ケイ - Watercooled Enthoo Primo
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alpenwasser
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Very nice pic I must say. 
Kei
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Picked up the missing FC titan SE backplate in a christmas sale. Should finish the current setup off nicely. Could definitely do with replacing the tubing with some clear tygon medical ND 100-65 or primochill LRT. Definitely want to sort out replacing the reservoir with a glass tube. (either an aqua computer or xspc phantom)
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Kei
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Had my first watercooling incident on the 23rd. (a nice early xmas gift) Due to my own stupidity i might add. The inlet hose for the CPU block blew off whilst i'd left it running heaven to test some clock changes on the 780. I wasn't around at the time either so i only realised something was amiss when i came back to find my pc had cut out. Lucky i thought to open it up to see whether anything was amiss rather than try to power it back on, as there were a few large puddles sat on top of the gpu and a boating lake in the bottom of the case. (and the motherboard lights were still glowing blue)
This was the graphics card after i'd dried off the puddles on the outside and removed the backplate. The core side was a little better, but still wet. Both halves of the xonar card got fairly wet too though i'd already dried them by the time i took this photo. I think the motherboard and gpu copped the brunt of it. Lost about 350ml of coolant in total, yet was lucky enough to not even get a drip on the carpet. :huh:
The cause of said problem was down to the fact that i'd removed and refitted old 7/16" hosing onto the 1/2" barbs. The old hosing had stretched with age and was getting a bit too easy to get on and off the barbs. I had forgotten how bloody difficult it was to fit/remove fresh 7/16" tubing until i replaced the old stuff. I still had about 60cm spare that i'd been using for top ups/refilling with a funnel.
I ended up dismantling the entire system and stripping all the cards and the motherboard bare, cleaned it all off with IPA and then stuffed it all in the oven at 40 for a couple of hours. I then rebuilt the GPU using the original air cooler and tested it in another system and incredibly it had survived completely unscathed. I then had to take it apart and reassemble it with the ek block and then fully rebuild my system then fill and bleed it. I finally got it all back together yesterday evening. I seem to be blessed with luck, as my entire system survived, despite a huge amount of water it got hosed with. I used fresh tubing for most of it plus i added some unsightly cable ties just to help make sure those hoses stay put. (for the time being) Lesson learned, use clamps with barbs, don't reuse old tube and if you can afford it, use compression fittings instead.
This was the graphics card after i'd dried off the puddles on the outside and removed the backplate. The core side was a little better, but still wet. Both halves of the xonar card got fairly wet too though i'd already dried them by the time i took this photo. I think the motherboard and gpu copped the brunt of it. Lost about 350ml of coolant in total, yet was lucky enough to not even get a drip on the carpet. :huh:
The cause of said problem was down to the fact that i'd removed and refitted old 7/16" hosing onto the 1/2" barbs. The old hosing had stretched with age and was getting a bit too easy to get on and off the barbs. I had forgotten how bloody difficult it was to fit/remove fresh 7/16" tubing until i replaced the old stuff. I still had about 60cm spare that i'd been using for top ups/refilling with a funnel.
I ended up dismantling the entire system and stripping all the cards and the motherboard bare, cleaned it all off with IPA and then stuffed it all in the oven at 40 for a couple of hours. I then rebuilt the GPU using the original air cooler and tested it in another system and incredibly it had survived completely unscathed. I then had to take it apart and reassemble it with the ek block and then fully rebuild my system then fill and bleed it. I finally got it all back together yesterday evening. I seem to be blessed with luck, as my entire system survived, despite a huge amount of water it got hosed with. I used fresh tubing for most of it plus i added some unsightly cable ties just to help make sure those hoses stay put. (for the time being) Lesson learned, use clamps with barbs, don't reuse old tube and if you can afford it, use compression fittings instead.
FYI your only problem was re-using tubing dude. That my boy is a rookie error.
1/2 barbs with 7/16 hose is perfectly fine without clamps - but if you take it off you bin it!
1/2 barbs with 7/16 hose is perfectly fine without clamps - but if you take it off you bin it!
Kei
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Finally looking to move on from my trusty old phenom II system. I've looked at both intel and amd and have decided that X79 is probably my preferred route using the following parts:-
Intel i7 4820K
Asus P9X79 motherboard
16GB Kingston HyperX 1600 (i've already got 8GB so i'm getting another 8GB kit)
Koolance CPU-380i
Total coming to £557 (budget was £600 MAX)
Everything else will get transferred. I'll need to switch the XT45 in the top with the EX240 in the bottom so that the motherboard will fit. I've had to choose a board that comes with a pci slot for my xonar essence ST which has made life more difficult. Knew i should have gone with the STX at the time and not bothered with the H6. Would have gone with the ZxR if it had been out back when i replaced my X-Fi. Similar annoyance with my koolance CPU-380A which i can't just buy an intel bracket for. Had I gone for the EK supremacy like I originally intended, I wouldn't need to be replacing it now.
I've not bought anything yet in case anyone has any bright ideas that I may have missed but will be looking to sort this out in the next week or so. Overclocking this is going to be a steep learning curve as i've not owned anything from intel since the 386sx.
Oh yeah, new tubing too...:lol:
Intel i7 4820K
Asus P9X79 motherboard
16GB Kingston HyperX 1600 (i've already got 8GB so i'm getting another 8GB kit)
Koolance CPU-380i
Total coming to £557 (budget was £600 MAX)
Everything else will get transferred. I'll need to switch the XT45 in the top with the EX240 in the bottom so that the motherboard will fit. I've had to choose a board that comes with a pci slot for my xonar essence ST which has made life more difficult. Knew i should have gone with the STX at the time and not bothered with the H6. Would have gone with the ZxR if it had been out back when i replaced my X-Fi. Similar annoyance with my koolance CPU-380A which i can't just buy an intel bracket for. Had I gone for the EK supremacy like I originally intended, I wouldn't need to be replacing it now.
I've not bought anything yet in case anyone has any bright ideas that I may have missed but will be looking to sort this out in the next week or so. Overclocking this is going to be a steep learning curve as i've not owned anything from intel since the 386sx.
Oh yeah, new tubing too...:lol:
Kei
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Upgrade inbound!
First part has arrived this morning, just got two more bits to arrive today. I've now got the Intel waterblock, an additional 8GB of hyperX genesis in blue to go with the grey i already have and 1m of xspc clear hose. (i've put some xspc UV hose to show the difference between old uv, fresh uv and fresh clear)
I've just fitted the new ram into the current system to see how well the new ram plays ball with the original set. I've fitted it so that they are in grey+blue channels. It wouldn't boot properly at first, but after a few tweaks it's now running fine. I've had a closer look at the xmp profile for them and there is only one difference. tRFC is 128 on the grey set and 208 on the blue set. Everything else, including the product code is the same. I'm Hopeful that it shouldn't affect their performance in the intel system.
First part has arrived this morning, just got two more bits to arrive today. I've now got the Intel waterblock, an additional 8GB of hyperX genesis in blue to go with the grey i already have and 1m of xspc clear hose. (i've put some xspc UV hose to show the difference between old uv, fresh uv and fresh clear)
I've just fitted the new ram into the current system to see how well the new ram plays ball with the original set. I've fitted it so that they are in grey+blue channels. It wouldn't boot properly at first, but after a few tweaks it's now running fine. I've had a closer look at the xmp profile for them and there is only one difference. tRFC is 128 on the grey set and 208 on the blue set. Everything else, including the product code is the same. I'm Hopeful that it shouldn't affect their performance in the intel system.
Will get on with building it this evening.
Upgrade inbound!
First part has arrived this morning, just got two more bits to arrive today. I've now got the Intel waterblock, an additional 8GB of hyperX genesis in blue to go with the grey i already have and 1m of xspc clear hose. (i've put some xspc UV hose to show the difference between old uv, fresh uv and fresh clear)
I've just fitted the new ram into the current system to see how well the new ram plays ball with the original set. I've fitted it so that they are in grey+blue channels. It wouldn't boot properly at first, but after a few tweaks it's now running fine. I've had a closer look at the xmp profile for them and there is only one difference. tRFC is 128 on the grey set and 208 on the blue set. Everything else, including the product code is the same. I'm Hopeful that it shouldn't affect their performance in the intel system.
Love it how you hid the Haribo in there! :lol:
Kei
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That's an Overclockers uk thing.
Cheers still uncertain how they will look with the new kit as there is no green on it. Hopefully it'll look ok.You have the nicest custom cables I've ever seen
Cpu arrived whilst i was in work. Spent the entire evening so far draining and dismantling everything.
Motherboard, cpu and ram built ready to go in.
That's an Overclockers uk thing.
Cheers still uncertain how they will look with the new kit as there is no green on it. Hopefully it'll look ok.
Cpu arrived whilst i was in work. Spent the entire evening so far draining and dismantling everything.
Motherboard, cpu and ram built ready to go in.
Well I didn't know about the Haribo thing
I had my doubts about that RAM going together aesthetically, but it actually looks really good!
Kei
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The haribo is something ocuk tend to drop in each parcel they send. I've now got about 4 packs. Glad you think the ram looks ok, would prefer the grey modules to have been the green LoVo stuff. Not sure if it would play ball together in quad channel and it doesn't seem to be all that common either. As it is, i am unsure how things will pan out with the memory anyway.Well I didn't know about the Haribo thing
I had my doubts about that RAM going together aesthetically, but it actually looks really good!
Last update of the day. Finally finished turning taking it all apart and shifting it around. Had to use washers on the alphacool bolts as the heads were smaller than the fan guards. The reservoir is a bit tight at the bottom now that the thickness of the bottom radiator has increased. Might need to use some foam under the drive cage to stop it making contact and making the case resonate. Most of the bleeding seems to be done and i just need to check for leaks in the morning. I'm hoping i won't need to use the bios flashback procedure to get it to boot tomorrow, but i've got the latest bios on a usb stick ready just in case.
Kei
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Finally finished bleeding it this evening and got it up and running ok. Runs like a dream on my original windows intall and is even faster to boot. Presently got it clocked up to 4.5GHz using a multiplier of 45 at 1.216V and it seems stable. Temperatures so far have averaged mid 50's with one core peaking 59. I'm extremely new to overclocking with intel so it's going to be a steep learning curve.
Zoot
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I must say, you did very well to get so long out of your Phenom II X4. I actually have the same CPU and 790FX board in my secondary rig. Solid combination they were. ^_^
It must also be quite the change, going Intel & Nvidia after all these years of AMD only.
Anyway, great rig and well done. I wouldn't nearly have all the patience to go through all that torment. The end result was well worth it though.
It must also be quite the change, going Intel & Nvidia after all these years of AMD only.
Anyway, great rig and well done. I wouldn't nearly have all the patience to go through all that torment. The end result was well worth it though.
Kei
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I usually try to get my pc's to last a long time. I've found that if the initial outlay is quite high, the length of time they last is usually improved. The old athlon64 system that i ran prior to the phenom lasted from 2006-2009 and got passed on to my parents who used it right up till the end of last year. (after deciding that 2GB of ram was no longer enough and the impossibility of finding another PC4000 set of modules) This i7 system is my first intel for nearly 20 years, so it's got a lot to live up to. TBH, i can see the difference, but i usually see it each time i upgrade, plus i'm slightly disappointed as i really wanted a 6/8 core as it would have lasted longer.I must say, you did very well to get so long out of your Phenom II X4. I actually have the same CPU and 790FX board in my secondary rig. Solid combination they were. ^_^
It must also be quite the change, going Intel & Nvidia after all these years of AMD only.
Anyway, great rig and well done. I wouldn't nearly have all the patience to go through all that torment. The end result was well worth it though.
It's overclocking quite well, but the bombardment of options is a bit disconcerting and i'm finding it very hard to push it beyond 4.6GHz. 125MHz strap seems to be worse for stability. This is how it went at 4.5GHz. I've managed to get this up to 4.6GHz with a small bump in volts to 1.280V and i've made some attempt to tighten the memory timings although there are so many it's a challenge to work out what to touch. One thing i have noticed is that the line between stable and unstable seems to be incredibly thin with intel vs amd. At least with amd it would throw rounding errors in prime/linx or blue screen when pushed, but this can go from stable straight to not making it into windows just by a tiny change in voltage or +100mhz on the core.
alpenwasser
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Man, it's the end of an era!
Nice upgrade though.
Nice upgrade though.
