Asus Z170/M8H & Corsair Vengeance LPX: any issues?

[TheF34RChannel]

I've noticed that many out there run G.Skill RAM, but I'm looking for people running Corsair Vengeance LPX with (please list issues if any exist) or without issues. I'm curious to the part numbers of your Corsair RAM, as I try to discover just how good or bad this type of RAM is on Z170/M8H.

For some reason it feels to me that Corsair just broke up their quad channel kits into halve and sell it as dual channel kits, also because all kits are labeled as compatible with X99 and Z170, so not specifically designed for Z170. Paired with the platform being picky about memory, I thought it interesting to ask around, and just maybe discover it's the cause of my mysterious issue.

 

[Feronix]

For some reason it feels to me that Corsair just broke up their quad channel kits into halve and sell it as dual channel kits

That's what dual channel RAM is though. All the dimms are made individually, as you can see by the serial numbers on the back. Kits exist out of 2 or 4 consecutive serial numbers that they grabbed together.

The RAM itself does not have any instructions for quad- or dual channel, this is all done by your motherboard and the memory controller on your CPU.


Any DDR4 RAM should work in any Z170 motherboard, regardless of it being "optimized for Z170 (it's not)" or not. If something causes issues then it's most likely because either something is broken, or your bios settings are off.

Do you have XMP turned on?

 

[TheF34RChannel]

There are many having problems with Z170 and certain RAM, indicating that something can definitely be the matter imho. For example G.Skill Ripjaws 4.

With or without XMP the issue persists. Nonetheless I will set my RAM manually from now on.

I could post all my bios settings if need be?

 

[Feronix]

There are many having problems with Z170 and certain RAM, indicating that something can definitely be the matter imho. For example G.Skill Ripjaws 4.

With or without XMP the issue persists. Nonetheless I will set my RAM manually from now on.

I could post all my bios settings if need be?

Hmm, maybe it's a chipset issues? Are all your chipset drivers up to date?

Bios pics might help, maybe someone can spot something wrong in them.

 

[tinytomlogan]

Ive never had any memory issues with a Corsair - Asus Z170 combo


If its super fast mem some lower end boards may need configuring in the BIOS but Ive been able to run 3600 mhz memory from Corsair and Gskill on almost every board Ive had. When it comes to Asus EVERY board and its only the cheap one that need a bit of bios tweaking to get 3600mhz running

 

[TheF34RChannel]

@ Feronix: yeah drivers are up to date. I'll post my BIOS below this one, I will have to triple post because it's too much data to handle for a single post, sorry. This is from when the OC was still on. I will use Adaptive shortly and toss XMP.

@ Tom: that's a relief! I absolutely love this Corsair memory! I was about to tweak SA & VCCIO voltages to see if solves the issue.

If any or either of you would be willing to take a look my issues thread and maybe give your thoughts on the issue and my BIOS settings it would mean the world to me, because I'm stuck and don't know what to do now.

Thread: http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=73948

 

[TheF34RChannel]

[2016/01/03 15:31:30]
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[TheF34RChannel]

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[Ryan@ASUS]

All I can really think of is that your system doesn't like the high CPU/DRAM clocks (although they aren't that high...) Maybe try rolling back memory to JEDEC 2133, see if you still get the problem. Or rolling back the CPU to stock and see if you still get the issue. If either of those solve it you can rule out either of the other.

There was also a BIOS patch on 19/01/2016, not sure if that'll help - worth giving it a go.

With XMP memory issues I've heard that this sometimes fixes things:

CLK Rising slope and CLK falling slope both to 4, under Extreme Tweaker > Timing Control > Skew Control

 

[tinytomlogan]

Get us some screenshots posted of the BIOS dude


From what Ive read its time to go full manual.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

All I can really think of is that your system doesn't like the high CPU/DRAM clocks (although they aren't that high...) Maybe try rolling back memory to JEDEC 2133, see if you still get the problem. Or rolling back the CPU to stock and see if you still get the issue. If either of those solve it you can rule out either of the other.

There was also a BIOS patch on 19/01/2016, not sure if that'll help - worth giving it a go.

With XMP memory issues I've heard that this sometimes fixes things:

CLK Rising slope and CLK falling slope both to 4, under Extreme Tweaker > Timing Control > Skew Control

The strange thing is that after I got rid of the Q-Code 13 upon its very first boot after I built it it worked fine since late November with said overclocks until 1 January, which gave me 25 (= nothing), 14/15 afterwards/after CLR_CMOS.

I have run the system without any OC or XMP for a week and the issue persisted as usual.

Yeah I plan on flashing 1402 a.s.a.p. - however I fear it might shutdown in the midst of it since it already did once while looking around in the BIOS; that would ruin my BIOS I imagine.

I plan on not using XMP but setting it manually; is setting the CLK slopes still beneficial in that case?

Get us some screenshots posted of the BIOS dude


From what Ive read its time to go full manual.

It is strange how so many can just put it together and it works without much tweaking - if any at all - and mine won't, and I don't have anything too fancy either.

Would it also help if I provide a brief overview of the issue? There's so much info in the thread I linked it's rather chaotic now. I can make it concise.

I'll do the screenies first before I attempt anything else (except flashing the BIOS), and take it from there. Thanks to both of you for getting involved - much appreciated!

EDIT 24 January:

Shop said surges are the issue in the PSU.

I will Tom, thanks. F12 I believe? Any particular sections you would like to see in the BIOS screenshots? And with what profile loaded? Right now it's on optimised defaults (on which it also shut down previously).

Updated the BIOS yesterday to 1402, because it's there, and loaded optimised defaults. Didn't do much else but thought I'd run 4 instances of HCI Memtest overnight, each of 1750, coverage this morning was 1480+ % with 0 errors. Task manager said it loaded up 8GB of 16, that doesn't like the best coverage of the total RAM?

I did make pics of the socket and CPU from all sides since I had it out.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2lthtvt.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/2pyxpmp.jpg

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http://i64.tinypic.com/282okno.jpg

On a side note, tried to disable Thunderbolt and I can but is also enables some sort of native PCI setting? Is that okay, and, what is it?