gigabyte-P67A-UD7 SLI with two 590 GTX HELP

[Patrickl]

Hi

I have been thinking about byuing a new computer for about a year. I have been wondering about buying my new motherboard and I think that

gigabyte-P67A-UD7-B3 is a good choice with an unlocked i5 2500k but here is my concern. It would be nice that if I could go 3D souround I have thought off going SLI with two 590 GTX but the gigabyte is only certified to be triple SLI ready but I have been reading that it does not matter as long as you only use two PCI xpress landes it would support cuatro SLI and also what happens if I put my soundcard(Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD) into the mix and if anybody could tell me about CPU bottle neck would it not only occurs if you have extremly high frames 150 and above so that if you have a 3D souround set up with high revelution it would'nt be a concern you are only looking at perhaps 60-70 frames.just another questions If i want the i5 2500k to be clocked at 5 ghz what would be the most optimum ram speed and timing?

Your time and effort would be highly appriciatet.

 

[Chuby123]

Dude if your spending that much money buy the i7 2600k

 

[Patrickl]

Dude if your spending that much money buy the i7 2600k

Year I have been thinking about it but then I have reading about that the P67 chipset would support the new Ivy Bridge with a BIOS upddate then you could buy a new CPU and the reason why I want an unlocked I5 GHZ is that I would have less bottle neck issues. But then again I am a complety noob and all my information and knowledge is found on the internet so not very deep.

 

[Ya93sin]

Is two 590's particularly worth it? After all, 2x580's (of which you have on one 590 albeit at lower clocks), should be able to do the job fine.

Also, the other side factors you have to consider:

• Heat/Noise from the GPU(s)
• You have to have at least a 1.2/1.2kW PSU, and a very good one at that to avoid component damage
• You will need a high airflow case, with good fans, and you probably will end up with a loud-ish PC unless you went for watercooling
• Watercooling that set up with 2 590s would be very costly, unless money is no object for you...

IMO, best idea is to get a very good variant of the 590, which is overclocked but quiet, then you should still get enough performance (IMO depending on resolution it should be easily enough performance) for your needs.

 

[jack-uk]

Patrick save yourself the money of 2 590 you don't need them for 3D surround go with two 580 or a single 590, I doubt the CPU would bottleneck I mean the 2500K and 2600K when it comes to gaming the results are hardly noticeable also take a look at Ya93sin reply all the things that you need to bear-in-mind.

 

[S_I_N]

2 590's are just for e-peen and benching they would do nothing to improve your experiences at all. Just a waste of $$$$ if you want the best sli experience then go with 2 580's and save urself alot of bling and headaches. hell even 2 570's will be better. That being said. spend the $$$ on other things that will improve overall performance for a whole case scenario.

 

[Tortuga]

2 590's are just for e-peen and benching they would do nothing to improve your experiences at all. Just a waste of $ if you want the best sli experience then go with 2 580's and save urself alot of bling and headaches. hell even 2 570's will be better. That being said. spend the $ on other things that will improve overall performance for a whole case scenario.

Agreed, Your better off with what SIN said, two 570s overclocked gets my vote. Take the extra money and buy a nice big SSD drive. That will make more noticeable speed when it comes to response times, and overall snappy-ness. Maybe even a 970.

 

[Patrickl]

Thanks everybody for all your answers.

OK I do not wish to show off and spend more money then needed but I thought that I should use this much force with and

resolution of 5760×1080 på http://www.guru3d.com/article/triple-monitor-gaming-on-geforce-gtx-590-and-radeon-6990/12 og http://3dvision-blog.com/testing-3d-vision-surround-on-3x-24-inch-acer-gd245hq-monitors/ I read that ffs falt down to 44 ffs and with invida 3D Vision Surround to 25 ffs and if I would go up to 60 ffs sould I have the two 590 (but if I could use two MSI GeForce GTX 580 Lightning i would behappy ).

But my goal is to buy a computer now while I have the money and if I should later begin to study then I should only use money to buy a new grafic card for exemple when the new direct 13-14 comes out and a ivy bridge with 8 cores that way I would have a good pc which can last a long time for in my prepective a ivy bridgewith 8 cores with HyperThreading can be used for a long time and as things are now Ivy bridge would last a pretty long time before it gets out dated (proformance wise). So the parts I have been thinking about buying is:

RAVEN RV03 Intel Core i5 2500K prolimatech (ivy bridge with 8 cores) SUPER MEGA gigabyte-P67A-UD7 Intel Solid State 510 SSD 250GB Western Digital 1500 GB Black 64 MB (ram ???)

 

[wotevajjjj]

not trying to be rude here, but the system you're talking bout is useless.

get the raven, it's awsome, and go for 580sli, get some kingston ssd and ram, the best psu you can find and a rampage or ud7

 

[Patrickl]

Thank you very much for your answer.

I spend a lot of time investigating my project so is it possible that you could deepen you answer?

Thank you very much for your help.

 

[SnW]

Dude if your spending that much money buy the i7 2600k

Dude if you reply at least say hexcore.

 

[Patrickl]

help would be highly appriciatet thx

 

[Karlos_the_n00b]

If it was me then I wouldn't use two 590's in the UD7. IMO the UD7 is a 6 slot board (you can't count the x1 PCI-E slot cus you can't really use it cus of the heat sink its next to) designed to support TRI-SLI/CF which means that the 590's would be bang up against each other and even in a Raven I'd still be too worried about the top card not having enough air flow.

If you really felt you must go for 2 590's then I think you'd be better looking at the MSI BBM which I think will still fit in the RV03 (but look nowehere near as good as the UD7 would in it imho) and would give much better air flow for both cards.

If you wanted a UD7 build (and what non sandy hater wouldn't

) then for the money you're talking about then I'd go with something like:

RV03 (good cooling and colours match the board)

2500K (You pay more for the 2600K cus it has twice as many threads which won't really matter when gaming)

UD7 (Only Sandy board I've seen get the performance award from OC3D and the colours look sick)

2x MSI GTX 580 Lightning (like I need to justify these)

(Edit: but I've decided I'm going to anyway. There probably the best 580's there are and also have the best coolers which you are going to need because of the cards being next to each other. They also have the great overclock potential so you should be able to get some truly great FPS with them)

AX 1200 (or AX 850 if people here think you could get away with it, but double check that they will fit the RV03)

Titan fenrir evo (Its performance is good but basically it would look amazing!) http://www.hardwareh...stallation.html

Memory, anything decent in black

If you have enough left then go for a Vertex 3 ssd

This is my personal preference. I'm not saying it would be the best thing to do as I would never be so bold to say something like that anyway.

Hope this helps

EDIT: Forgot to add, you wouldn't want to add a PCI-E sound card to a UD7 as I think that would drop the second card down to x8 bandwidth which you may not want to do as running multi displays is about the only time you really benefit from x16/x16. As your'd most likely be running just one monitor from the second card then you might not see any real performance drop from x16/x8 but you'd have to run some tests to find out the truth in that. I'd like to say that if you added a PCI-E x1 sound card then you'd be running SLI at x16/x15, but I don't think it works like that

If I'm wrong then please tell me! If you use a traditional PCI sound card though that would be fine. You'd have no performance drops running 2 GPU's and a PCI-E sound card in the BBM however.

 

[tinytomlogan]

2x 590 is utterly pointless. 2x 580's will have higher frame rates in most games.

 

[cbiltsouris]

1 590 is pointless, 2 580s is WICKED

 

[chriswatton]

If it was me then I wouldn't use two 590's in the UD7. IMO the UD7 is a 6 slot board (you can't count the x1 PCI-E slot cus you can't really use it cus of the heat sink its next to) designed to support TRI-SLI/CF which means that the 590's would be bang up against each other and even in a Raven I'd still be too worried about the top card not having enough air flow.

If you really felt you must go for 2 590's then I think you'd be better looking at the MSI BBM which I think will still fit in the RV03 (but look nowehere near as good as the UD7 would in it imho) and would give much better air flow for both cards.

If you wanted a UD7 build (and what non sandy hater wouldn't

) then for the money you're talking about then I'd go with something like:

RV03 (good cooling and colours match the board)

2500K (You pay more for the 2600K cus it has twice as many threads which won't really matter when gaming)

UD7 (Only Sandy board I've seen get the performance award from OC3D and the colours look sick)

2x MSI GTX 580 Lightning (like I need to justify these)

(Edit: but I've decided I'm going to anyway. There probably the best 580's there are and also have the best coolers which you are going to need because of the cards being next to each other. They also have the great overclock potential so you should be able to get some truly great FPS with them)

AX 1200 (or AX 850 if people here think you could get away with it, but double check that they will fit the RV03)

Titan fenrir evo (Its performance is good but basically it would look amazing!) http://www.hardwareh...stallation.html

Memory, anything decent in black

If you have enough left then go for a Vertex 3 ssd

This is my personal preference. I'm not saying it would be the best thing to do as I would never be so bold to say something like that anyway.

Hope this helps

EDIT: Forgot to add, you wouldn't want to add a PCI-E sound card to a UD7 as I think that would drop the second card down to x8 bandwidth which you may not want to do as running multi displays is about the only time you really benefit from x16/x16. As your'd most likely be running just one monitor from the second card then you might not see any real performance drop from x16/x8 but you'd have to run some tests to find out the truth in that. I'd like to say that if you added a PCI-E x1 sound card then you'd be running SLI at x16/x15, but I don't think it works like that

If I'm wrong then please tell me! If you use a traditional PCI sound card though that would be fine. You'd have no performance drops running 2 GPU's and a PCI-E sound card in the BBM however.

The Corsair AX 850 is fine with the UD7, 2600K @4.5GHz and 2x580's in SLI

 

[Karlos_the_n00b]

The Corsair AX 850 is fine with the UD7, 2600K @4.5GHz and 2x580's in SLI

That's a PCI-E sound card at the bottom isn't it? Mind me asking what bandwidth your second 580 runs at?

Also, how hot does that first card get? Notice you have a fan just in front of it. Thinking now that saying that you need a twin frozr when the cards are so close was highly inaccurate

P.S. that rig looks mint btw

 

[chriswatton]

The top 580, according to GPUZ runs at x16 and the lower 580 runs at x8. I did try it with just the 2 GPU's running in x16 mode, but to be honest, there's no difference - so I put the Zonar Essence STX back in (as I listen to radio/music when working all day). Below that, in a standard PCI slot is a wireless card. I changed the standard fans to SS AP's, but didn't realise the frames were silver....

I epoxied the other fan to the spare HDD tray to help cool the GPU's - seems to work fine, even when playing games (and 3-D CAD work) for hours.

The PC is used for work all day, and games at night - the PSU has been absolutely fine with zero problems.

 

[Karlos_the_n00b]

The top 580, according to GPUZ runs at x16 and the lower 580 runs at x8. I did try it with just the 2 GPU's running in x16 mode, but to be honest, there's no difference - so I put the Zonar Essence STX back in (as I listen to radio/music when working all day). Below that, in a standard PCI slot is a wireless card. I changed the standard fans to SS AP's, but didn't realise the frames were silver....

I epoxied the other fan to the spare HDD tray to help cool the GPU's - seems to work fine, even when playing games (and 3-D CAD work) for hours.

The PC is used for work all day, and games at night - the PSU has been absolutely fine with zero problems.

Coolio. How many monitors do you use, if you don't mind all these questions?

From what I've read, the difference between x16/x16 and x8/x8 is only noticeable when running multi display setups. On a single display there is absolutely no noticeable performance difference. Obviously your running 16x/x8 and I have no idea how that fits in to things

 

[chriswatton]

I only use 2 displays when working (one for 2 and 3-d CAD work and one for Quark Xpress - a 27" and a 22" respectively) - but not for gaming; it is nice to play Civ 5 with all the bells and whistles, even when past 300+ turns.

However, I have become addicted to World of Tanks - I think the PC's a bit overspecced for that..

And for the OP - the UD7 is a great board (B3 - although there was nothing wrong with the original UD7, TBH)

Oh yes - full spec;

2600K@4.5GHz

H70 cooler

256GB Crucial C300 SSD

2TB WD SATA3 HDD (for games and Steam catalogue..)

2TB Samsung Spinpoint (for work files)

8GB Corsair 1600MHz RAM

Asus Essence STX sound card

Linksys WMP600N-EU Wireless PCI Adapter

Coarsair AX 850 PSU

2x EVGA GTX 580's in SLU

Samsung BR drive

Corsair 600T case

Windows 7 Ultimate (for the foreign languade packs - need Italian and French..)

Logitech G9x mouse (great for work, too!)