Microsoft will not support upcoming CPUs on Windows 7 or 8.1

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I do have to agree with AlienALX though as why would you buy top of the line hardware and run an OS that can't utilize it all ?

To me that is an immense waste of money, It's like buying a Lamborghini and never going over 30MPH ^_^

Well it's a bit of a waste of money buying a Lamborghini as well, as you can never truly max it out anyway... Without breaking the law :)
 
pretty funny that you mention why to buy "cutting edge tech" if you cant utilise it.. well maybe cause they just dont lol?

Imo its a pretty funny thing, you force people to a newer OS saying that it "might utilise it better" even though they can utilise it for the older OS too. They just wont do it while they actually can.

Saying that they can focus more on w10 now is like McDonalds stopping with nuggets and focusing more on hamburgers..

Microsoft has more than enough budget to support both. They're just playing their monopoly game and forcing everyone, because they can and thats what sucks big time.

Companies are taking more and more freedom of choice from us and we just keep silent.. In time we cant even choose our own ****ing screen because it wont support our "older graphics card"

You cant choose your keyboard cause it wont support this usb type

you cant choose your own graphics card because it wont support this motherboard because windows 10 doesnt support it..

and so on...

And even than, just how much % of every one FULLY utilises his pc? There is only a small percentage of us enthusiasts so than again, why use w10 if an older OS works just as good or better with the config those people have and most of the time, people buy that what they think they need, not what they really need.
 
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pretty funny that you mention why to buy "cutting edge tech" if you cant utilise it.. well maybe cause they just dont lol?

Imo its a pretty funny thing, you force people to a newer OS saying that it "might utilise it better" even though they can utilise it for the older OS too. They just wont do it while they actually can.

Saying that they can focus more on w10 now is like McDonalds stopping with nuggets and focusing more on hamburgers..

Microsoft has more than enough budget to support both. They're just playing their monopoly game and forcing everyone, because they can and thats what sucks big time.

Companies are taking more and more freedom of choice from us and we just keep silent.. In time we cant even choose our own ****ing screen because it wont support our "older graphics card"

You cant choose your keyboard cause it wont support this usb type

you cant choose your own graphics card because it wont support this motherboard because windows 10 doesnt support it..

and so on...

And even than, just how much % of every one FULLY utilises his pc? There is only a small percentage of us enthusiasts so than again, why use w10 if an older OS works just as good or better with the config those people have and most of the time, people buy that what they think they need, not what they really need.

Well said my friend :)
 
pretty funny that you mention why to buy "cutting edge tech" if you cant utilise it.. well maybe cause they just dont lol?

Imo its a pretty funny thing, you force people to a newer OS saying that it "might utilise it better" even though they can utilise it for the older OS too. They just wont do it while they actually can.

Saying that they can focus more on w10 now is like McDonalds stopping with nuggets and focusing more on hamburgers..

Microsoft has more than enough budget to support both. They're just playing their monopoly game and forcing everyone, because they can and thats what sucks big time.

Companies are taking more and more freedom of choice from us and we just keep silent.. In time we cant even choose our own ****ing screen because it wont support our "older graphics card"

You cant choose your keyboard cause it wont support this usb type

you cant choose your own graphics card because it wont support this motherboard because windows 10 doesnt support it..

and so on...

And even than, just how much % of every one FULLY utilises his pc? There is only a small percentage of us enthusiasts so than again, why use w10 if an older OS works just as good or better with the config those people have and most of the time, people buy that what they think they need, not what they really need.

If you're happy sticking with DX11 as it will slowly get phased out then stick with it but DX12 will be bringing some truly awesome tech that if you want to experience you have to move to a newer OS :)
 

Chrazey is using a I7, IIRC. 4790k was it?

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=392839

Have a read of that. Basically Windows 7 does not support more than 4 cores so you have to hack it in order to make use of HT properly. That is not a fix, nor will it all of a sudden make Windows 7 support an I7 correctly.

So my point remains. Why in the name of all that is holy use an OS that does not work with your computer properly?

Why?

Why would you knowingly pay a huge chunk of extra money for an I7 when you can't use it properly?

Would you buy two graphics cards if the OS limited you to using one? of course you wouldn't !

So basically he is cutting off his nose to spite his face by refusing to update to Windows 10.

I really, truly, can not put it any more simply than that !
 
Haha 2 pages already.

Each to their own.


I've not had great experiences with W10 and W8.1 especially on my notebook. But thats just me and the specific hardware I have in one of my notebooks.

Also finding that some of my apps (though not always a significant one) simply wont run properly or at all on W10.
 
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Chrazey is using a I7, IIRC. 4790k was it?

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=392839

Have a read of that. Basically Windows 7 does not support more than 4 cores so you have to hack it in order to make use of HT properly. That is not a fix, nor will it all of a sudden make Windows 7 support an I7 correctly.

So my point remains. Why in the name of all that is holy use an OS that does not work with your computer properly?

Why?

Why would you knowingly pay a huge chunk of extra money for an I7 when you can't use it properly?

Would you buy two graphics cards if the OS limited you to using one? of course you wouldn't !

So basically he is cutting off his nose to spite his face by refusing to update to Windows 10.

I really, truly, can not put it any more simply than that !

Now you're just starting to make me laugh dude ^_^

You are STILL trying to convince me to go Windows 10, even though my mindset is different from yours (obviously).

And yes, I have an i7 4790K, but I'm on Windows 8.1 and not 7, so not sure where you got that from I'm on Windows 7? :huh:

Plus, I'm on ITX, meaning only 1 graphics card and I've never really seen the purpose of going multi GPUs. Hence me sticking with only one, getting the highest end single GPU that I can afford :)
 
We're talking about something that isn't out yet - upcoming CPU's - not working on a platform that is already EOL.

It's more like complaining about console backwards compatibility and that your Playstation One games don't play on your PS4. (they look rubbish anyway)

Nobody is forcing you to upgrade to Win 10 if you keep the platform you have now.

Yes MS have money. Yes they could afford to spend the resources and money on legacy products but they want more money and profit for shareholders and themselves. It's how the world works. Any publicly listed company will try to maximize profit and you do this by not developing on superseded operating systems for future chips.

It's never been a case of one O.S for (your) lifetime and unlimited upgrades. (with the possible exception of Linux/Ubuntu etc as I've no knowledge of those)

Everyone jumped on STALKER for moaning about Nvidia not bringing DX12 to a 400 series card. Surely this is a similar thing? There has to be a time to let go of legacy product support which is all this is.



This should be named the bad analogy thread :lol:
Please feel free to R8 my analogy ;)
 
I'm starting to think that some people in this thread must work for Microsoft they way they just keep pushing it.

We're talking about something that isn't out yet - upcoming CPU's - not working on a platform that is already EOL.

It's more like complaining about console backwards compatibility and that your Playstation One games don't play on your PS4. (they look rubbish anyway)

Nobody is forcing you to upgrade to Win 10 if you keep the platform you have now.

Yes MS have money. Yes they could afford to spend the resources and money on legacy products but they want more money and profit for shareholders and themselves. It's how the world works. Any publicly listed company will try to maximize profit and you do this by not developing on superseded operating systems for future chips.

It's never been a case of one O.S for (your) lifetime and unlimited upgrades. (with the possible exception of Linux/Ubuntu etc as I've no knowledge of those)

Everyone jumped on STALKER for moaning about Nvidia not bringing DX12 to a 400 series card. Surely this is a similar thing? There has to be a time to let go of legacy product support which is all this is.




Please feel free to R8 my analogy ;)

The problem is the Windows 10 upgrade is nag ware it's like every 5-10mins it's want you to upgrade and i know even people have remove it from there systems and it comes back also it has upgraded people to Windows 10 without them knowing and they said NO before have.
 
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Well I know that members on here as said otherwise...
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Who've been corrected. Multiple times again.


Everyone jumped on STALKER for moaning about Nvidia not bringing DX12 to a 400 series card. Surely this is a similar thing? There has to be a time to let go of legacy product support which is all this is.




Please feel free to R8 my analogy ;)

6/10 - It makes sense regarding 7 but not 8.1. Thats more like nVidia not bringing DX12 support to the 7xx series. Its too soon IMO.
 
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6/10 can do better. James is easily distracted and needs to apply himself.

Sounds familiar! :)

I'm wondering if this will apply to Win7 Enterprise as well?

We are slow to evolve there but our workstations are updated every 2 years. Now when Kaby comes out if we're still on 7 enterprise it could cause issues. We only migrated from XP in the last five years.

Larger corporations are tied to custom software platforms so it's not as simple as updating a home or small business environment.
 
I'm wondering if this will apply to Win7 Enterprise as well?

We are slow to evolve there but our workstations are updated every 2 years. Now when Kaby comes out if we're still on 7 enterprise it could cause issues. We only migrated from XP in the last five years.

Larger corporations are tied to custom software platforms so it's not as simple as updating a home or small business environment.

I believe it is all versions of 7/8 (8 is now eol already lol)/8.1. If it was all non commercial versions then, again, I'd see where micorosoft were coming from.
 
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