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[Bungral]

The overclock HWC had in their review wasnt an illusion.. they ran benches on it.

 

[nyenthrodumy]

I take back what I said

 

[Rastalovich]

When Nvidia originally sent out Beta versions of the 480 it was slower and cooler than the actual one that was released. However, they realised it was slower than the 5870 and that would have been a foolish release to make.

Well, in fairness the original cards we had (without the stock cooler that surfaced) in the Gf10x range, in what could have been a theoretical 380, the performances were off the scale. Admittedly so were the 5xxx series.

What we/you need to appreciate is that the gpus (from the main two, not necessarily Intel) themselves are capable of performing a heck of a load better than they do when released. As far as the companies are concerned, they want to beat their own existing cards by a certain %age of their own benches and really have no bearing on whether card-A will compare with the competitors' card-B. The main 2 really have 2 different trains of thought as to what they're trying to achieve. The comparison in terms of camping for a side is really a game being played by online sites. Being fed usually by pr people in suits, quite often fails in terms of the realities.

So the existing bare gpu can perform massively better in the lab than an existing card they had. They then make cuts to it to bring the %ages down to a 'manageable' level, generally 10-25%. Then black-tape a piece of plastic onto it to cool it sufficiently. All really to do with financial benefits and eyeing up future sales.

The initial 480 cards sent out to reviewers weren't flashed with the correct bios for some of the changes made, and to their downfall, the reviewers held onto the results for these cards as a 'set-in-stone' verdict as to what the cards are like. Temps of 90+. In contrast, once flashed and the vuvuzela?? of a cooler taken off it, the temps even when overclocked alot, will rarely go over 75 on air. Or if you like, the cards that are on the shelves now. In the past, the reviewers would have sorted this out for themselves, especially the enthusiasts. But it did take a whole load of time for the overclocking experts to get some really good figures out of them. Previously this would never of happened with the likes of the G80, there were massive amounts of people paying £500+ for these and taming them themselves.

What I'd personally have relied on in the past was for the enthusiast to disassemble all this crap holding the gpu back and unleash it. Doesn't tend to happen as much as it used to.

It's difficult to comment too much, but the coming AMD cards are special themselves. It'll be a neat trick to see them before christmas tho.

 

[Bungral]

Perhaps because 3DMark scores mean sweet FA and it performs where it matters, on FPS?

From the reviews I've seen the card still runs pretty dang hot and 3dmark score is like 20k, I'm getting like 18k on my 6870 for half price. I don't see how anyone can justify buying one of these. Maybe it's just me, but I see this as another failed nvidia card.

 

[alienware]

once flashed and the vuvuzela?? of a cooler taken off it

Congatulations. I almost just spat a huge mouthful of coffee all over my desk.

Brilliant

Perhaps because 3DMark scores mean sweet FA and it performs where it matters, on FPS?

Ne'er a truer word spoken. As the months go by I begin to realise more and more just how stupid Vantage is.