Are Manufacturers Just Being Greedy?

[Excalabur50]

Not that this affects me as I'm not upgrading but seriously are manufacturers just being greedy with their new Ryzen boards?
Just had a look at the pre release prices and the Asus Crosshair VII is $150Au more and the MSI M7 is $70Au more than the previous boards, just to name two, for almost no difference in features or anything else for that matter.
Seems to me they are just cashing in on the success of Ryzen.
I noticed though that the 2700x is actually cheaper than it's 1700x counterpart when it came out which is great.
So what are peoples thoughts on this I for one am not happy, can't see any justification for these price increases.

 

[mb67]

The Crosshair VII is available for pre-order here in the US for $50 USD higher than then Crosshair VI (which I have) was at launch.

 

[Warchild]

Not that this affects me as I'm not upgrading but seriously are manufacturers just being greedy with their new Ryzen boards?
Just had a look at the pre release prices and the Asus Crosshair VII is $150Au more and the MSI M7 is $70Au more than the previous boards, just to name two, for almost no difference in features or anything else for that matter.
Seems to me they are just cashing in on the success of Ryzen.
I noticed though that the 2700x is actually cheaper than it's 1700x counterpart when it came out which is great.
So what are peoples thoughts on this I for one am not happy, can't see any justification for these price increases.

Interesting.

I do wonder if they are trying to fool consumers. Since Ryzen CPU is cheaper, could it be that raising the cost of the boards, there are people misled into thinking;

"Since my Ryzen CPU is cheaper, I can spend more on my motherboard"

That plus the fact its a new board range.

 

[tinytomlogan]

Ever think about the fact AMD could be (are) charging more for the X470 chipset....?

 

[Warchild]

Ever think about the fact AMD could be (are) charging more for the X470 chipset....?

I suppose its something we don't associate with AMD considering they are always proud to announce their products are lower priced.

 

[Excalabur50]

Ever think about the fact AMD could be (are) charging more for the X470 chipset....?

I did think of that and as far as I know so far that is it only gives a bit more XFR didn't think that would be that much more expensive to give out

 

[tinytomlogan]

XFR has nothing to do with the chipset - thats all CPU

 

[Excalabur50]

XFR has nothing to do with the chipset - thats all CPU

Ok learn something new everyday. I still think the price increase is a bit steep though, although when the reviews go live they might be justified.

 

[Dicehunter]

Not that this affects me as I'm not upgrading but seriously are manufacturers just being greedy with their new Ryzen boards?
Just had a look at the pre release prices and the Asus Crosshair VII is $150Au more and the MSI M7 is $70Au more than the previous boards, just to name two, for almost no difference in features or anything else for that matter.
Seems to me they are just cashing in on the success of Ryzen.
I noticed though that the 2700x is actually cheaper than it's 1700x counterpart when it came out which is great.
So what are peoples thoughts on this I for one am not happy, can't see any justification for these price increases.

Well AMD themselves said to Gamers Nexus that the actual differences in the chipset are minuscule to non existent, It's really only extra M.2 slots you are gaining with X470, If you have a higher end X370 board like the Crosshair 6 Hero then there won't really be any performance gained by going for the updated X470 mobo as it is essentially the same motherboard with tiny internal and external updates.

I'm guessing they are just cashing in on the success of Ryzen, It is a business after all.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Ever think about the fact AMD could be (are) charging more for the X470 chipset....?

Man those extra M.2 slots must be expensive. Especially because boards have even less rear IO than last time. I definitely see the reason for such high price increases!


Honestly not buying it. Even if it's true the boards are far higher priced. You'd be better off going Intel.

 

[tannji]

I wouldnt lose sight of the fact that AMD also needs to start making MONEY. Given that their chips are a great bargain, and GPUs are not... I am not surprised... And kind of support them getting some margin where they can, within reasin.

 

[AlienALX]

If that extra slot requires extra lanes then it means PLX. If that is the case then they are very expensive indeed. That is why some of the dual GPU cards cost more than two separate cards, because they had their own PLX chips to guarantee X16.

Also it is highly likely there are 'slot' royalty fees too, which is probably why we are seeing less USB ports too (£1 a port, IIRC).