Help increasing voltage to Memory

Black104

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Ok - I work in 3d animation just finished building my new comp,

got win XP 64bit runnin with just 2 gigs @ in 1 slot --

my 64bit apps (3dsmax 64bit/softimage XSI 64bit) ran good, today i threw in another

2 gigs (total 4 gigs) and now they running a little sketchy ran memtest with no errors.

I have another 4 gigs i havn't thrown in yet.

Now I'm guessing its the ram causing the problems because at work i threw in 6gigs on another computer (MB set to 1.8V also) and my 3d apps are acting the same way (sketchy).

I'm gonna need a little walk-through since i've never done this before and i don't want to kill my ram.

I am dealing with the same ram at work and at home --

CPU is Q6600 @ stock speeds.

MB is GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS4 (rev. 2.1)

CORSAIR 4GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) X 2

Here is the info from CPU-Z:

Chipset & Memory

Module 1 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 2048 MBytes, Corsair

Module 2 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 2048 MBytes, Corsair

Northbridge Intel P35/G33/G31 rev. A2

Southbridge Intel 82801IR (ICH9R) rev. 02

Memory Type DDR2

Memory Size 4096 MBytes

Memory Frequency 400.0 MHz (2:3)

CAS# Latency (tCL) 5.0 clocks

RAS# to CAS# (tRCD) 5 clocks

RAS# Precharge (tRP) 5 clocks

Cycle Time (tRAS) 18 clocks

Command Rate (CR) 2T

FSB:DRAM 2:3

Voltage 1.8V

Corsair specs says : Tested at JEDEC standard latency settings (5-5-5-18) at 1.9V

So waht do you guys think??

Should i be upping the voltage??

Now i dont want to over-clock my ram i just want it to run like it should.

Thanks!

Black
 
OK i went into the bios and found where i can change my timings-

What does tightening up the timings mean -- does it mean to lower them??

Can i lower the timming without changing voltage?

I've never over-clocked or messed with the bios before so be gentle :)

Thanks!

Balck
 
Tightening the timings if a form of overclocking. ;)

Could you explain what you mean by sketchy? Usually if ram isn't getting enough voltage it will freeze.
 
you gave the answer yourself mate

"Voltage 1.8V

Corsair specs says : Tested at JEDEC standard latency settings (5-5-5-18) at 1.9V "

you need to set the voltage up a touch
 
name='Toxcity' said:
Tightening the timings if a form of overclocking. ;)

Could you explain what you mean by sketchy? Usually if ram isn't getting enough voltage it will freeze.

In Softimage XSI 64bit my 3D viewports Skip and lag a bit and 3DSmax

64bit will just crash after a while.

Thanks.

Black
 
name='nepas' said:
you gave the answer yourself mate

"Voltage 1.8V

Corsair specs says : Tested at JEDEC standard latency settings (5-5-5-18) at 1.9V "

you need to set the voltage up a touch

I can't seem to find where to change my voltage, what title/setting would it be under?

So i would not have to change the timings right? just the voltage?

Sorry i'm a little slow on the uptake with this stuff.

Thanks!

Black
 
here you go mate just found a nice little read for you:

"

First, I assume no responsibility for anyones overclocking exploits using this little write up. This is meant only to teach the basics of overclocking with this setup and my options will not work for everyone. I have a pretty extensive watercooling setup, so please keep that in mind. I recommend no higher than 3.4Ghz on air just because I don't like temps getting high. So, with the legal kinda stuff out of the way, let's start!

Ok, here is the lowdown (remember, I'm not an expert) on overclocking a Q6600 CPU and Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 Rev.2 Motherboard. First consideration anyone must take is cooling. Without proper cooling, the heat caused by overclocking will greatly reduce the life of your CPU or even worse, fry it. There are many great air coolers out there and if one wants to get even higher overclocks, watercooling is another option. On air, I would not try to go over 3.4Ghz, if even that high. With that out of the way, lets take a look at the important BIOS screens and explain what each option does in order and show you what my settings are. (at least the ones I know/I will be skipping the options that don't deal with overclocking or are self explanatory/pictures are below)(Remember, I am at 3.8Ghz, which is not recommended on air, so not all of your options will match mine):

1. Main BIOS Screen:

- Only thing to discuss about this screen are how to enable the

advanced options. While on the main screen, press CTRL+F1 to enable

advanced options under the M.I.T. section of your BIOS.

2. Advanced BIOS Features:

- HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability: Enabled (Checks for problems with your HDD's)

- CPU Hyper Threading: Enabled (Q6600 can support, so leave enabled)

- Limit CPU I.D. Max. to 3: Disabled (Only enabled for older OS's)

- No-Execute Memory Protect: Enabled (Not sure, left at default)

- CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E): Disabled (Lowers FSB when computer is at idle)

- CPU Thermal Monitor (TM2): Disabled (CPU Overheating Protection, use

coretemp or something similar instead and do it yourself)

- CPU EIST Function: Disabled (Lowers VCore and FSB to reduce power

consumption)

- Virtualization Technology: Enabled (Enables you to run multiple OS's)

- Init Display First: PEG (Sets what display initializes first. If using your

PCI-E 16x slot, set to PEG)

* C1E, TM2, and EIST are all power saving functions. To help produce a stable overclock, these must be disabled in the beginning.*

3. MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.): The most important page, the OC page!

- Robust Graphics Booster: Auto (Up's graphics performance, leave at

default Auto)

- CPU Clock Ratio: 9X (Sets the multiplier for the CPU. Multiplying this by

the CPU Host Frequency gives you your CPU Ghz. I like to leave mine at

9X, but it is all preference and what works the best for you)

- CPU Host Clock Control: Enabled (Let's you adjust you CPU Host

Frequency (Mhz) )

- CPU Host Frequency: ? (Set at what you want to achieve. Remember,

times this number by whatever you Clock Ratio is to achieve the OC you

want. I'm at 3798Mhz so I have mine set at 422 because 422 x 9 =

3800.)

- PCI Express Frequency (Mhz): 100 (Adjusts your PCI-E frequency. 100

seems to work the best for me, which is default, but I set it myself)

- C.I.A.2: Disabled (Auto overclocking when your computer is under load,

not very good. You can't have this set while you manually overclock,

won't be stable.)

- Performance Enhance: Standard (Another auto overclocking tool. Leave

at Standard for the same reason as above.)

- System Memory Multiplier (SPD): ? (sets the ratio of FSB:Ram. Will

depend on what your CPU Host Frequency is set at. For CPU

overclocking, try to keep it as close to your Memory's rated speed as

possible. After you get your CPU stable, you can mess with it. Use the +

and - keys to go thru the options. At 2.00 with my FSB of 422, I get 844

which is as close as I can get to my rated 800Mhz Mushkin memory.

Anything higher than that and my computer becomes unstable.

Remember, set this as close to stock memory speed as possible before

saving and rebooting.)

- Memory Frequency: ? (Will change based on the setting you use above.

This is what you want to try and have as close to your stock memory

freq as possible.)

- High Speed DRAM DLL Settings: Option 1 (No idea, just left at default)

- DRAM Timing Selectable: Auto (This is what you enable to adjust your

memory timings and such. Leave on Auto until you get a stable CPU

overclock then you can adjust these.)

*These below options are the most important. While adjusting these watch your temps very carefully. The max I recommend going on a Q6600 for VCore is 1.6V, at that's only with outstanding cooling.*

- System Voltage Control: Manual (Allows you to adjust your voltages)

- DDR2 OverVoltage Control: ? (Adjusts the voltage to your RAM. Find out

what your RAM is rated for and adjust till you get the voltage there. Use

a program like Everest to watch the voltage. My Mushkin RAM is rated

for 2.1V so I added +.30 to get it there. Our motherboard is set at 1.8V

default.)

- PCI-E OverVoltage Control: Normal (Controls the voltage to your PCI-E

Bus. Leave at Normal.)

- FSB OverVoltage Control: ? (Controls the voltage to your FSB. Useful to

raise if you can't get a stable overclock while raising VCore. This also

raises your temps less than raising VCore does.)

- (G)MCH OverVoltage Control: ? (Raises the voltage going to your Chipset.

Also assists in making an overclock stable but only in more extreme

overclocking situations. I did not need to raise this until I was at 3.6Ghz

and above.)

- CPU Voltage Control: ? (Also known as VCore. This raises the amount of

voltage actually going to your CPU. This is the most important voltage

control in terms of overclocking. I recommend never raising this above

1.5V on air and 1.6V on water, the less the better though as the higher

this is the more heat your CPU will produce. Remember, what the BIOS

says is not extremely accurate due to VDroop. VDroop is where the

voltage that is loss as it moves from the power supply to the CPU just

as a car engine loses horsepower as it moves from the engine to the

wheels itself. Use Everest or a program like it to find your actual VCore.

As an example, my VCore in the BIOS is set at 1.525V but on Everest it

is actually only 1.48V.)

- Normal CPU Vcore: 1.30000V (Shows what the stock VCore is, does not

matter really as this will never change.)

Well, that is about it for overclocking in the BIOS. So, here is the best way to overclock in my opinion: First, disable all of the power saving features that I discussed above and adjust your BIOS accordingly. Second, set the FSB Frequency and Multiplier to what you want to achieve. (As an example, 9X Multiplier and 355 FSB Frequency to achieve 3.2Ghz) Next, save and reboot and see if you can POST and start Windows. If that works, run a program like OCCT and see if it is stable at 100% load. If it won't POST or remain stable, raise your CPU Voltage (VCore) one step and repeat. Keep doing this until you reach a nice stable setup. Once you feel like it is stable, run OCCT for a minimum of 6 hours (I recommend overnight) and make sure it is completely stable as sometimes it will take hours before it crashes. Remember to watch your temps. Anything over 65C in my opinion is not safe and definitely not worth the risk. After about 20-30 mins your temps should not go up anymore so you don't have to stay up all night watching them. (Also, with OCCT, if you start CoreTemp then go to custom setup on OCCT and select CoreTemp for monitoring, you can set a cut off temp and it will shut down the test if it ever goes over that temp.)

Here is what my setting were at to reach certain overclocks (Just as an example):

3.2Ghz:

CPU Clock Ratio: 9X

CPU Host Frequency: 355

System Voltage Control: Manual

DDR2 OverVoltage Control: +.30

PCI-E OverVoltage Control: Normal

FSB OverVoltage Control: Normal

(G)MCH OverVoltage Control: Normal

CPU Voltage Control (which is your VCore): 1.325

3.6Ghz:

CPU Clock Ratio: 9X

CPU Host Frequency: 400

System Voltage Control: Manual

DDR2 OverVoltage Control: +.30

PCI-E OverVoltage Control: Normal

FSB OverVoltage Control: +.15

(G)MCH OverVoltage Control: Normal

CPU Voltage Control (which is your VCore): 1.45

3.8Ghz:

CPU Clock Ratio: 9X

CPU Host Frequency: 422

System Voltage Control: Manual

DDR2 OverVoltage Control: +.30

PCI-E OverVoltage Control: Normal

FSB OverVoltage Control: +.20

(G)MCH OverVoltage Control: +.20

CPU Voltage Control (which is your VCore): 1.525"

source:http://www.overclockingwiki.org/forums/showthread.php?p=22827
 
Ok i upped my DDR2 overvoltage control up by +.10 to get it to 1.9V but in CPU-Z and Everest still says its 1.8V .

Just went back into the bios clicked on PC health status and my DDR18V is reading - 1.936V .

So is it set?

Did i miss something?? Is their anything else i should increase??

Why is Everest and CPU-Z not reading 1.9V??

Thanks!

Black
 
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