New GPU's from AMD Finally! Its time for us to take a deep dive into how the RX 7900 XT and XTX graphics cards perform, its not as straight forward as some of you may have been hoping for though!
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT and RX 7900 XTX Review
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT and RX 7900 XTX Review
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New GPU's from AMD Finally! Its time for us to take a deep dive into how the RX 7900 XT and XTX graphics cards perform, its not as straight forward as some of you may have been hoping for though!
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT and RX 7900 XTX Review
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
OK, so... not as good as the hype. In fact, it's quite a bit behind even the modest hype. Many people were expecting smack in the middle of 4080 and 4090 performance with equivalent power draw. But in actuality it's only just as fast as a 4080 in raster and behind in efficiency. If it weren't for Nvidia's absurd pricing of the 4080 (which I imagine they are deeply regretting now), the XTX and XT would be pretty sad.
Performance is fine, but it should have been $800. That would have been a true shake-up.
Price is fine, but it should have been 10-20% faster at the same TDP. That would have been a true shake-up.
Seeing as AMD can't magic up 20% performance at the same TDP, the first option would have made more sense. Sadly though greed inhabits AMD too.
Performance is fine, but it should have been $800. That would have been a true shake-up.
Price is fine, but it should have been 10-20% faster at the same TDP. That would have been a true shake-up.
Seeing as AMD can't magic up 20% performance at the same TDP, the first option would have made more sense. Sadly though greed inhabits AMD too.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I actually think that with RT and DLSS and efficiency of the 4080, the XTX is only on par with it at $1200—it's the same 'price to performance'. As in, if I were in the market for a card like either of those two, I'd strongly consider a 4080 over an XTX. Instead of AMD giving consumers a clear choice, they've made it so that Nvidia is still a consideration. They've done since so many times now that I don't think AMD will ever change. They don't want to shake the market up; they want to do what Nvidia does and continue to lose market share while somehow maintaining profits.
AlienALX
Well-known member
You know it's bad when you say "I would consider a 4080 over it".
The worst value card to release ever.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Both AMD and Nvidia need to rein these prices in, The vast majority of people I know who are in the market for a new card have simply said "Nope, Getting a PS5 instead".
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Good luck getting a PS5 then lol
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Over here they're not that difficult to get, There are drops once every 1-2 weeks.
Excalabur50
Well-known member
TBH 4080 raster performance with 3090/3090Ti RT for $200US less makes the 7900XTX a much more compelling card than the 4080, IMHO the only reason to get the 4080 is if they price match, and I just don't know if Nvidia will do that, although they might not have a choice.
If they really match prices, then a 4080 would be a nobrainer with DLSS, NVENC and its performance.
demonking
New member
Amd are clearly behind in terms of rt and software, though I would argue that nvidias frame generation should be discluded from all reviews. It's terrible for a start.
On pure rasterisation it's not bad considering that this is their first gen mcm. I think this will mature quite well but I don't think they'll make up their gains in rt.
One thing to note is that nvidia is only going to get more and more greedy. They're competing against their own customers and when it comes to air cooled gpus, they're some of the best and the partners cannot compete on price or performance at the moment.
Nvidia is also a very high demand asset. They're now mostly in the possession of investment banks, hedge funds and the capitalist kings. Nothing matters other than return on investment and getting more and more of it. While amd is in the same boat I suppose, they seem to be letting nvidia steer the market and trying to undercut them.
It's not going to get any better, nvidia wants to sell more data centre cards, a good way to do this is to push the prices up and push people into cloud services. You will own nothing and be happy. It won't be long before only the wealthy own a gpu and everyone else will be on a subscription model as it'll be the only way anyone can afford to game.
On pure rasterisation it's not bad considering that this is their first gen mcm. I think this will mature quite well but I don't think they'll make up their gains in rt.
One thing to note is that nvidia is only going to get more and more greedy. They're competing against their own customers and when it comes to air cooled gpus, they're some of the best and the partners cannot compete on price or performance at the moment.
Nvidia is also a very high demand asset. They're now mostly in the possession of investment banks, hedge funds and the capitalist kings. Nothing matters other than return on investment and getting more and more of it. While amd is in the same boat I suppose, they seem to be letting nvidia steer the market and trying to undercut them.
It's not going to get any better, nvidia wants to sell more data centre cards, a good way to do this is to push the prices up and push people into cloud services. You will own nothing and be happy. It won't be long before only the wealthy own a gpu and everyone else will be on a subscription model as it'll be the only way anyone can afford to game.
KingNosser
Well-known member
I'm not so disapointed by these cards myself, sure the prices could be lower for sure with the 7900XT, but i do feel something hasn't gone to plan it's either the drivers or something else as this is the first time in a long time that amd have stated more performance than what was delivered.
I saw these cards as 4080 competition mainly due to the price, but for whatever reason they are not where they aimed to be in terms of performance.
So while i expect some tweaks to come until they do i'd not touch any of the new batch of cards from either side for the simple reason the prices are out of control.
Now the other issue is the die is small meaning that amd could make a bigger card, thing is will they and i think least for now are going to need to focus on delivering what was promised in the showcase.
I just feel something isn't working with these cards, sure DXR was always going to be behind but that rasta should be much better.
I'll be sticking with the 6800XT for a fair old while yet and in truth dont need more anytime soon, i can wait 2 more gens cause until the next PS6 of Xbox??? why would i need too
High price reasons for nvidia is no mining market surplus stock AMD on the other hand while nvidia are greedy amd are also being greedy here, the reason they can ship so many cards is the vast amount of chips they get off a waffer so they could easily go lower, they will ship a lot of cards in hope to have a war chest is my feelings as chiplets are the future and nvidia need a plan themselve quick or mark my thoughts amd will trounce them just give it a gen or two they are way ahead atm in terms of tech be it chiplet vcache they have more options and are at least testing the products in the market, but no doubt about it they are being greedy as these cards are vastly cheaper too produce but at least they have a good chunck of vram.
I do hope they somehow improve with drivers, i don't think its a disaster but it's not what they promised.
I saw these cards as 4080 competition mainly due to the price, but for whatever reason they are not where they aimed to be in terms of performance.
So while i expect some tweaks to come until they do i'd not touch any of the new batch of cards from either side for the simple reason the prices are out of control.
Now the other issue is the die is small meaning that amd could make a bigger card, thing is will they and i think least for now are going to need to focus on delivering what was promised in the showcase.
I just feel something isn't working with these cards, sure DXR was always going to be behind but that rasta should be much better.
I'll be sticking with the 6800XT for a fair old while yet and in truth dont need more anytime soon, i can wait 2 more gens cause until the next PS6 of Xbox??? why would i need too
High price reasons for nvidia is no mining market surplus stock AMD on the other hand while nvidia are greedy amd are also being greedy here, the reason they can ship so many cards is the vast amount of chips they get off a waffer so they could easily go lower, they will ship a lot of cards in hope to have a war chest is my feelings as chiplets are the future and nvidia need a plan themselve quick or mark my thoughts amd will trounce them just give it a gen or two they are way ahead atm in terms of tech be it chiplet vcache they have more options and are at least testing the products in the market, but no doubt about it they are being greedy as these cards are vastly cheaper too produce but at least they have a good chunck of vram.
I do hope they somehow improve with drivers, i don't think its a disaster but it's not what they promised.
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23RO_UK
New member
I think their performance will improve dramatically with more mature drivers, AMD cards have a history of doing that; in terms of pricing, to be fair no price would sit well in the here and now financial climate (please note, I do however think Nvidia are taking the **** and then some with their pricing as always).
