AMD’s R9 290X might not be the full chip after all

[WYP]

Rumours of AMD Hawaii XT core in the R9 290X not being fully used has been floating around since the cores launch. Now there are renewed hopes in AMD releasing a "full fat" Hawaii XT core as a professional overclocker leaks some information.

Thought to have been proven false one man now again claims the Hawaii XT core hasn't been seen at it's fullest yet.

The leaker is Overclockers UK's 8-Pack and this is what he has said.

290X is not full fat!!!

The Contingency is ready

As usual NDA stops me from saying very much. Yes I do have more info but I cant share it.

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AMD already have its next gen high end part ready.They have had for a while.

They also have a full fat Hawaii XT up there sleeves this being said Nvidia will not be able to do there milking of the consumer as they so often have,

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We have spoken aloit with AMD about temp probs etc. I am sure they are the right track this time round.

I personally don't care about temps. Just want perf.

But wait a second, wasn't the rumours of a 3072 cored proven false? Does this mean there is something else hidden in the Hawaii XT core? I don't know the answers to these questions or if what 8-Pack says here is even true, but with 6GB 780s and an 6GB 780Ti coming soon it would be one hell of a time to see a new High end card from AMD.

Take everything here with a pinch of salt, but something interesting might soon be coming.

Please post you thoughts and feelings about this below, would you like to see a R9 295X in the near future?


Source - Overclockers

 

[katiekitsune]

if they add more memory to it and give it a better thermal interface im all for a 295x

 

[SeekaX]

They'd have to release it watercooled as well. I'd laugh pretty hard though if they'd release it with their reference 'cooler' and then claim that 110 degrees is just fine to run at.

 

[barnsley]

It'll happen. If Sapphire et al have been able to treat the temperatures with the 290x then there is a chance they'll do the same with whatever comes out. My feeling is that AMD will want to lower the power draw though. The 290x keeps up with the 780ti now and the 295x2 is 'the fastest graphics card available' so I'm guessing the full fat card will be released to do battle with whatever is released by Nvidia soon.

They'd have to release it watercooled as well. I'd laugh pretty hard though if they'd release it with their reference 'cooler' and then claim that 110 degrees is just fine to run at.

They just need someone else to do the cooling design for them. It'll run on air fine.

 

[Ghosthud1]

Aftermarket 290x parts have been officially tamed so I don't see why they wouldn't release the 48 CU hawaii part to combat the upcoming 6GB nvidia offerings.

Usually amd/nivida always have something at the ready to combat each other.

 

[SeekaX]

They just need someone else to do the cooling design for them. It'll run on air fine.

They aren't going to do that. They'd rather slap a waterblock on it.

 

[SieB]

This is old news, I remember reading this earlier this year. Rumours of the 295 single card have been round for a while now.

They aren't going to do that. They'd rather slap a waterblock on it.

I wish more cards had a waterblocks on them, much better all round. Quieter, cooler and better overclocking headroom.

 

[Ghosthud1]

Is it just me who doesn't have a problem with factory AIO/Waterblock £500-£600 cards?

 

[SieB]

Is it just me who doesn't have a problem with factory AIO/Waterblock £500-£600 cards?

I'd rather have one to be honest, I think it is the way forward for GPUs. Unless they get considerably cooler that even aircoolers have no probs.

 

[MadShadow]

Haha, this is great. I remember some youtuber complaining about how nvidia releases a "flagship" card, then quickly follows up with a ti version. Apparently that pisses people off. Now AMD are doing it Should be interesting to see how this 295 fares against the 780ti.

 

[Dicehunter]

I'm guessing the 295X will either be on par with the 780 Ti or 5-10% faster either way it's a waste of resources, They should put this work towards their next REAL gen cards instead of re-hashing the same old crap.

 

[MadShadow]

I'm guessing the 295X will either be on par with the 780 Ti or 5-10% faster either way it's a waste of resources, They should put this work towards their next REAL gen cards instead of re-hashing the same old crap.

I doubt they have to put that much time and effort into releasing an old, but unlocked card. Also, its not exactly re-hashing, because essentially this would be a new card.

 

[Ghosthud1]

I'm guessing the 295X will either be on par with the 780 Ti or 5-10% faster either way it's a waste of resources, They should put this work towards their next REAL gen cards instead of re-hashing the same old crap.

Trust me, development on the next generation of cards are well under way for both teams.

Non of these releases hinder that.

 

[SieB]

Its no different than what Nvidia has done with the Titan Black.

The Titan Black is the full fat GK110, which from that they made the Titan, 780 and 780Ti.

The 295 is/supposedly/will be the full fat Hawaii and is what the 290X and 290 come from.

 

[Kaapstad]

No problems cooling a full fat Hawaii chip, the AIB partners will have no problems with their existing designs.

Even if you give the card 256 more cores to bring the total up to 3072 you can still run it on the same volts as the normal 290X as these cards are easy to undervolt.

Having said that the 290Xs with AIB custom coolers don't have any problems even if you overclock with big volts on air anyway.

 

[Dicehunter]

No problems cooling a full fat Hawaii chip, the AIB partners will have no problems with their existing designs.

Even if you give the card 256 more cores to bring the total up to 3072 you can still run it on the same volts as the normal 290X as these cards are easy to undervolt.

Having said that the 290Xs with AIB custom coolers don't have any problems even if you overclock with big volts on air anyway.

The 290X Matrix I had tells a different story, Even at stock that thing was an oven, The temps were insane, One of the reasons I took it back and got a 780 Ti which for once in my life I won the silicon lottery with.

I just honestly don't understand why AMD thought it was ok for these stupidly high temps and yes I know you have great temps but yours are on water cooling so doesn't count

 

[WYP]

The 290X Matrix I had tells a different story, Even at stock that thing was an oven, The temps were insane, One of the reasons I took it back and got a 780 Ti which for once in my life I won the silicon lottery with.

I just honestly don't understand why AMD thought it was ok for these stupidly high temps and yes I know you have great temps but yours are on water cooling so doesn't count

Yeah, I hope AMD can sort out their stock cooling issues. Temps aside the Throttling ruined the cards performance, Aftermarket 290s beat stock 290x cards easily.

AMD will need to sort out the power side with their next generation, one thing Nvidia seem to be doing well (Since the gtx 480 anyways).

 

[Dicehunter]

Yeah, I hope AMD can sort out their stock cooling issues. Temps aside the Throttling ruined the cards performance, Aftermarket 290s beat stock 290x cards easily.

AMD will need to sort out the power side with their next generation, one thing Nvidia seem to be doing well (Since the gtx 480 anyways).

I really did like the 290X, Performance was solid but the temps killed it for me, Even with the Matrix and the after market cooling the clocks would throttle so I had to keep the side panel from the 540 off and case fans on max to blow over the 290X.
I like a cool stable system and that's what ruined it for me.

 

[SeekaX]

I wish more cards had a waterblocks on them, much better all round. Quieter, cooler and better overclocking headroom.

I am split about the waterblocks. Usually when a card comes with a waterblock it carries quite the price premium, it's less convenient and looks worse, also lowers the case options.
On the other hand it's quieter and a lot cooler.

 

[Dicehunter]

I am split about the waterblocks. Usually when a card comes with a waterblock it carries quite the price premium, it's less convenient and looks worse, also lowers the case options.
On the other hand it's quieter and a lot cooler.

Maybe this will make companies make water blocks that look good for a change instead of ugly as hell with a decent price ? I can dream ^_^