the temps. are not. the same.
not to mention that a reference 780ti will beat that 290x, which is a lot cheaper than 600 quid. in germany i can get a 780ti for a bit less than 600 euros, that's where the 290x DCUII starts as well.
AMD's Hawaii might be more powerful than advertised
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the temps. are not. the same.
not to mention that a reference 780ti will beat that 290x, which is a lot cheaper than 600 quid. in germany i can get a 780ti for a bit less than 600 euros, that's where the 290x DCUII starts as well.
barnsley
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Oh it does seem like that, swear I saw sparkle selling it on their website recently. Regardless I'm sure it does Blow. ohoho.
In regards to the 7870 Tahiti it didn't dent the sales of the 7950 that bad as the majority of people who buy a graphics card don't overclock them. There were a few xfx ones floating around recently for £130 (650ti boost money) but they all went as soon as this damn Crypto currency boom started.
See my earlier post for a better 290x. The DCUII is a pretty bad 290x IMO, its too pricey and doesn't have as beefy a cooler as other offerings.
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SieB
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The temps are not the what now?
Asus DCUII 780Ti vs Sapphire 290 Tri-X
These are for the Tri-X
Rest are for the Asus DCUII 290X
WYP
News Guru
I got in just under the wire on that one with two VTX3D tahiti cards for around £200.
Considering the 290x after market cards and the 780Ti cards, both seem to play similarly in many senarios, with the 780Ti being on overall top position.
Both of these cards are however outshone by the next card down, the 780 and 290 both seem like far better value.
780ti vs 290 != 780ti vs 290x.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Would be the first GPU on the consumer end having over 3k cores on a single GPU! Would be awesome
Though i suspect they won't release any card like this but may just take all the feedback on current Hawaii and improve the newer card to make it compete with future gpus.
In regards to the "780ti vs 290 != 780ti vs 290x." comment...
Ok well actually look at the graphs. 290x still wins.
Though i suspect they won't release any card like this but may just take all the feedback on current Hawaii and improve the newer card to make it compete with future gpus.
In regards to the "780ti vs 290 != 780ti vs 290x." comment...
Ok well actually look at the graphs. 290x still wins.
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
I like AMD but they're cooling sucks ass, They would need some serious after market cooling for this thing if it ever did come out.
SieB
New member
Dude, just stop, the 290 and 290X run at the same temps. You are the prime example of the ignorant to the facts person I am talking about. Also the DCUII 290 temps I posted are of the 290X not the non X.
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the argument is still invalid because the nvidia cards overclock themselves till they hit the thermal limit, the only way to prevent that is watercooling, the normal 780ti maxed out at 71 degrees.
SieB
New member
also you haven't told me either why to wait 8 months for this over a 780.
9 degrees difference
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SieB
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also you haven't told me either why to wait 8 months for this over a 780.
9 degrees difference
Just godamn stop FFS, you are proving more and more with each post on what I mentioned in the beginning about ignorant people who make everything AMD do look bad and everything Nvidia do look good.
If you want to bring the argument about "HURR THE NVIDIA OVERCLOCKS ITSELF THATS WHY IT IS HOTTER"
If it didn't overclock itself then yes it would be cooler, but it would also be slower.
Instead of looking at one review, which lets face it OC3D graphs and results never seem to match what various other sites say. Go look at those other reviews, take the results from ALL of them including OC3D's and work out the averages. You will then see that based on ~5 reviews from 5 different places and not just one where the 290x is hotter that when you take the results and find the averages that the 290/x with aftermarket coolers are just as hot and as loud as the 780/Ti.
Stop with your childish shit and face the facts, you are just nitpicking and exaggerating things because of your dislike of AMD cards.
The facts are the 290/x are just as loud and as hot with aftermarket coolers and watercooling as the 780/780Ti.
Thank you for being the prime example of what I have been saying throughout this thread and proving my point. There are many people like you when even faced with facts refuse to accept them due to your petite fanboyism, bias or general dislike of anything other than your preferred brand.
still nothing about the 8 month delay you are rewarding.
SieB
New member
What about the 8 month delay, how does that change anything I have said or the facts about the cards?
It changes nothing, and i'm not rewarding anything. You see, there lies the problem. You see this as me trying to reward and praise the 290 when all I am doing is pointing out the general ignorance when it comes to AMD vs Nvidia and the way people ignore facts even when they are in put infront of them.
I like AMD and Nvidia, the only reason i'm getting a 290 over a 780 is because I want to see how Mantle plays out and that really is the only reason.
The only thing I have against Nvidia is their prices, the cards themselves are great but so are AMDs and they are usually the better bang for your buck.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
From all the graphs and videos I've seen so far the 290X has a higher temp than the 290, Unless we're talking aftermarket cooler variations.
I know it's only 2'c but it's still a difference ^_^
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it changes a whole lot, it changes the entire mentality behind the purchase, i look at what both teams do and then i consider which team deserves my money the most. i don't care if i have 20 euros less in my pocket if it goes to the team that did the better job.
you are degrading me to an nvidia fanboy, which isn't even correct. just 2 days ago i gave a friend of mine the go ahead to build a 280x rig, i advised a bunch of people to get a 7870LE, heck i even loved my 6870, i do acknowledge that AMD are the better option for people who are tight on the money and are only interested in the newest stuff, but their business decisions and their technological advancement in the high end business don't deserve my money at the current point in time.
8 months and aftermarket cooling to get in between the best and the second best card of the competition is no achievement.
WYP
News Guru
also you haven't told me either why to wait 8 months for this over a 780.
9 degrees difference
please bear in mind the 290x cooler is a unmodified 780Ti Direct Cu cooler.
Notice how two of the heatpipes don't even make contact with the gpu die, this makes a difference in how fast is can dissipate heat.
please bear in mind the 290x cooler is a unmodified 780Ti Direct Cu cooler.
Notice how two of the heatpipes don't even make contact with the gpu die, this makes a difference in how fast is can dissipate heat.
i suppose they rushed it out, maybe there will be something like the TOP V2.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
I didn't think putting a cooler designed for an Nvidia chip on to an AMD chip would work, Explains the heat difference.
Hope they come out with one actually designed for the 290/X.
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