AMD R9 Fury X Review

[mojothejester]

Read the reviews, watched the video... Fury X seems like a great card to me. Fury Pro will be custom and cheaper. But for 1080p and possibly 1440p, would a GTX 980 be a good choice? Tom said he's seen the 980 for around £450, but ebuyer has some closer to £350. When you consider price, would it just be worth getting the 980? Or waiting for Fury Pro? I can't justify £510 on a GPU (980Ti is also £510 on overclockers). But on the other hand, my gtx 670 sli performs similar to a single 980 so not sure if it's worth it...

 

[NeverBackDown]

Read the reviews, watched the video... Fury X seems like a great card to me. Fury Pro will be custom and cheaper. But for 1080p and possibly 1440p, would a GTX 980 be a good choice? Tom said he's seen the 980 for around £450, but ebuyer has some closer to £350. When you consider price, would it just be worth getting the 980? Or waiting for Fury Pro? I can't justify £510 on a GPU (980Ti is also £510 on overclockers). But on the other hand, my gtx 670 sli performs similar to a single 980 so not sure if it's worth it...

Wait for reviews.. no one knows what the PRO will be like yet dude

 

[AlienALX]

They aren't having production issues. HBM has been in mass production for a while. The issue is everyone is buying them quicker than AMD can get them to stores around the world. They have the quantity, the demand is just crazy high and shipping isn't super fast when lugging around a couple thousand units.

I'll wait and see how the Fury Pro works out. Hopefully it's not a cutdown fury

They are having production issues. The yields have been very poor.

As for them shipping them? if they weren't having issues they could have done that far sooner to make sure that they were available to buy for every one at launch.

AMD have totally rushed this release, and I truly believe they would have delayed it quite severely had Nvidia not released the 980ti.

Rumour has it they only had about ten samples for the UK.

Wait for reviews.. no one knows what the PRO will be like yet dude

It'll be faster than the 980 which it's designed to take on, and it'll be cheaper..

As for the other dude. Sorry, CBA quoting but yes I want blower coolers. If Fury X only hits 40s it will be fine. My Titan Black hits 40c on an AIO so I would surmise they are about the same temp wise.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

They are having production issues. The yields have been very poor.

As for them shipping them? if they weren't having issues they could have done that far sooner to make sure that they were available to buy for every one at launch.

AMD have totally rushed this release, and I truly believe they would have delayed it quite severely had Nvidia not released the 980ti.

Rumour has it they only had about ten samples for the UK.



It'll be faster than the 980 which it's designed to take on, and it'll be cheaper..

As for the other dude. Sorry, CBA quoting but yes I want blower coolers. If Fury X only hits 40s it will be fine. My Titan Black hits 40c on an AIO so I would surmise they are about the same temp wise.

No worries. Yeah, if you're adding your own water block, reference designs are more sensible.

 

[chrismjurd]

good solid review!

love the smaller form factor

really want one

 

[AlienALX]

No worries. Yeah, if you're adding your own water block, reference designs are more sensible.

I don't water cool out of AIOs mate. I just see it as a tragic waste of money that could be spent on more performance.

So many water cooled builds are woefully under specced when it comes to actual performance because of the cost of the parts. And these days it's just not worth it, you're literally doing it for the looks.

I've got an AIO on my Titan Black and it hasn't gone over 40c yet. What's the point?

I like blowers because they are pretty direct with airflow and so on. Feed them cool air in, hot air comes out the back and doesn't bother the top card or other components. I tried SLI on open coolers once and my top GTX 670 was hitting 96c. A mid range Kepler hitting 96c. Pretty tragic stuff.

 

[NeverBackDown]

They are having production issues. The yields have been very poor.

As for them shipping them? if they weren't having issues they could have done that far sooner to make sure that they were available to buy for every one at launch.

AMD have totally rushed this release, and I truly believe they would have delayed it quite severely had Nvidia not released the 980

You can think that, however HBM has been mass produced for 10 months now. Which was said by SK themselves. They ship from China.. takes a long long time to move thousands of units.
Demand for review samples is not as important to them as actually selling them. They simply don't need to give every review person samples. They can share them like they usually do.

 

[Jbo1234]

Still has no issues from what I have seen for about a year now

I wouldn't purchase a card from a crap company like Nvidia. They don't exactly make me want to spend money on them with the amount of shadyness they've done recently. I won't be buying Nvidia until they sort their crap out. I'd still get a Fury X over a 980ti, they are basically neck and neck and game dependent. 980ti for benchmarking though is the clear winner, which Nvidia has been for the longest of time when pitted against it's equal AMD part.

Before anyone starts to lash out at the last comment.. don't. It's my opinion, no point in arguing over opinions

Yes, Nvidia are so bad they are getting twice the performance per watt then AMD, and they release drivers far more often rather than forcing you to use beta (like what I'm having to do to get my 290 to run GTA V properly).
You ignore the huge OC potential Nvidia has over AMD at the moment, so to say they are neck and neck is very wrong.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

I don't water cool out of AIOs mate. I just see it as a tragic waste of money that could be spent on more performance.

So many water cooled builds are woefully under specced when it comes to actual performance because of the cost of the parts. And these days it's just not worth it, you're literally doing it for the looks.

I've got an AIO on my Titan Black and it hasn't gone over 40c yet. What's the point?

I like blowers because they are pretty direct with airflow and so on. Feed them cool air in, hot air comes out the back and doesn't bother the top card or other components. I tried SLI on open coolers once and my top GTX 670 was hitting 96c. A mid range Kepler hitting 96c. Pretty tragic stuff.

"I don't water cool out of AIOs mate"

"I've got an AIO on my Titan Black"

Either I'm misunderstanding you or you've mistyped.

Water cooling is by no means a cost-effective solution. I don't think anyone is ignorant to that. I'm personally eager to try it for the experience, but also for the looks and the silence it can bring. I'm not going to get €600-800 worth of performance out of it. I know that. Air cooling is perfectly adequate for the majority of builds. But then it's all about the experience, not just raw numbers.

AIB-style SLI/Crossfire isn't something I personally recommend, but if you have adequate cooling and spacing between the cards, the top one should only be 5-10°C hotter. Which, in a cool GPU (relatively) like the 970, is not that big of a deal. You'll experience GPU Boost throttling your core clock unless you increase thermal threshold within the BIOS, but it should be perfectly fine. I've seen dozens of 970 SLI setups that weren't using blower style cards.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Yes, Nvidia are so bad they are getting twice the performance per watt then AMD, and they release drivers far more often rather than forcing you to use beta (like what I'm having to do to get my 290 to run GTA V properly).
You ignore the huge OC potential Nvidia has over AMD at the moment, so to say they are neck and neck is very wrong.

Lol arguing over my opinion. You certainly try to troll a lot^_^
Don't bother trying again and don't bother trying to reply to me in this thread, that previous discussion was off topic. If you would like to continue it move it to a new thread. Other than that stay on topic with Fury X.

 

[Kaapstad]

Looks like you're simply trying to sell yourself the card. If it was powered by pixie dust and rainbows I still wouldn't care and neither should you - you're paying for framerates, nothing more, nothing less.

Look at the benchmarks. Those "crappy" Nvidia cards are performing better than the Fury X, so unless you are buying the cards for their badge, then why wouldn't you consider the 980Ti??

Because I have got 4 EVGA SC TitanXs on water.

I try to be neutral and really don't care for all this arguing about which brand is better.

The Fury X is a very interesting card with a lot of potential.

 

[AlienALX]

You can think that, however HBM has been mass produced for 10 months now. Which was said by SK themselves. They ship from China.. takes a long long time to move thousands of units.
Demand for review samples is not as important to them as actually selling them. They simply don't need to give every review person samples. They can share them like they usually do.

I don't need to think that I've got some one who works at one of the biggest retailers in the UK, nay, Europe telling me.

And I trust him more than you, sorry.

AMD have had months and months to get this right. The fact that they haven't, in all that time they had to prepare, speaks volumes.

TBH? if they were readily available for £509 right now I would have a very hard time talking myself out of it. OCUK would not have charged £649 for it and got away with it if they were expecting masses of them soon.

It's just more bumbling but you know? I don't really care. I think this card is solid, and will replace my Titan Blacks. The fact it has hoses long enough for me to put my original plan of AIO-ing my TBs into motion means it's a simple drop in for me. I've already got the bracket and plates I need to just mount them straight in.

I vowed after -

1. Spending over £700 on two 670s only to find Nvidia released the 780 a few months after and was stranded with a poxy 2gb vram.

2. Not even getting a year out of my Titan Blacks @ £1400 before they slap me in the face.

3. The 970 "Oh sorry did we forget to tell you they're actually derped... Oops ! but hey, don't worry you'll still buy from us fork you !"

I would not touch anything Nvidia made with a large pole. So this time for me it'll be Fury (insert whichever one I opt for here ) x2 or, when the actual X2 card drops to £500 like they always do I'll bag myself one of those

Because I have got 4 EVGA SC TitanXs on water.

I try to be neutral and really don't care for all this arguing about which brand is better.

The Fury X is a very interesting card with a lot of potential.

Spoken like a true adult. I've actually had to stop looking at OCUK forums, the petulance is incredible. People posting a benchmark from HardOCP where the 980ti gets a min framerate of 29 and the AMD gets 24 like it's some massive sodding victory. Seriously, if I stick around there ATM I'll end up banned.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-369-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=3068

There you go. Nearly a month before you can even buy one for the actual RRP and you're saying they're not having issues dude? (not you Kaap).

 

[mazty]

Lol arguing over my opinion. You certainly try to troll a lot^_^
Don't bother trying again and don't bother trying to reply to me in this thread, that previous discussion was off topic. If you would like to continue it move it to a new thread. Other than that stay on topic with Fury X.

If your opinion is based on faulty logic, it's fair for someone to then correct you/point out the shortcomings of your opinion....Society today has become almost allergic to criticism :normal2:

Posts merged - Please do not double post.

Because I have got 4 EVGA SC TitanXs on water.

I try to be neutral and really don't care for all this arguing about which brand is better.

The Fury X is a very interesting card with a lot of potential.

If the regular version can be OC'd, that's where a lot of potential would be. Also, if you're getting 4 as people say, where on earth are all the fans going or you slamming them into a custom loop?

 

[Kaapstad]

If the regular version can be OC'd, that's where a lot of potential would be. Also, if you're getting 4 as people say, where on earth are all the fans going or you slamming them into a custom loop?

I will probably end up using waterblocks but my case can take 4 Fury X rads with very little effort. I use a LD V8 for that system.

 

[Mysterae]

There's no doubt that the Fury X is a great card, an initial showcase of HBM technology, but we now know it's not the Titan killer it was hyped out to be. Perhaps the next iteration of the AMD gpu with HBM will be the paradigm shift we so long for.

As someone who put off replacing their SLI 780Ti's with 980Tis, my gut feeling has now been replaced with an informed decision and that is to get 980Ti SLI after all.

For many reasons, in no particular order:

- The 980Ti is now the same price as the Fury X
- The 980Ti is available now to buy, no waiting or high price gouging
- The 980Ti is faster in the games I play
- The 980Ti is more reliable/supported in twin configuration (SLI vs CF)
- Gsync works with SLI, CF doesn't work with Freesync (last I heard)
- The 980Ti can be overclocked widening the performance gap even further
- The Fury X doesn't support HDMI 2.0, but 1.4 instead so a converter is required (if they ever come out)
- Nvidia's drivers are simply better than AMD's
- Aesthetically the 980Ti is nicer, a small issue yes, but it does matter to me
- The resale value of the 980Ti will be higher (opinion, not fact of course)
- I see the AIO of the Fury X as a hindrance, not a bonus
- If the pump goes in the Fury X the whole thing has to exchanged, where as if the pump goes in my system I can revert back to air while it's replaced
- I've not read about the speed of the pump in the Fury X being monitored, so if it fails mid-game it'll cook that chip quicker than Aunt Bessie's finest at gas mark 9
- If I hear that the drivers will be the panacea and our lord the saviour one more time...

That's a long list.

I wanted the Fury X to be awesome, I've had many ATI/AMD cpu's and gpu's in the past way back from the Athlon and 9800Pro days, but I'll be with Nvidia that bit longer.

 

[JR23]

There's no doubt that the Fury X is a great card....

List way too long. I would of just said: "I'm going to buy 980Ti's because they are bigger"


Having said that CF performance looked quite impressive in the benchmarks i've seen. I think Tom, Tom!, TOM! needs to do a CF/SLI roundup with 2x 390X's, 2x 980Ti's, 2x Titan X's and 2x Fury X's with many 4k benchmarks

JR

 

[Mysterae]

List way too long. I would of just said: "I'm going to buy 980Ti's because they are bigger"


Having said that CF performance looked quite impressive in the benchmarks i've seen. I think Tom, Tom!, TOM! needs to do a CF/SLI roundup with 2x 390X's, 2x 980Ti's, 2x Titan X's and 2x Fury X's with many 4k benchmarks

JR

So that's the only item on the list that you agree on? I can't believe that.

 

[JR23]

So that's the only item on the list that you agree on? I can't believe that.

It's the only one which would actually influence my decision to use them. I would happily overlook a lot of shortcomings for aesthetics. If it was a really small ITX rig however then much win from the short PCB, I corrected that to really small because even in my ITX rig I used a full length card to fill it out. And to demonstrate with some cunning solution you can effectively cool a high TDP card like a 290X. While it's nice AMD went with the same solution as me it does kinda spoil the fun at my end

JR

 

[Jbo1234]

Lol arguing over my opinion. You certainly try to troll a lot^_^
Don't bother trying again and don't bother trying to reply to me in this thread, that previous discussion was off topic. If you would like to continue it move it to a new thread. Other than that stay on topic with Fury X.

It's my opinion that the moon is made of cheese. See what happened there? Opinions can be total garbage and called out on.
It's on topic and you are the one derailing this thread like no tomorrow with having a go at everyone and desperate to get the last word in...which you even try to defend *facepalm*

Fact is that the Fury doesn't trump Nvidias top cards and its OC potential is less, and its price point is not lower ergo, how are AMD the good brand and Nvidia the "crap" one? How about it's a card that would have sold great if it had come out on time, but now it didn't so its marketplace is a little confused and it is not the 4k gaming beast AMD claimed it to be...rather than 100% brand bashing like your response.

 

[NeverBackDown]

If your opinion is based on faulty logic, it's fair for someone to then correct you/point out the shortcomings of your opinion....Society today has become almost allergic to criticism

if you read the posts, my opinion was based off what i thought about the company. You can't argue that. I don't see why you two feel you can argue on opinions...