btw have you looked up the insulation you have to do with this kind of cooling? Often renders motherboards un-resellable/RMAable.
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Nah, I've seen the insulation involved (and the problems) with minus figures. I literally wanted a small water chiller that say, takes the liquid to 0 degrees but the heat from the CPU/GPU/chipset will keep it above freezing! (Similar/better performance to Jimbo's old unit but small enough to stack/put inside a case)

Are you with me? Is that possible?
 
Howd I miss this!

Bit busy but I'll add more info in a bit for you.

A cased chiller is a bit harder to do than a direct die unit and a lot more work and insulation for the buyer. Every tube and block and peice of hardware needs proper insulation and a leak or something kills.

For positive points though, large load is good if the unit contains a resevoir that is chilled, multiple components can be cooled, you do need your own watercooling already (- the radiator) though.

I suggest investing in a single stage direct die designed to chill just your CPU. Some people have more then alot of problems with just that little bit of insulation and more is an incredibly hassle!
 
I', absolutely
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ed out of my face. nol: what? i'm staying above freezing so surely no insulation is required?

Did anyone lok at the first post, the unit?

Apologies, keep the info coming
 
Yes to answer ur original actual question,

I don't trust the cooler express's as a business due to bad business practices. As for Chilly1, Reggie is under major problems also due to business practices and bits of bad luck.

I suggest buying from Gray Mole or Johann or even Ham once he's running, but not from Cooler Express and not from Chilly1 and also to not get a chiller.
 
And water below ambient will produce lots of condensation, like when you stick a cold glass of beer on the table - that's why you need insulation
 
If youre looking for compactness and low temperatures try looking into Peltier / Tec cooling. You can use it in conjunction with your watercooling but would need another small PSU - like the FSP booster
 
If u want a simple water chiller just buy an old used Prommy or Vapo, hack off the end of the evap and braze/weld on a serpentine in place. Then just drop the serp in to a cooler and work out your tubing route, and it will work very very nicely! Pretty cheap too.
 
It would cost more to buy a pre-built unit and mod it than to build one from scratch here frag. Thoughs things run about £500.

My costs for my SS, inc tools (even the essential ones i don't have yet) is running up on £400. A chiller would be even cheaper as theres no flexline and the evaps can just be coils.

You will need insulation as the temps are below the temp of the room you are in, regaurdless of the sub-zero soultion you chose.

Johann is very reputabile(sp?), and ive not delt with Grey Mole but his reputaion speaks for itself. Both these would provide the best solution if you want it asap. If u were to wait for me id encorperate a iwaki or similar pump and the evap would be a rad/rez in one. I'd happily insulate some tubing with it. The aformentioned guys would also do that i expect. Youd then have to worry about the mobo and block itself.
 
I don't remember making any posts last night...

If I have to insulate regardless I may as well go for uber sub zero...

Maybe I'm not ready for this venture - I don't want to kill my components. I am really interested in this so thanks for the help guys.
 
name='Mr. Smith' said:
I don't remember making any posts last night...

If I have to insulate regardless I may as well go for uber sub zero...

Maybe I'm not ready for this venture - I don't want to kill my components. I am really interested in this so thanks for the help guys.
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I was in the same boat as you a few months back with regard to insulating. It may sound daunting but really it isn't.
 
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