Email address

Dawelio

Dawelio

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Hey guys,

I was just wondering if you guys know any way to get like an independent email adress, that are not under like Microsoft and such, so no spying etc going on?...

Seems like outlook.com is the only way to get one these days?... Or do you guys perhaps know?.

Cheers,
Chrazey
 
Chrazey said:
Isn't it the same as Microsoft's hotmail though? Collecting info on you and spying on you as well?...
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Potentially, but then again if Google really would be wasting time with that, anyone could do the same no matter who the host is. I'm guessing you're probably a bit more worried about governments snooping around, but if you got nothing to hide...

You have to ask yourself, are you important enough to warrant spying on :)
 
I think you're being a little irrational. Google claim over 1 billion active accounts monthly so you'd have to have something pretty damn interesting to be worried about hiding. If you were genuinely that worried you wouldn't even be using the internet in general.
I think the majority of what people got bent out of shape over was Google scanning emails for keywords for targeted marketing and pushing G+.
 
tolagarf said:
Potentially, but then again if Google really would be wasting time with that, anyone could do the same no matter who the host is. I'm guessing you're probably a bit more worried about governments snooping around, but if you got nothing to hide...

You have to ask yourself, are you important enough to warrant spying on :)
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NickOmega said:
I think you're being a little irrational. Google claim over 1 billion active accounts monthly so you'd have to have something pretty damn interesting to be worried about hiding. If you were genuinely that worried you wouldn't even be using the internet in general.
I think the majority of what people got bent out of shape over was Google scanning emails for keywords for targeted marketing and pushing G+.
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I know what you guys mean, but I'm just thinking in general. Despite having nothing to hide or not, it's the principle and the integrity of having my personal information, exactly that, personal. Not that everyone should be able to look at my entire private life, as it should be just that, private.

If you get what I mean, and yes I know regarding that not using the internet in general... All I was wondering IF there is a email provider that isn't as nefty as Microsfot and Google on people's lives.
 
Chrazey said:
Seems like outlook.com is the only way to get one these days?
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Outlook is owned by Microsoft too. It's basically the replacement for Hotmail. I doubt it's private.

As for your question, afaik the only way to do this is by hosting your own domain, like Davva already mentioned.
 
Doesnt matter what email account you use, they all go via the CIA matey. They dont look at your inbox they look at them while they are on the move.
 
AverageNinja said:
Outlook is owned by Microsoft too. It's basically the replacement for Hotmail. I doubt it's private.

As for your question, afaik the only way to do this is by hosting your own domain, like Davva already mentioned.
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Lol, why replace Hotmail when it was so popular with Outlook?...

tinytomlogan said:
Doesnt matter what email account you use, they all go via the CIA matey. They dont look at your inbox they look at them while they are on the move.
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They don't look at your inbox, they look at them while they are on the move?... I'm not following...
 
Chrazey said:
Lol, why replace Hotmail when it was so popular with Outlook?...
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No idea, though my old Hotmail account still works. It's just through Outlook (which, admittedly, is a lot more user-friendly, though I still prefer Gmail). I believe they replaced Hotmail back in 2013. Outlook has been a part of MS Office for decades. I'm guessing they wanted to bring all of their e-mail services under one name.

If you go to outlook.com and scroll all the way to the bottom, you'll see the Microsoft logo.
 
Emails go all around the world and through loads of servers, they are monitored when they are being sent. They dont 'look through' your inbox, they have no need.

Essentially youre worried over nothing and even 'getting a new email provider' will still be the same
 
tinytomlogan said:
Emails go all around the world and through loads of servers, they are monitored when they are being sent. They dont 'look through' your inbox, they have no need.

Essentially youre worried over nothing and even 'getting a new email provider' will still be the same
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Fair enough.
 
If you wanted to send sensitive info by email, you'd put it in an encrypted file and ensure only you and the recipient have the decryption key. I'm not being naive here but unless you are on some sort of government watchlist nobody gives a single crap what any of us send via email. The absolute worst case scenario is you get targeted adverts when browsing. Google have 1 billion accounts all sending emails every day, if someone was really going to read every single one of them then pretty much everyone in the whole world would be employed by Google to read each others emails!
 
I wouldn't feel safer about any free alternative email provider, something has to pay the bills. I don't mean they snoop your email for money, but targeted advertisements are the best way of generating ad revenue.

But you can get decent service for relatively cheap, for example I've heard good things about Posteo.de.

Oh, and you could also use GPG with your mails, though obviously metadata is as collectible as ever, aka. the provider will see who you mailed and when.

But if you want freedom from the mass surveillance we have today, some quite extreme measures are necessary... Like using Tails as your OS. But oh wait, Intel Management Engine still runs and can in theory be used to still track you.
 
Chrazey said:
Lol, why replace Hotmail when it was so popular with Outlook?...
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Rebranding to make Microsoft's free email more professional. Welcome to Microsoft's world.


Tbh, If you don't like the idea of being spied on you'll have your work cut out. You should be alright (or rather, not the focus of whatever nation state) unless you're up to something deemed suspicious..

-edit- If you want a secure email account, Protonmail is pretty good. Although you are then relying on whoever is receiving/sending the mail to not be compromised :)
 
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