Little Thought Given To Motherboard Manufacturing

[Ovek]

Asus are guiltier than most with "odd" motherboard design decisions. It's not just big things like pci lines being to close together but also the small things, take the Maximus IV Extreme (and by extension Extreme-Z)... can anyone really tell me why its E-ATX? And lets not even get in to the USB3 header location

 

[yggdrasil]

I am also going to build a mATX system for gaming. Mainly for portability for LANs. How dose a mATX preform less than a mid ranged ATX mobo, I say mid ranged because that's normally were they are priced like the rampage 3 gene it's no full fledged rampage but is no slug

 

[Sapsh]

Are you trying to build a beefed up console replacement in console form factor?

The only console for me is Nintendo 8bit

mATX is 6cm shorter than ATX and has the same width, so in my eyes the biggest difference is the number of PCI lines (and features I dont need).

I'm thinking of using Corsair 600T(i know its expensive, but i like the look) and eventhough ATX will fit in, mATX will be cheaper to buy. For example Maximus IV GENE is ~140 quid, and Maximus IV Extreme is double that. The former has all I need, so I see no point in paying more. ACtually just found a pic featuring M IV GENE with a SLI setup

 

[Ovek]

Put a Noctua ND-H14 on that and you wouldn't be able to see the motherboard at all

 

[Sapsh]

Put a Noctua ND-H14 on that and you wouldn't be able to see the motherboard at all

I doubt it would fit, its too wide and the CPU socket is very close to the ports. would be funny looking though

 

[yggdrasil]

This

On this hahahha or even a mITX

 

[Sapsh]

It's mounted the wrong way round! Where did you get the photo from?

 

[yggdrasil]

Google.

I think its just a photo for S*%ts and giggles man since it has on board video so it must be a H55 board

Only mITX mobo's you'd probably put that on is some thing like DFI P55 LAN boards or equivalent (out dated i know but I haven't seen any mITX P67 or Z68 boards yet)

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

This is not final and there can still be some changes and positions are not exact. but i am sure you get the idea.

 

[Excalabur50]

The really big problems arise if you want to run quad sli or xfire and run a good sound card and a pcie hdd where the bloody hell do you put it all!!!

 

[yggdrasil]

I also think the CPU power plug could be moved over next to the 24 pin plug Becomes a hassle in a lot of tall cases that mount the PSU at the bottom. It worked 8 years ago when top mounted PSU were the norm, Now its not so much. Well not in performance rigs.

 

[jonowee]

Gawd, this thread is getting more infuriating every time I visit. So to keep from ranting, I'll keep it short and sweet for your ideas.

Remember this: There is only so much space on the PCB. Every component has to be powered and connected to their relevant components to function.

 

[SmoulderingCircuits]

The only console for me is Nintendo 8bit

mATX is 6cm shorter than ATX and has the same width, so in my eyes the biggest difference is the number of PCI lines (and features I dont need).

I'm thinking of using Corsair 600T(i know its expensive, but i like the look) and eventhough ATX will fit in, mATX will be cheaper to buy. For example Maximus IV GENE is ~140 quid, and Maximus IV Extreme is double that. The former has all I need, so I see no point in paying more. ACtually just found a pic featuring M IV GENE with a SLI setup

8 bit looks better than today's consoles

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

8 bit looks better than today's consoles

that was a pretty dumb response.

 

[SmoulderingCircuits]

that was a pretty dumb response.

NES had colour, look at PS3

 

[JezEngland]

ye it's bad marketing and lack of care. problems i see and like you wrote there's alot of tripple slot cooled cards and are heavily advertised, and they've gained alot of attention, alot have sold and that makes upgrading to SLI, Xfire impossible so new hardware needs to be purchased so the marketing gains money again and these cards are a false econemy as enthusiast overclockers probably prefer using reference coolers to test the original design or go Sub Zero for the limit.

It is a rare thing to need only 1 card cooled like that I think. They're very heavy and often need extra support. The fans need good space to grasp air wich is rare in SLI, Xfire

The best card is MSI's exreme 580, twin frozer 3 I think wich is a dual slot and the enthusiasts will remove that cooler, they want just the card so the tripple slot cards are a bit pointless again because all that's special is the dangerouse complicating cooler and they're often very expensive, more than the MSI i mentioned, like Zotacs 480 is a killer price.

 

[Excalabur50]

Gawd, this thread is getting more infuriating every time I visit. So to keep from ranting, I'll keep it short and sweet for your ideas.

Remember this: There is only so much space on the PCB. Every component has to be powered and connected to their relevant components to function.

I can totally agree with your statement but the point is make graphics cards to suit the board or vice versa and just think a little more about the kind of tech that is avaliable and what people might want to run before releasing product.