AMD R9 Fury X Review

[DisturbedJim83]

After the OC3D review I read HardOCP's and wow, They really aren't impressed one bit.

I would say generally speaking to ignore HardOCP's article/ so called review given that its funny KitGuru who where refused a Fury X sample after being a bunch blatent negative nanncy's of the 390X linked to that very review of the Fury X which is about as equally negative as KitGuru is generally of anything AMD.

The short of it was that in the run up to the 300 series launch Kitguru was one of the most excessively negative and dismissive of the 300 series cards back when there was nothing but rumor and speculation to go on effectively dismissing the card before even having any benchmarks to go on.

During the entire time they harped on about the 300 series being a rebrand they utterly failed to mention the numerous instances in which Nvidia had taken a old GPU given it a new name and called it "new". AMD then tells KitGuru "on yer bike you aint getting a Fury X sample" and then 24hrs later Kitguru puts up and article citing the times Nvidia has rebranded a old GPU as "new" a coincidence? I hear the Nvidia fans saying.Sorry but I don't think so guys

For all the times Tom gets called a Nvidia fanboy I think he has proven those accusations wrong by delivering a balanced review of the Fury X if only some of the other so called "professionals" had the same journalistic integrity as Tom.

 

[Dicehunter]

Are you serious they are selling the Fury X to cheap now at a recommended price of £509. For that you are getting a card with -

HBM memory
AIO watercooler
8.9 billion transistors

These things are not cheap or easy for AMD to include in the spec for the asking price.

As to the performance once AMD get the drivers sorted for this new tech those 8.9 billion transistors will start punching their weight, remember the Titan X only packs 8 billion transistors on it's core.

Performance won't improve much and I'd much rather go for the 980 Ti which gets higher FPS and scores, Yes the AIO is nice but I'd prefer the higher performing part which is Nvidia.

Plus because of the stock shortages most people will just opt for Nvidia anyway, 2-3 weeks is a long time to wait when you are looking at GPU's ^_^

 

[Greenback]

I may have to leave this forum as I'm may be the only one who likes the dinky look of these even for a big atx case, also could be an advantage if you wanted a tube res in the bottom of your case not to be limited to the gpu height from the bottom of the case

Plus because of the stock shortages most people will just opt for Nvidia anyway, 2-3 weeks is a long time to wait when you are looking at GPU's

If they have been waiting for AMD's to bring this out another couple of weeks will make no difference imo

 

[AngryGoldfish]

I'm not sure how much performance can be gained from driver updates. DX12 will improve performance for both AMD and nVidia, as will drivers. Many have complained about poor 980ti release drivers so theoretically the 980ti will also increase with time. This is not a problem at all because it's not all about competition. I'm just saying that I can't imagine performance will reach that of the Titan X or 980ti consistently when games generally favour nVidia, the clocks on Maxwell scale higher and driver support will improve in time for both camps.

 

[shadow]

What mouse is Tom using on the test rig, is it a M65 ?

 

[Ghosthud1]

Thing that got me is this....

No voltage control on a liquid-cooled card. Why didn't AMD make sure reviewers could properly OC the card is beyond me, especially after calling the card "an overclocker's dream" at E3. I've only seen a 10% OC at launch.

It's a damn enthusiast tier card!!

 

[mazty]

Are you serious they are selling the Fury X to cheap now at a recommended price of £509. For that you are getting a card with -

HBM memory
AIO watercooler
8.9 billion transistors

These things are not cheap or easy for AMD to include in the spec for the asking price.

As to the performance once AMD get the drivers sorted for this new tech those 8.9 billion transistors will start punching their weight, remember the Titan X only packs 8 billion transistors on it's core.

All those things count for absolutely nothing - people only care about performance. Why on earth would I want HBM if a card with GDDR5 gives me better performance?? Same with everything else on the list. I'm looking for framerates, not a tech demo for my PC.

It's easy enough to say "once they get the drivers sorted" but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[TPC]

Thing that got me is this....

No voltage control on a liquid-cooled card. Why didn't AMD make sure reviewers could properly OC the card is beyond me, especially after calling the card "an overclocker's dream" at E3. I've only seen a 10% OC at launch.

Because the HBM is bound to the GPU core and rasing the core voltage would raise the mem volts too (thats how I interpreted it)

 

[Ghosthud1]

All those things count for absolutely nothing - people only care about performance. Why on earth would I want HBM if a card with GDDR5 gives me better performance?? Same with everything else on the list. I'm looking for framerates, not a tech demo for my PC.

It's easy enough to say "once they get the drivers sorted" but I'm not holding my breath.

I think sticking with HBM was a solid idea, imagine the power envolope with a full GDDR5 8GB setup :mellow:

 

[AlienALX]

Performance won't improve much and I'd much rather go for the 980 Ti which gets higher FPS and scores, Yes the AIO is nice but I'd prefer the higher performing part which is Nvidia.

Plus because of the stock shortages most people will just opt for Nvidia anyway, 2-3 weeks is a long time to wait when you are looking at GPU's ^_^

7970 came out. Many months later GTX 680 comes out and was faster. AMD go back to the drawing board, 7970 beats 680 conclusively with nothing more than a driver.

Remember - this is day one. 980ti runs on the same driver the TX uses and that's been around for ages.

£509 AIO cooled means £420 or so with a blower. I know what I'm getting...

£509 won't lasting. Again, it's day one and £509 is launch price. £400 less than Titan X launch price.

TBH? Fookin go AMD! I can't wait to get two of them.

Kaap, did you get four mate?

Also... you can't overclock them yet. You can seriously overclock a ti though!

Edit again. How are you so sure it won't improve much? This has been the most rushed release I've ever seen.

 

[Kaapstad]

All those things count for absolutely nothing - people only care about performance. Why on earth would I want HBM if a card with GDDR5 gives me better performance?? Same with everything else on the list. I'm looking for framerates, not a tech demo for my PC.

It's easy enough to say "once they get the drivers sorted" but I'm not holding my breath.

It is easy to say anything on a forum but I have some Fury Xs that will arrive tomorrow. I am prepared to see if I am right in the long term by getting the cards.

What would you recommend, that I should use crappy NVidia cards.

Kaap, did you get four mate?

Yes.

 

[Dicehunter]

It is easy to say anything on a forum but I have some Fury Xs that will arrive tomorrow. I am prepared to see if I am right in the long term by getting the cards.

What would you recommend, that I should use crappy NVidia cards.

Spending £2400 on a gamble is a little silly really and venturing dangerously close into anorak territory ^_^

And Nvidia cards can't be all that crap when they are beating the fury in most things hands down

 

[Kaapstad]

Spending £2400 on a gamble is a little silly really and venturing dangerously close into anorak territory ^_^

It is not a gamble.

No card setup can do everything, there are some things that AMD cards do better and some that NVidias do better.

Heck AMD may get out a decent CF profile for the latest Batman game before NVidia get SLI and all the other problems sorted. They did with Shadows of Mordor lol.

TWIMTBP or perhaps not.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Just remember, it ain't over yet. AMD are going to have to drop the price again. Remember, at launch you could spend over a grand on a Titan X.. Now they're £799 which is still a massive urine extraction.

However, this is the price of cards that are really hard to make. Once AMD get the production lines going in full swing they will drop. Why? because today the 980ti dropped to £509, matching the Fury.

So that means AMD need to drop the price. However I will be fair and say that the equivalent liquid cooled 980ti costs £650.

It all depends on whether these cards can be overclocked. They definitely have all of the needed things. 2x8 pin? check. water cooler, check. And so on.

They aren't having production issues. HBM has been in mass production for a while. The issue is everyone is buying them quicker than AMD can get them to stores around the world. They have the quantity, the demand is just crazy high and shipping isn't super fast when lugging around a couple thousand units.

I'll wait and see how the Fury Pro works out. Hopefully it's not a cutdown fury

 

[Dicehunter]

It is not a gamble.

No card setup can do everything, there are some things that AMD cards do better and some that NVidias do better.

Heck AMD may get out a decent CF profile for the latest Batman game before NVidia get SLI and all the other problems sorted. They did with Shadows of Mordor lol.

TWIMTBP or perhaps not.

If and this is a big IF, IF AMD pull a rabbit out of a hat and hire actual devs instead of exchange students for their driver team and it does end up being more golden shall we say, Then I might get one but the whole stock shortage is annoying especially considering you just literally bought 1/4 of the UK's allowance ^_^

 

[NeverBackDown]

If and this is a big IF, IF AMD pull a rabbit out of a hat and hire actual devs instead of exchange students for their driver team and it does end up being more golden shall we say, Then I might get one but the whole stock shortage is annoying especially considering you just literally bought 1/4 of the UK's allowance ^_^

Even if they are exchange students, their drivers are more reliable than Nvidia's are atm. Think Nvidia should start hiring exchange students now.. ^_^

 

[Dicehunter]

Even if they are exchange students, their drivers are more reliable than Nvidia's are atm. Think Nvidia should start hiring exchange students now.. ^_^

The only problem I've had in recent months was the chrome crash bug, Everything else works perfectly

 

[cooperman]

I'd be interested to see what speeds 8.6 teraflops and HBM rips through litecoin hashes. >_>

 

[NeverBackDown]

The only problem I've had in recent months was the chrome crash bug, Everything else works perfectly

Not even the "Display Driver Has Stopped Working" issue you mentioned you had in one of your Nvidia driver threads recently?

 

[Zoot]

Little disappointed that it wasn't competitive with the Titan X.

But still.. it's a massive jump from the 290X, and it's damn nice to see AMD kicking Nvidia and reminding them they're still there. ^_^