Is this a good computer
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remember300
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Yes it will run BF 3 on ultra, cant garentee 60 fps, but if i can run it on a 560ti and get 40-50 fps you should be fine, im assuming you will be running at 1920x1080, and you can OC if you like but stock should be ok too, if you want a lil more CPU power you will need something more than the stock cooler dont forget.
NeverBackDown
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7950 is around the same price as a 660ti and outperforms a 670 in most games. A 7950 is usually the lowest card I tell people to get if the budget permits. In your case a 7950 is available to you and i say get it!
Other than that go for Ivy/Haswell depending on whichever is cheaper. Use that saved money for a better Cpu cooler.
Other than that go for Ivy/Haswell depending on whichever is cheaper. Use that saved money for a better Cpu cooler.
Ok back on topic guys,
MSI also makes a z87-g45 gaming and a z87-gd65 gaming board , both black and red , it really depends on the color scheme you want to use. The Noctua NH-D14 is good for air cooling or you could get a Corsair h100i , I think it will fit in that case.
To the OP: Make sure you get the correct motherboard for that processor.
MSI also makes a z87-g45 gaming and a z87-gd65 gaming board , both black and red , it really depends on the color scheme you want to use. The Noctua NH-D14 is good for air cooling or you could get a Corsair h100i , I think it will fit in that case.
To the OP: Make sure you get the correct motherboard for that processor.
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vorticalbox
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If we assume he has vsync on and his max fps was 60 (60 hz monitor) then to get 55avg the lowest fps would have been 50.
If it went down to 40 avg would be 50.
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we ain't assuming anyone would be stupid enough to use vsync in a multiplayer fps.
also you can still have drops to 40 with avg 55 and vsync enabled because you cannot assume that the framerates occur even times on both sides of the 55.
Imagine you got 4 seconds. First three seconds run at 60 fps and the last second at 40. average that is 55 fps. BAM, MATH'D YOU BACK!
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your example really only works if you are running for 2 seconds and you assume one of them is at 60fps.
vorticalbox
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that would give 55 average you're right, but I think they just take highest and lowest and /2 to get the average.
no you don't. usually a really heavy drop happens when you start up a benchmark. imagine you have a benchmark and you have max fps of 120 and lowest fps of 10, then avg would be 65, even if the framerate is constantly around 100 after the initial drop.
vorticalbox
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fair enough
i always assumed they just took highest and lowest, less resource used that marking every rate per second ^_^it's not a whole lot of work to do it, in scrips that's just a loopfair enough
so why only take the max and min, it's no additional work and is way more precise.
vorticalbox
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it's not a whole lot of work to do it, in scrips that's just a loop
already thinking of that loop my head, would be a nice big array. *geek mode* kinda off topic now though :/
man i love loops. so much. the best thing that has ever happened to programming is loops. <3
oh yea, of topic hard.
iBeInspire
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Just thought I'd chime in and say that since BF3's not really a twitch shooter, you don't need 60fps/125fps constant, since the game plays slower you don't notice your FPS going from 60 to 58 like you do in something like COD4 where accuracy has to be utterly perfect.
I'd switch the monitor for a 24'', since you can get one for basically £10 either way, and it really is nicer to have a bigger screen for those off times you decide to sit back and watch a movie.
Switch the GPU for a 7950 is budget allows, if not then get a 7870 for £15 more, but far better performance (also remember if this is your very first gaming PC, AMD throws about 4 games at you when you buy one of their GPUs)
Everything else is spot on, but see if you can fit a 128gb ssd into budget aswell, or save for a little longer. SSD's are a world of difference and you'll never go back, trust me.
Good luck on your build dude
I'd switch the monitor for a 24'', since you can get one for basically £10 either way, and it really is nicer to have a bigger screen for those off times you decide to sit back and watch a movie.
Switch the GPU for a 7950 is budget allows, if not then get a 7870 for £15 more, but far better performance (also remember if this is your very first gaming PC, AMD throws about 4 games at you when you buy one of their GPUs)
Everything else is spot on, but see if you can fit a 128gb ssd into budget aswell, or save for a little longer. SSD's are a world of difference and you'll never go back, trust me.
Good luck on your build dude
I have the same processor and motherboard and overclocking it was nice and simple, just got the idea of how to do it from guides around the web and got straight too it. Have it running and 4.2 nice and stable and it handles everything I throw at it including 1080p streaming. Only thing I would say is that overclocking it I would buy an aftermarket cpu cool to keep your mind at ease. Also have just the MSI 660 (NON TI) overclocked edition gpu and handles all my games (crysis2, farcry3 grid 2 etc.) more than well enough at max settings, 1080p.
***EDIT - This was when you were looking at the ASUS P8Z77-V and i5 3570k***
***EDIT - This was when you were looking at the ASUS P8Z77-V and i5 3570k***
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NeverBackDown
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I find it hard to believe a 660 is maxing out farcry3. That game is punishing.
Well even a laptop can max it out. Just the framerate will be terrifying. Way below 30 for the 660 would be my guess.
NeverBackDown
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Ok what i meant was playable and higher than at least 45fps avg.
nah not happening. a 7950 can barely hold 30, so a 660 will do worse.
iBeInspire
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He prolly means maxed, but with no AA.
That would make sense as a ballpark figure...
That would make sense as a ballpark figure...
maxed = maxed
maxed without AA != maxed
even without AA 45+ will be hard to achieve with a 660.
