EVGA P55 Classified Memory HELP

What memory would you think most appropriate, and why if possible!

  • Mushkin - Enhanced Blackline DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Timing 7-7-6-18 / 1.8v

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • G.SKILL - DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Timing 9-9-9-24 / 1.5v

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • G.SKILL - Ripjaws Series DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Timing 9-9-9-24-2N / 1.5v

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Crucial - Ballistix Tracer DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Timing 8-8-8-24 / 1.65v

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • OTHER - Please specify which one and why if possible

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    0
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denis6902

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Right bois,

Need to get going with my build, and part of the enthusiasm process i need to get parts ordered soon.

Motherboard choice for now is the EVGA P55 Classified

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Please help me out voting on what memory you think would be most appropriate.

If you have a different opinion than any of the choices on the poll, please take a time to say why you would chose OTHER, and it would be very much appropriate to say why and which if possible.

All kits are 2 x 2GB unbuffered Kits btw

1. Mushkin



2. G.skill



3. G.skill Ripjaws



4. Good Old Crucial



Regards in advance to all!
 
I put my self down for the crucial basically because I have used memory from the ballistix line and had good results, but I have heard good things from Mushkin
 
Other: Corsair Dominators because they are simply awesome. My mate had no problem getting the 1600Mhz dominators running at 1866. He OC'ed his i7-860 to 4ghz.
 
OK, been trying to sieve things a little bit, and give this thread a fresh start (Please forget the modules from the pool)

Shall we start from scratch again? Its also time to include price possibilities since the Filter money-mode is ON now

Option 1:

G.Skill Ripjaws Series - CL7 7-7-7-21 1.65v (8GB 2x 4GB kits) = 8x 2GB modules

260USD for 8GB (~ 32.5USD p/ GB)

Option 2:

G.Skill ECO Series - CL7 7-8-7-24 1.35v (8GB 2x 4GB kits) = 8x 2GB modules

240USD for 8GB (~ 30USD p/ GB)

Option 3:

Mushkin Enhanced Redline - CL6 6-7-6-18 1.65v (12GB 2x 6GB Kits) = 12x 2GB modules "I loose 2 extra modules / maybe sells after"

500USD for 12GB - 375USD 8GB (~ 41.6USD p/ GB)

Question 1:

Now, would option 1 and 3 be a limited idea since the Vmax limits the memory channels to 1.65v not giving much room for further overclocking voltage tweaks? Or I am not fully with it yet?

Question 2:

Based on the 1st question, would the option 2 be the smartest choice since the modules have fair good timings compared against option 1 but having a lower voltage (1.35v) which could facilitate further overclocking? Or I am not fully with it yet?

Question 3:

Based on the previous questions, would the option 3 be worth the extra money for CL6 modules when i am going to have 2 extra modules to spare? Remembering that they are also 1.65v! Or I am still not with it at all?

Thanks once again for all helping me out figuring what could the best and smartest choice for my build.
 
name='denis6902' said:
OK, been trying to sieve things a little bit, and give this thread a fresh start (Please forget the modules from the pool)

Shall we start from scratch again? Its also time to include price possibilities since the Filter money-mode is ON now

Option 1:

G.Skill Ripjaws Series - CL7 7-7-7-21 1.65v (8GB 2x 4GB kits) = 8x 2GB modules

260USD for 8GB (~ 32.5USD p/ GB)

Option 2:

G.Skill ECO Series - CL7 7-8-7-24 1.35v (8GB 2x 4GB kits) = 8x 2GB modules

240USD for 8GB (~ 30USD p/ GB)

Option 3:

Mushkin Enhanced Redline - CL6 6-7-6-18 1.65v (12GB 2x 6GB Kits) = 12x 2GB modules "I loose 2 extra modules / maybe sells after"

500USD for 12GB - 375USD 8GB (~ 41.6USD p/ GB)

Question 1:

Now, would option 1 and 3 be a limited idea since the Vmax limits the memory channels to 1.65v not giving much room for further overclocking voltage tweaks? Or I am not fully with it yet?

Question 2:

Based on the 1st question, would the option 2 be the smartest choice since the modules have fair good timings compared against option 1 but having a lower voltage (1.35v) which could facilitate further overclocking? Or I am not fully with it yet?

Question 3:

Based on the previous questions, would the option 3 be worth the extra money for CL6 modules when i am going to have 2 extra modules to spare? Remembering that they are also 1.65v! Or I am still not with it at all?

Thanks once again for all helping me out figuring what could the best and smartest choice for my build.
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I know one thing... option 3 would be foolish since that is a triple channel kit and thus meant for x58. Remember that P55 = dual channel. So why not just go for a faster dual channel kit?

And as for the 1.65 volt thing... pretty much all high end kits run on 1.65v and hit up to 2133mhz so I don't think that makes much difference. My friend's Dominators have a stock speed of 1600 Mhz @ 1.65v but he has no problems setting them to 1866Mhz and he could probably go further but he hasn't tried.
 
name='killablade' said:
I know one thing... option 3 would be foolish since that is a triple channel kit and thus meant for x58. Remember that P55 = dual channel. So why not just go for a faster dual channel kit?

And as for the 1.65 volt thing... pretty much all high end kits run on 1.65v and hit up to 2133mhz so I don't think that makes much difference. My friend's Dominators have a stock speed of 1600 Mhz @ 1.65v but he has no problems setting them to 1866Mhz and he could probably go further but he hasn't tried.
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name='*******ndy' said:
3 sticks make triple channel, 2 sticks make dual channel. With 4 sticks you have 2 dual channel sets and you could sell the other 2 sticks. That is, if you have enough cash ;)
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Some in another forum said that is is very possible. I also was a little confused, as i always thought manufacturers would definitely focus on chipset, memory map channels and so on to manufacture the modules.

Thanks Killa, but the corsair are very expensive at the moment, not an option otherwise a sponsor Kit is offered :)
 
Cheaper Mobo + better RAM.

Classified? Really? Why? Unless you're going lunatic with graphics it's pointlessly expensive. And if you've enough money for tri-sli or quadfire, why scrimp on the RAM?
 
name='VonBlade' said:
Cheaper Mobo + better RAM.

Classified? Really? Why? Unless you're going lunatic with graphics it's pointlessly expensive. And if you've enough money for tri-sli or quadfire, why scrimp on the RAM?
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Definitely a +1 on that. And if you've got that much money why not go with X58 in the first place?
 
To be honest i really want to get a decent and reliable mobo this time.

I wouldnt be 100% up for other manufacturers. I think I am quite traumatized since my last build, where i had to RMA mobo for almost a whole year. Despite that, I wont really have the time neither the patience to be RMA*ing mobo back and forward like i did in the past.

EVGA seems to be making rock solid components. Besides it is rare to hear their products being RMA`ed with a certain consistency.

Why not X58? Truthfully, It could be an X58 3-way sli Classified. However i think i will end up ever more going X58.

Real plan is to get enough horsepower so i can get the most out the workstation applications i will use. But i cant go Xeon or two Xeon + Tesla workstation gpu`s, thats just way over of what i could ever afford.

I could for go with another EVGA 1156 or even other x58 models, but i promised myself a decent setup, besides....the case i am building, deserves every high end component out there. So its a no go for a cheap mobo.

The plan is to get two 295`s so i can water them as i have the money too, with the aim of adding more as i can afford, so it can fold lots when idle. But to be realistic and honest, i am waiting for the Fermi`s reviews and prices. So if affordable to start with and better then the single pcb`s 295s, great. Either way, if Fermi`s are not what we all expect, it will definitely drop 295s price, which is also good for me.

So the plan is as i said start with two and watercool them as i can afford, and as time passes and my piggy gets fatter with the feeding coins, i will attempt to complete the other empty pci-e slots with POWERRRRRRRRR!
 
name='denis6902' said:
To be honest i really want to get a decent and reliable mobo this time.

I wouldnt be 100% up for other manufacturers. I think I am quite traumatized since my last build, where i had to RMA mobo for almost a whole year. Despite that, I wont really have the time neither the patience to be RMA*ing mobo back and forward like i did in the past.

EVGA seems to be making rock solid components. Besides it is rare to hear their products being RMA`ed with a certain consistency.

Why not X58? Truthfully, It could be an X58 3-way sli Classified. However i think i will end up ever more going X58.

Real plan is to get enough horsepower so i can get the most out the workstation applications i will use. But i cant go Xeon or two Xeon + Tesla workstation gpu`s, thats just way over of what i could ever afford.

I could for go with another EVGA 1156 or even other x58 models, but i promised myself a decent setup, besides....the case i am building, deserves every high end component out there. So its a no go for a cheap mobo.

The plan is to get two 295`s so i can water them as i have the money too, with the aim of adding more as i can afford, so it can fold lots when idle. But to be realistic and honest, i am waiting for the Fermi`s reviews and prices. So if affordable to start with and better then the single pcb`s 295s, great. Either way, if Fermi`s are not what we all expect, it will definitely drop 295s price, which is also good for me.

So the plan is as i said start with two and watercool them as i can afford, and as time passes and my piggy gets fatter with the feeding coins, i will attempt to complete the other empty pci-e slots with POWERRRRRRRRR!
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If all the components you're going to use are high-end... why go cheap on the ram? Makes no sense to me.
 
And if you're gonna lay the best part of 800 notes on graphics for a system, you'd be a mug not to go for something like an ASUS WS or Gigabyte UD7 X58 and take advantage of triple-channel with some OCZ Blade, Geil Dragon or Corsair Dominator. Then if you're really flush you can go Hex i7 in time
 
name='killablade' said:
If all the components you're going to use are high-end... why go cheap on the ram? Makes no sense to me.
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It is not a point of going cheap on RAM, not at all. Point is that comparing GB p/ USD vs quality, corsair dominators arent doing a parameter justice for comparison in my opinion.

Why do you think G.Skill, Mushkin, GEIL, etc are not high end components for you? It doesn`t mean something cheaper is worst. My pursue is to achieve a solid setup.

If you take a Ferrari for example. It will be indeed more expensive then a Porche, but it doesnt mean Ferrari is better built or that it has a better performance. In the end it all comes to what the product will be most use for, i think.

name='VonBlade' said:
And if you're gonna lay the best part of 800 notes on graphics for a system, you'd be a mug not to go for something like an ASUS WS or Gigabyte UD7 X58 and take advantage of triple-channel with some OCZ Blade, Geil Dragon or Corsair Dominator. Then if you're really flush you can go Hex i7 in time
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Ye i know that. Problem is I love asus too much, but if i can avoid it, i will, that is due to RMA support! Gigabyte is cool, but i personally have something against blue colours, just isn`t for me i am afraid.

I am also thinking of waiting for your review for the Rampage III Extreme, since i am waiting for the fermi to arrive, it could be a good idea to wait for newer mobos to come too. Btw, did u mean the Asus WS X58?
 
name='denis6902' said:
It is not a point of going cheap on RAM, not at all. Point is that comparing GB p/ USD vs quality, corsair dominators arent doing a parameter justice for comparison in my opinion.

Why do you think G.Skill, Mushkin, GEIL, etc are not high end components for you? It doesn`t mean something cheaper is worst. My pursue is to achieve a solid setup.

If you take a Ferrari for example. It will be indeed more expensive then a Porche, but it doesnt mean Ferrari is better built or that it has a better performance. In the end it all comes to what the product will be most use for, i think.

Ye i know that. Problem is I love asus too much, but if i can avoid it, i will, that is due to RMA support! Gigabyte is cool, but i personally have something against blue colours, just isn`t for me i am afraid.

I am also thinking of waiting for your review for the Rampage III Extreme, since i am waiting for the fermi to arrive, it could be a good idea to wait for newer mobos to come too. Btw, did u mean the Asus WS X58?
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You are looking at 1600Mhz ram but you have chosen a high-end motherboard that is pretty much build for overclocking, so why not go with, for example, dominator GT's, or any other ram that runs at a higher speed?

Oh and tha porsche/ferrari thing is a very bad comparison... ferrari's own porsche's any day xd
 
name='killablade' said:
You are looking at 1600Mhz ram but you have chosen a high-end motherboard that is pretty much build for overclocking, so why not go with, for example, dominator GT's, or any other ram that runs at a higher speed?

Oh and tha porsche/ferrari thing is a very bad comparison... ferrari's own porsche's any day xd
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You wish. I had a pleasure to work with an uncle of mine Chief-Director from pirelli in south america, at a 24h race. During these 24h i lost count on how many ferrari engines blew up, while the porsche kept going without an issue! I know it doesnt have anything to do with the topic, but it is a fair comparinson if you consider the "stability n reliability tests"
 
name='denis6902' said:
You wish. I had a pleasure to work with an uncle of mine Chief-Director from pirelli in south america, at a 24h race. During these 24h i lost count on how many ferrari engines blew up, while the porsche kept going without an issue! I know it doesnt have anything to do with the topic, but it is a fair comparinson if you consider the "stability n reliability tests"
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Meh! Ferrari's drive better :p
 
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