AMD to make 'modular' CPUs in the future

[AverageNinja]

AMD has announced that they want to make processors on order. You can choose what you want in it yourself. Sony will be the first customer with the PS4. With this, they won't make new chips, but use present 'building blocks' to develop new socs.
With this, you should think about: Tablet CPUs, Gaming CPUs, Workstation CPUs, Servers etc.
It's unclear if this will substitute for the normal chips like the FX series and they want to completely focus on this, but I highly doubt that'll happen anyway.
What do you guys think?

 

[alienware]

I think they need to start putting decent GPUs with their CPUs.

They have both, FFS use both ! Stop palming us off with cack and put something worthwhile like the 7770 or 7850 aboard.

 

[Zoot]

I think they need to start putting decent GPUs with their CPUs.

They have both, FFS use both ! Stop palming us off with cack and put something worthwhile like the 7770 or 7850 aboard.

To be honest the pairing of a high end CPU and GPU on the one die is still a long way off. The power required, and not to mention die size would be insane.

 

[SeekaX]

idk why you people would want a gpu on your cpu, it just takes up space for more cores and raises the temps...

 

[SieB]

idk why you people would want a gpu on your cpu, it just takes up space for more cores and raises the temps...

This^^^^

There is a market for GPUs on the CPU, but when it comes to top end i5s and i7s (or the AMD equivalent) it's very unlikely the people buying them will need, or use the IGP. The only real use would be for Lucid Virtu, to beef up your GPU with the IGP

They should stick with doing it on the lower end CPUs, but leave the highend CPUs with just the CPU and no IGP.

If AMD are doing this, it's not really a bad thing as you could buy a highend CPU and not have the GPU on it. Most likely though, the market for this service wont be for end of line consumers, it will be for businesses who need a certain CPU for their work or product they are making.

 

[SeekaX]

This^^^^

There is a market for GPUs on the CPU, but when it comes to top end i5s and i7s (or the AMD equivalent) it's very unlikely the people buying them will need, or use the IGP. The only real use would be for Lucid Virtu, to beef up your GPU with the IGP

They should stick with doing it on the lower end CPUs, but leave the highend CPUs with just the CPU and no IGP.

If AMD are doing this, it's not really a bad thing as you could buy a highend CPU and not have the GPU on it. Most likely though, the market for this service wont be for end of line consumers, it will be for businesses who need a certain CPU for their work or product they are making.

i agree, i think there should be two versions of the i5/i7, one with gpu and one without. i don't want to pay 500€ for SB-E just to not have that stupid gpu, i just want a quad core with hyper threading and good temps. or ofc an AMD CPU, i'd be down for that if they could compete with intel.

 

[alienware]

To be honest the pairing of a high end CPU and GPU on the one die is still a long way off. The power required, and not to mention die size would be insane.

So they can do it in a console but can't in a PC... Why?

It's perfectly possible they would just have to bundle a decent cooler with it.

i agree, i think there should be two versions of the i5/i7, one with gpu and one without. i don't want to pay 500€ for SB-E just to not have that stupid gpu, i just want a quad core with hyper threading and good temps. or ofc an AMD CPU, i'd be down for that if they could compete with intel.

Yeah that was part of the reason why I went Xeon instead of I5 tbh. Didn't want that crap on there.

 

[SeekaX]

Yeah that was part of the reason why I went Xeon instead of I5 tbh. Didn't want that crap on there.

yea but you can't overclock it. the only way to get a CPU made for overclocking is SB-E which just isn't worth it at all. overclocking used to be the way of users to get more performance out of a cheaper core.

 

[alienware]

yea but you can't overclock it. the only way to get a CPU made for overclocking is SB-E which just isn't worth it at all. overclocking used to be the way of users to get more performance out of a cheaper core.

Yeah but I can overclock it by nearly a ghz.

Why is it people believe everything they're told?

 

[SeekaX]

Yeah but I can overclock it by nearly a ghz.

Why is it people believe everything they're told?

You can get 1ghz out of an fx4100 on air. I also doubt you are doing the core any good with it.
Let's be fair here, if you got a waterloop you shall be damned for not using it, 1ghz oc is not really worth it.

 

[alienware]

You can get 1ghz out of an fx4100 on air. I also doubt you are doing the core any good with it.
Let's be fair here, if you got a waterloop you shall be damned for not using it, 1ghz oc is not really worth it.

Of course it's worth it. Did you not see what happened to Hitman : Absolution with my set up with a 400mhz overclock? I went from 22-38 FPS min.

That's without the overclock that is built into every non K I5 Xeon and I7.

1ghz is 25% extra speed dude and it makes a massive difference, especially in games that are CPU intensive. Let's face it that's only 4-500mhz less than a fully unlocked CPU will be ran at 24/7.

With the FSB overclock you are not risking the CPU *at all*. You are risking corrupted data on your boot drive which is the main symptom of pushing the FSB too high. A mere 6mhz is completely stable and when you multiply the extra 106mhz across the 8 bins in total you can get you are adding nearly a ghz which is massive.

 

[Deejeta]

Ideally I would love a modular motherboard that has both a cpu socket and a gpu socket. Both sharing gddr5 memory.
IGPU's are good enough for non-gaming systems so they do have there place. I wouldve liked a 'k' igpu free ivy chip though.

 

[Zoot]

So they can do it in a console but can't in a PC... Why?

It's perfectly possible they would just have to bundle a decent cooler with it.

Consoles are quite underpowered with most of top-end GPUs and CPUs on the desktop. The best you're going to see for the forseeable future is something like the AMD A10-5800, or whatever Kaveri ends up looking like.