AMD Hawaii XTX Core confirmed? 3000+ cores!

[WYP]

With the rumors of a more powerful variant of the Hawaii XT core, which is used in the R9 290X, floating around the net again ranging from Blurry die shot comparisons to even the word of professional overclockers, could AMD have one beast of a GPU hidden up their sleeves?

VideoCardz, a site which specializes in the leaking of GPU related information has, thought their secret sources, claim that they have confirmed that a more powerful version of the Hawaii XT core is coming.

Specs for this core is unknown at present, but given the calculations from the die-shot comparisons to other GCN Cores there is a high likelihood that this GPU will have 48 Compute units which will make the specs be as follows.

As seen in the picture above the Hawaii XTX core will have 4 additional compute units, which will give it 3072 GPU cores and 192 TMUs. Which is a increase of 256 GPU cores and increase of 16 TMUs. The ROP count will remain the same as the R9 290X at 64.

Another Mystery Remains, what will AMD call this card, R9 290XT? Perhaps R9 295X?

There will also be one more thing to consider, does AMD have a new and Improved reference cooler design? Or will they go down the AIO route or even offer no reference Cooler and allow the vendors to run wild, I guess we will see soon.

This hypothetical R9 295X, will likely compete well with the GTX 780 TI and Titan Black with a high likely hood of beating them, as well as perform better at 4K resolutions at a time where it is becoming affordable.

I will continue to follow this story as it develops. Please post your thoughts and feelings about AMD's new Hawaii XTX core below, and as always thanks for reading.

Source - Videocardz

 

[Dicehunter]

I wonder if Nvidia have a counter to this coming out

 

[Ghosthud1]

I wonder if Nvidia have a counter to this coming out

290 XTX will sit side by side with the 780ti more than likely.

Nvidia probably holding for the 800 series now.

 

[Dicehunter]

290 XTX will sit side by side with the 780ti more than likely.

Nvidia probably holding for the 800 series now.

Not too sure to be honest, If you look at the benchmarks the 290X isn't far behind the 780 Ti, This could bring it out on top.

 

[Ghosthud1]

The only logical response would be a price decease across the 780 ti's, but even then i still think the 780 ti still stands strong.

 

[Dicehunter]

The only logical response would be a price decease across the 780 ti's, but even then i still think the 780 ti still stands strong.

True, The heat that this "Refresh" is going to bring though will be nuts, Unless they've stopped being lazy and refined the engineering process or just slapped another AIO on it.

 

[WYP]

True, The heat that this "Refresh" is going to bring though will be nuts, Unless they've stopped being lazy and refined the engineering process or just slapped another AIO on it.

Yeah, but there are some good vendor coolers for the 290 series cards, Sapphire's and MSI's are good examples.

 

[Dicehunter]

Yeah, but there are some good vendor coolers for the 290 series cards, Sapphire's and MSI's are good examples.

Yeah true forgot about those, I really hope Nvidia doesn't milk it further by bringing out the 780 Ti-Ultra or something along those lines.

Seriously if they do then I'm off, AMD and Nvidia can both go suck a bag of dicks.

 

[WYP]

Yeah true forgot about those, I really hope Nvidia doesn't milk it further by bringing out the 780 Ti-Ultra or something along those lines.

Seriously if they do then I'm off, AMD and Nvidia can both go suck a bag of dicks.

There is nothing else in that GPU core to unlock for Nvidia, unless they release a new GPU core they have no options.

But if Nvidia could there would definitely be a 780 TiTi.

 

[Dicehunter]

There is nothing else in that GPU core to unlock for Nvidia, unless they release a new GPU core they have no options.

But if Nvidia could there would definitely be a 780 TiTi.

LOL, They might as well call it the 780 TiTi Twister Edition ^_^

 

[Kaapstad]

There is nothing else in that GPU core to unlock for Nvidia, unless they release a new GPU core they have no options.

But if Nvidia could there would definitely be a 780 TiTi.

And if NVidia was to market a new dual card using a pair of Titi's it would be a lot more interesting than the Titan Z.

Perhaps they could call it the Titan DD.

 

[Dicehunter]

And if NVidia was to market a new dual card using a pair of Titi's it would be a lot more interesting than the Titan Z.

Perhaps they could call it the Titan DD.

Oh I see what you did there you sly devil ^_^

 

[garih]

Why bother adding this card into this lineup. Make more sense to me to hold it back for the refresh and insert it as the next top card

 

[Dicehunter]

Why bother adding this card into this lineup. Make more sense to me to hold it back for the refresh and insert it as the next top card

The 290X actually has to be physically cut down before it leaves the factory, With this they are leaving out the cutting process and delivering the full core so it's not actually holding anything back

 

[Dirty Poul]

The 290X actually has to be physically cut down before it leaves the factory, With this they are leaving out the cutting process and delivering the full core so it's not actually holding anything back

But why would they do this? I don't get it. Why not give the most performance and just set the price higher and make more money? Why cut it down and sell it for less? I never understood this marketing sh*t...

 

[WYP]

But why would they do this? I don't get it. Why not give the most performance and just set the price higher and make more money? Why cut it down and sell it for less? I never understood this marketing sh*t...

There are plenty of reasons man. Firstly there is yield, not all chips make the grade and perhaps at the start of production the yield for the full chips could have been bad meaning not enough cores are of high enough quality to sell. Sometimes there are extra cores added to improve yields, for example both the XBONE and PS4 have disabled GPU cores.

Second there is marketing, on release the R9 290X was only supposed to compete with the GTX 780, which it beats. There isn't too much point in using the full core at low yeilds when what became the 290X core was good enough.

Finally there is thermals, AMD has had a lot of trouble keeping this thing cool, Imagine that with even more GPU to produce heat.

 

[Dirty Poul]

There are plenty of reasons man. Firstly there is yield, not all chips make the grade and perhaps at the start of production the yield for the full chips could have been bad meaning not enough cores are of high enough quality to sell. Sometimes there are extra cores added to improve yields, for example both the XBONE and PS4 have disabled GPU cores.

Second there is marketing, on release the R9 290X was only supposed to compete with the GTX 780, which it beats. There isn't too much point in using the full core at low yeilds when what became the 290X core was good enough. Sadly Nvidia sneaked out the 780Ti and ruined that party for AMD.

Finally there is thermals, AMD has had a lot of trouble keeping this thing cool, Imagine that with even more GPU to cool.

Didn't think about the yields. To me, that seems like the most reasonable explanation. I understand what you mean about the marketing. It would hit a spot price wise directly between 780 and Titan, but would not be much better than these cards, so people would perhaps rather get 2x 770's instead of a Hawaii XTX that would perform better but cost less. It would not even use much more power, and it would have better cooling, so the rig would stay quiter. There would not be much reason to pick this up other than custom watercooling for enthusiasts.

So yeah, I get it. Thanks for saying it. Really cleared up my mind there

 

[Excalabur50]

The info about these cards now confirms the rumour that I had the other day that the current series of AMD cards were going to see a price drop soon now I know why.

 

[Bang]

The info about these cards now confirms the rumour that I had the other day that the current series of AMD cards were going to see a price drop soon now I know why.

That would be nice because I'm thinking about getting an R9 290. A lower price would pretty much make my mind up.

 

[Agost]

Yeah but... nvidia is going to release some new Maxwell based chips, which could be really efficient as the 750/750 ti showed. So they can easily outperform the 780Ti with a card that consumes less power and costs less, while AMD (sadly) doesn't have any new architecture ready to be produced