Illegal downloaders to lose net connection
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The only people who care about this are the people who break the rules.. its like the dispute over CCTV, the only people who mind it being used in town centres are the people who do things wrong.
Personally i dont download music i buy it, ide much rather have the album case etc..
Personally i dont download music i buy it, ide much rather have the album case etc..
Rastalovich
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Emphasis being too that u don`t download from a single source, the theory is if I download something, it`s on my harddrive and the rest of the people wanting to download it get to connect to me aswell as the source I used to get it.
On demand TV stuff uses p2p. BBCiPlayer does.
On demand TV stuff uses p2p. BBCiPlayer does.
Orange already kicked me once for being a complete sod to them. Downloaded 90gb in one month and completely ate up the fair terms policy. ROFL!!
With sky now...running through some third party company. bbnet or something. god knows.
This is complete gayness imho. Its going to be a sort of "Catch me if you can" competition going on. I know it is for me anyways.
And talk about invasion of privacy. Gotta love conspiracy and governments. Good day dream of them walking hand in hand down the road.
I for one wont calm down on my downloading. I pay for it...
With sky now...running through some third party company. bbnet or something. god knows.
This is complete gayness imho. Its going to be a sort of "Catch me if you can" competition going on. I know it is for me anyways.
And talk about invasion of privacy. Gotta love conspiracy and governments. Good day dream of them walking hand in hand down the road.
I for one wont calm down on my downloading. I pay for it...
realitybytes
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name='ionicle' said:
In 2000 RIP Act was passed that forced every UK ISP to install what is known as a black box, the box is basically a way that the government can intercept any information passing through it. The boxes are handled by MI5, feel free to go look it up.
So eveything can be monitored anyway if they wish, and nothing much really you can do about it.
name='sock58' said:
Think you missed the point of the artical, There not on about how much you download, but the illegal items you download.
I'd blame the people who download illigally for the invasion of privacy as its there fault the isp's are doing this in the first place.
didnt miss the point at all, you think that 90gig of stuff was legally downloaded??? 
Everything i download is illegal, Even my operating system is illegal. Damn, pretty soon im going to be illegal i have enough content of burnt dvds and pirated games to give me a lovely fine and put me in for life i think. Ask ham, im sure hes seen my cd case.
I personally think its wrong, they shouldnt stop us or filter us or do anything. We pay for the service, we set up the sites, we go to all the effort to make sure things are virus free working fine...therefore, they should see we go to all that effort just to make things better for us all..
Personally, if i couldnt torrent or even help my fellow downloaders by seeding then i would cry..
Oh,. on that note, has anything being said about uploading??? my computer sends more than it receives....will i be seeing red soon or some lovely fonts typed on a red letter???
ps. sssssssssssssssh...you didnt see what i wrote, XD
Everything i download is illegal, Even my operating system is illegal. Damn, pretty soon im going to be illegal i have enough content of burnt dvds and pirated games to give me a lovely fine and put me in for life i think. Ask ham, im sure hes seen my cd case.
I personally think its wrong, they shouldnt stop us or filter us or do anything. We pay for the service, we set up the sites, we go to all the effort to make sure things are virus free working fine...therefore, they should see we go to all that effort just to make things better for us all..
Personally, if i couldnt torrent or even help my fellow downloaders by seeding then i would cry..
Oh,. on that note, has anything being said about uploading??? my computer sends more than it receives....will i be seeing red soon or some lovely fonts typed on a red letter???
ps. sssssssssssssssh...you didnt see what i wrote, XD
name='sock58' said:didnt miss the point at all, you think that 90gig of stuff was legally downloaded???
Everything i download is illegal, Even my operating system is illegal. Damn, pretty soon im going to be illegal i have enough content of burnt dvds and pirated games to give me a lovely fine and put me in for life i think. Ask ham, im sure hes seen my cd case.
I personally think its wrong, they shouldnt stop us or filter us or do anything. We pay for the service, we set up the sites, we go to all the effort to make sure things are virus free working fine...therefore, they should see we go to all that effort just to make things better for us all..
Personally, if i couldnt torrent or even help my fellow downloaders by seeding then i would cry..
Oh,. on that note, has anything being said about uploading??? my computer sends more than it receives....will i be seeing red soon or some lovely fonts typed on a red letter???
ps. sssssssssssssssh...you didnt see what i wrote, XD
tbh, your a muppet! actually no, i think kermit has more brains. What you said above is about the same as........ a group of people spent months of hard work planning a bank robbery, but becuase they tried so hard the police should just let them role in and steal it all.
I'm just starting to wonder what the future generations are going to be like.
comments blocked or removed??? its not showing. probably a good thing. anyways...ill keep doing as i do.
If i think about then yeah i do see a point behind it and i am worried if one of us were to get caught.
It wouldnt be nice for anyone to have to try to explain where everything came from. Oh well..we shall see what happens.
As iv said before...is anything being said about actually uploading ??
and also i used to think they used what were called buffers on certain lines to filter out and try to control illegal downloading or am i wrong??
If i think about then yeah i do see a point behind it and i am worried if one of us were to get caught.
It wouldnt be nice for anyone to have to try to explain where everything came from. Oh well..we shall see what happens.
As iv said before...is anything being said about actually uploading ??
and also i used to think they used what were called buffers on certain lines to filter out and try to control illegal downloading or am i wrong??
equk
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name='sock58' said:and i knows. similar subject. How will the monitor whats been downloaded though?? Just lucky pick a line and see what they get?
I would've thought they could monitor certain ports to find filenames easy enough.
I seem to remember the BT bloke's email saying something along the lines of, your connection has downloaded various movies via bittorrent - filenames: "Lord Of The Rings (DiVX).avi", "Pirates Of The Carrabean (DiVX).avi"
I'd say it was possible, but as others have said, it might take a lot of resources to do it to everyone, but putting up certain triggers (to flag accounts) on accounts like websites visited etc (plain text), they could then setup more advanced monitoring on those certain accounts rather than wasting resources on everyone.
They could even flag accounts who use a lot of bandwidth (similar to ISPs like enta do already - ie: badboy bottlenecked routing)
realitybytes
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Anti p2p measures are already in place in certain countries check somse of the US ISPs.
What some ISP's have already implemented is measures to cap peoples bandwidth usage with certain protocols mostly the bit torrent traffic. If you look at current technologies inplace you will see it is very easy for them to adapt/create methods to easily detect what is going on. Also anti piracy groups are already actively archiving ip addresses that download and share content on the p2p networks. It doesnt take much imagination to figure out that a case could be built againt an internet subscriber very easily. The only grey area that exists would be is the line subscriber responsible for securing that connection and if the security is breeched how accountable are they for that. This in itself though is a huge issue and no doubt the reason why this will not pass in to law.
With regards to the proxies they are not total anonymity, you still have to have a return address that being the case, makes it possible to anybody with the know-how very easy to find your actual ip.
What some ISP's have already implemented is measures to cap peoples bandwidth usage with certain protocols mostly the bit torrent traffic. If you look at current technologies inplace you will see it is very easy for them to adapt/create methods to easily detect what is going on. Also anti piracy groups are already actively archiving ip addresses that download and share content on the p2p networks. It doesnt take much imagination to figure out that a case could be built againt an internet subscriber very easily. The only grey area that exists would be is the line subscriber responsible for securing that connection and if the security is breeched how accountable are they for that. This in itself though is a huge issue and no doubt the reason why this will not pass in to law.
With regards to the proxies they are not total anonymity, you still have to have a return address that being the case, makes it possible to anybody with the know-how very easy to find your actual ip.
I say target the guys who download "because they can" like literally 100s of gbs a month of illegal content (they mostly brag about it too). They are the ones costing the isp £££ for their bandwidth useage plus alot of them are linked to organised crime etc. which they may be selling on.
I think they will ignore the small time users of illegal content and instead target the big fish - there will always be those who download stupid amounts
I think they will ignore the small time users of illegal content and instead target the big fish - there will always be those who download stupid amounts
Rastalovich
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A little twist in the tale for ya`ll.
The cracking community are against torrents and p2p.
lol
The cracking community are against torrents and p2p.
lol
name='mrapoc' said:
question:
if you own a dvd, say a film, and then download an illigal copy of it on your pc (because your too lazy to go get the disk
) would that be illigal?because its technically just a copy of what you have, and have paid for...
i've downloaded lots of...stuff...before, but in 99.9% of cases, its stuff i own, like i download a whole album, just because i dont wanna scratch my actual disk...
