Help me choose my part for the third rig i'm building

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Unseenfury

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Hello
Dont laugh at my English. my primary language is french.
This is my third system i'm building. Each time i posted here, i bought parts and build a computer.
Last time it was for my wife. This time it a rig for me.


Budget: dollar 2800$
I'll list what i want and can you help me with the rest please.
This computer will remplace an old quad 9550 2.8GHz OC to 3.9 with 4Gb memory DDR3 value ram asus maximus extreme motherboard 650Gb harddrive and a GTX5601GB.
This computer will be for gaming / working / Visual studio / VM / Entertainment, and this computer must at least be good for 4-5 years with no major upgrade.
I'm a TI in a big compagny and i dont have time anymore to invest into gathering information about parts, what is good and what is crap, so if you can help me choosing few part, this will be appreciated
Planning to buy at NCIX or newegg.ca if it availaible there.

CPU: i7 3770k + Corsair cooling system H100 ( i want to overclock it of course ). No AMD for me THX.
Motherboard: LGA2011 or Z77 not even sure what is the best for really long time use.
Memory: At least 32Gb if it possible
i'll like blutooth and wifi adapter if that doesnt come to insane on the price.
Graphic Card: ATI or Nvidia. GTX680 or 7970. no SLI or crossfire for now
Power Supply. Planning on getting a Corsair 1000w or should i get higher or lower?
Harddrive :At least 2 SSD 120Go for raid 0 . I will have my OS on it, Visual Studio 2013, office, and Tera Game. All the rest will be on second harddrive
second harddrive: highest capacity at the lowest cost possible i already have 2 other computers that can hold stuffs, it not a big deal about the space
mid tower: corsair 600T series
Screen: I need 2 screen that are at least 24inch with 2ms for gaming with 60 or 120 Hz refresh.
Thermal paste
Bluray reader ( i already have a bluray burner in my wife rig )
please take your time, it not a race for me to get the part, i will buy them in a week or 2. I dont wanna get shitty part based only on 1 person / review like i did the first time.

Thanks in advance.
 
okay first off nobody will judge you for your english skills, most people don't speak english as their native language here.
You listed LGA2011 or Z77, the first is a socket and the second is a chipset. For the CPU you want a 3770k so you have no choice but to get a z77 mainboard really, the CPU won't fit on a 2011 socket since it's 1155.
For the RAM i'd just use Corsair Vengeance, Kingston HyperX, GSkill or Mushkin RAM, at 1866 or 2133 MHz, CL 9.
Since you said you want to use that PC as a workstation as well i'd get a 670/680 (a good 670 is pretty much nearly as good as a 680, no need to waste money there), the CUDA cores might come in handy.
Even for SLI you don't need more than 750W, but if you really want to be on the save side get a Corsair AX860i. the AX750 should do just fine as well. 1000W and more really is only needed for quad SLi/Crossfire setups.
Get two Corsair Neutron 120GB SSDs.
If you want cheap, high capacity drives get some Seagate Barracuda Drives, they spin at 7200RPM and cost less than a WD Caviar Green.
No idea about screens, blu ray drives or wifi/Bluetooth adapters, i myself really only care about screens of all of those and i haven't really done any research there either, but get 120Hz screens.
And to finish this off, this build will NOT last for 5 years. no rig will. Hardware is developing so fast lately, it is impossible to buy something that will last that long. Moore's law says that PCs become twice as good in about 2 years and really it's faster than that.
 
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Do you know if your 'working' needs will require cuda? Cuda is only obtainable from Nvidia GPU, but the AMD GPU's are more powerful for the same price. That would be something to figure out.
 
Yeah, figuring out which parts are good and which to stay away from can consume a lot of time. I remember when I came out of the military after two years I had absolutely no idea anymore about the state of the PC industry. Took me two months to figure out which way was up :D

4-5 years is indeed very optimistic, I agree on that one. Anyway, a quick primer/my thoughts:

CPU/MB: Intel's has two primary sockets at the moment: 1155 and 2011. Chipsets for 1155 are Z77 (overclocking, what you would want) and some others. The only chipset for the 2011 platform is the X79.

The 3770k is a socket 1155 CPU.

If you wish to use a Socket 2011 mainboard, there are three CPU's you could chose from: The 3820 (4 Cores/8 Threads), which I wouldn't recommend (go for 1155/3770k instead), the 3930k (6C/12T) and the 3970x (6C/12T). I would recommend the 3930k. The 3970x is just way too expensive for what it is. A 3930k and a good motherboard will set you back around 1000 $ to 1200 $ on their own (at least where I live).

Presuming an 1155 platform (much less expensive), the Asus P8Z77-V DELUXE mainboard costs around 270 $ where I live, which is quite expensive for a 1155 motherboard. It does have WiFi and Bluetooth, however, and according to the reviews I've found, seems to be a decent overclocker. It also has a Thunderbolt header for Asus Thunderbolt add-on card.
You can also go for the Pro variant, which is less expensive, but lacks bluetooth. Also, the power delivery system is weaker.

There are of course other manufacturers than Asus, but I have been running their motherboards for the past few years with good experiences and can therefore recommend them. Other people might have more info on alternatives.

GPU: If you don't need the additional cores of the 680, I'd recommend the 670. Performs almost as good as a 680 in games (you can get overclocked models that are almost as fast as a 680 in games).

1000 W PSU is overkill at this point, even for an SLI setup. A 680 uses less than 200 W (on stock clocks), and even if you assume 200 W for CPU and mainboard (utterly too much, on stock clocks it will be around 90 W, maybe 100), you still only get to around 400 ~ 500 W total power consumption. So yeah, I'd follow SeekaX' advice on that one.

Alright, it would appear my dog needs to go outside, so I'll be back later :)
 
Bonjour, comme ca va?
Ou es-ce-que vous habite?

Le Francais n'est pas mon langue originaire, mais j'ettait en l'immersion pout 9 année, je nais pas vraiment entrainé a ce moment, mais je vais esseyer.

Pour cette oridinateur, tu parle de deux chose different, 2011 est le socket, et z77 et le <chipset>.
Le proceesor que vous avez choisissiez est socket 1155, et le chipset est z77, mais, 2011 a deux mille et onze epingle, mais le processor (3770k) a besoin de mille une cent et cinquent cinq epingle. Ce ne va pas marché.

Je ne pense pas que deux <SSD> en RAID 0 va etre un bon ideé (vous ne peux pas utilisé tous le vitesse d'une SSD, at ci une SSD se casse, vous perde tous tes informations).
Mille watt n'est pas nécessaire parce-que vous n'avez pas trois ou quatre <GPUs>.
Voici c'est-ce que je pense que vous devez achetez ci vous avez l'argent pour a bruler:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z77 MPOWER ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($197.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($496.48 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($38.20 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 600T Silver ATX Mid Tower Case ($158.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($55.55 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Full (32/64-bit) ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420TX 120Hz 24.0" Monitor ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420TX 120Hz 24.0" Monitor ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3184.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-14 11:43 EDT-0400)

This is a highend system in a high price point, that's what I'm assuming your looking for, so I post that.

I recommend an XFX PSU because 1, its awesome, I have one and the fan barely ever turns on, and 2, its an OEM SeaSonic. You also said no SLI/Crosfire now, but in the future, you still have enough wattage for it.
I gave you the WD 1.5TB HDD because its the cheapest HDD with the most space (lowest $/GB).
I have you a Lightning card to go with the Mpower, and the Mpower is arguably one of the best mother boards on the market (Tom gave it a Gold award).
I gave Dominator Platinun because it's the most awesome looking stuff, but you can save $100 if you go with Patriot Black Mamba RAM.
I put an 100I instead of an H100 because its cheaper and performs better.
I only gave you one SSD because you will not be able to bottleneck one, so having two in raid 0, you just end up with the chance to loose everything with one failed drive.
The case was put in just as a place holder for the price, I assume you either want the black or the white one.
I gave you Windows 7 Ultimate instead of Windows 8 Pro, because I prefer Windows 7 an Ultimate it the most ultimate OS :P
And you got your two 24" 120Hz monitors.
 
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Thanks everyone for the help. My working doesnt require cuda at all.

I didnt know there was a website helping you with the parts.i choose few part that i gather together. Tell me if it look ok so far or if i should change some parts.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/JFPq

thanks a lot!
 
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I also personally wouldn't get a Gigabyte GPU (Ugly ass heatsink and blue PCB ), I'd rather go for an ASUS, MSI or XFX GPU.
Also, I am a WD fan and they have a 1TB Caviar Blue that's pretty good at the same price as the seagate one you listed.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z77 MPOWER ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($197.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Performance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($405.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 600T White Graphite ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($284.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($284.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2495.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-14 14:25 EDT-0400)
 
motherboard say in the spec Channel Supported : Dual Channel

and the memory say : Quad channel.

Will this mess something or i'm totally out of the way? ^^
 
No, it won't, the motherboard will run them in dual channel configuration. .
From what I know, quad channel RAM (if their is 4 sticks) just means that it can run in quad channel, not that it can only run in quad channel.

So say I buy that quad channel kit and just use one stick, it would be in single channel, if I ran two, it would be dual, and so on so forth.
 
ah thanks ! sold!

thanks for all the help you guys provided me. i will post picture when it will be at my home and rdy to use.
 
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