Amd build, constraints of budget.

the 8320 can go down in price in the sales, considering I got mine for £100 in a daily deal from aria back when the RRP was £120 so you might be lucky :D.

You might want to look for a 990 'board though as the cpu will work better with it.
 
the 8320 can go down in price in the sales, considering I got mine for £100 in a daily deal from aria back when the RRP was £120 so you might be lucky :D.

You might want to look for a 990 'board though as the cpu will work better with it.


Hey Barnsley! hows things? :cool: Yea if it went down to that-would be pretty sweet! Yea you're 990 board is awesome&might be able to grab that but then def a 6300. I mainly was going for the m5a97 evo as i read some people had decentish Oc (6+2 phases on the evo i think?) to about 4.5... i think :unsure:

I was also trying to find out about this:

GA-970A-UD3P (a new version with a P?) But couldnt find much apart from a polish review :P

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4717#ov

One reason i was looking at the budget was because with this breaking early, i hadnt saved enough so my loving gf offered to help out a bit until i could pay back (a few months:rolleyes:)

£100 is a steal& you got a bargain on that 990 mobo too! :P

Thanks for you're reply Barnsley,&advice, i am taking it all in & working round this build :P


Right, I'm gonna eat me some bagels!:yumyum::burger:
 
Not too bad thanks, yourself?

The 6300 is an ok processor, it can do the job well and some decent overclocks have been done on it
Well there is someone on the forums who I believe has a 97 evo r2.0 and an OC'd 8320 so I think you'd be okay with getting a semi decent OC.


Might want to watch the for sale section after Christmas, you never know what could crop up ;D.
 
Not too bad thanks, yourself?

The 6300 is an ok processor, it can do the job well and some decent overclocks have been done on it
Well there is someone on the forums who I believe has a 97 evo r2.0 and an OC'd 8320 so I think you'd be okay with getting a semi decent OC.


Might want to watch the for sale section after Christmas, you never know what could crop up ;D.
Yep i have one not much of a oc on it (i did oc it to 4.6Ghz for shits n giggles but i like my system cool n quiet so 4Ghz is fine for me)...the 97 evo has the same 6+2 digital vrm/power phase as the asus 990fx pro and with the 97 evo only beeing £70 at the moment its a bit of a bargin.

97 evo = crossfire/sli support @ x8 x8
990FX pro = crossfire/sli support @ x16 x16
Thats realy the only differnce.
 
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AMD showed a demo on a different youtube channel of a quad core Kaveri APU running BF4 at medium settings 1080p at 30fps.. Sounds pretty damn good to me! Also since it is a GCN gpu inside of it then we may be able to crossfire with a 7770 or something similar depending on the restrictions. Kaveri is definitely living up to it's name so far.

also nice grab on the arc midi r2! Great case and without a doubt a steal for what you bought it for.
 
AMD showed a demo on a different youtube channel of a quad core Kaveri APU running BF4 at medium settings 1080p at 30fps.. Sounds pretty damn good to me! Also since it is a GCN gpu inside of it then we may be able to crossfire with a 7770 or something similar depending on the restrictions. Kaveri is definitely living up to it's name so far.

also nice grab on the arc midi r2! Great case and without a doubt a steal for what you bought it for.

Aren't two 7770s as powerful as a 280x? thats a bargin if you can crossfire it with Kaveri!
 
I do not know what specific gpu is inside Kaveri. All i know is 8gcn units. Which is the exact number of units in a 7750 which leads me to believe that is the gpu. I figured this out by taking the 64 core count in a unit and multiplied by 8(for units) and got 512. Honestly not bad at all. Xfire with a 7750 would easily give a huge performance increase.
 
Happy news that AM3+ FX CPUs will live a while longer possibly into 2015 :) Quote from the AMD Developer Summit "The future of the AM3+ desktop processors will continue, the ‘performance’ range of FX CPUs will stay with its 32nm Piledriver architecture until the end of 2014 and possibly beyond that."

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No point in keeping AM3+ alive with the same shit for another 2 years.. Needs steamroller badly otherwise it is a waste. Seems like they truly are backing out of the mainstream CPU market.
 
Whoa... I only just tried this multi quote thing, lets hope it works!:lol::coffee: :wiggle: Thanks for all the replies aswell guys!:rock:

Not too bad thanks, yourself?

The 6300 is an ok processor, it can do the job well and some decent overclocks have been done on it
Well there is someone on the forums who I believe has a 97 evo r2.0 and an OC'd 8320 so I think you'd be okay with getting a semi decent OC.


Might want to watch the for sale section after Christmas, you never know what could crop up ;D.

I'm all good thanks man! Getting more cold as winter closes in, hoping for snow :p

Yeah, I was hoping 6300 would be ok for gaming if i could (try) to oc it with that board to about 4-4.5. Even though black friday is kinda usa only, i scoured amazon uk for a bit lol :rolleyes: :p Its tough with the 8320 being £30 from the 6300.



Yep i have one not much of a oc on it (i did oc it to 4.6Ghz for shits n giggles but i like my system cool n quiet so 4Ghz is fine for me)...the 97 evo has the same 6+2 digital vrm/power phase as the asus 990fx pro and with the 97 evo only beeing £70 at the moment its a bit of a bargin.

97 evo = crossfire/sli support @ x8 x8
990FX pro = crossfire/sli support @ x16 x16
Thats realy the only differnce.

Hey cooperman! Thats good to know you can pull off a nice oc with that evo board :wiggle: Yea the price&reviews (£75 on amazon atm i think) Made me seriously consider it if i was going for a 970 chipset.


AMD showed a demo on a different youtube channel of a quad core Kaveri APU running BF4 at medium settings 1080p at 30fps.. Sounds pretty damn good to me! Also since it is a GCN gpu inside of it then we may be able to crossfire with a 7770 or something similar depending on the restrictions. Kaveri is definitely living up to it's name so far.

also nice grab on the arc midi r2! Great case and without a doubt a steal for what you bought it for.

Hey NeverBackDown! Yea, i saw it on sale/offer&watched stock go down to 4, then quickly made the purchase :p You know i was really torn because the r4(with window)was on offer for £75 that night(soon went back up :p)
Yea I've been toying with the idea of grabbing a fm2+ mobo (was looking at the gigabyte sniper thing too), grabbing an athlon 760k (£65) then updating that at a later date. The apu's did look pretty good, just unsure if it would fare better than the fx (was trying to find benchmarks on bf4/athlon as the 6300 performed pretty good) It's mainly between those two builds.


I do not know what specific gpu is inside Kaveri. All i know is 8gcn units. Which is the exact number of units in a 7750 which leads me to believe that is the gpu. I figured this out by taking the 64 core count in a unit and multiplied by 8(for units) and got 512. Honestly not bad at all. Xfire with a 7750 would easily give a huge performance increase.

I think it is around a 7750 (im not 100% sure :p) And i could be wrong but if they had ddr4 ram in place it might have got to a 7790? Again not 100% sure :p



Happy news that AM3+ FX CPUs will live a while longer possibly into 2015 :) Quote from the AMD Developer Summit "The future of the AM3+ desktop processors will continue, the ‘performance’ range of FX CPUs will stay with its 32nm Piledriver architecture until the end of 2014 and possibly beyond that."

CvRdIZF.jpg

Hey Wraithguard! Yea, was interesting to see the roadmap! I was also hoping they would show off a few of their new chips aswell. So it does look like the 9 series *might* be the last if they try for ddr 4 with am4 (heres hoping :p) in 2015 maybe? What is also interesting is (i think) Fm2+ will be replaced at the end of 2014 for poss Fm3(maybe ddr4?), thanks for posting the chart Wraithguard :D



No point in keeping AM3+ alive with the same shit for another 2 years.. Needs steamroller badly otherwise it is a waste. Seems like they truly are backing out of the mainstream CPU market.

They do seem to be consolidating, what made me wonder was the *gaming* type motherboards starting to release (the sniper thing, a very nice looking up4&an Asus). I think at the end of 2014(as with Fx) they might be changing socket, but im not 100% sure.

So i coud grab a 6300/asus 970 and get (hopefully) nice frames in say bf4, or grab a new fm2+ Mobo/athlon 760k & hope they release a great cpu/apu. The cost between these builds is only really about £10/20, was trying to find out reviews etc for the 760k, though not too many about.

Right! I think i quoted all this right! I hope anyway :p Thanks for all of your replies guys! I think its time for a ...:alcoholic:Ooops, i mean :coffee: :p
 
So i coud grab a 6300/asus 970 and get (hopefully) nice frames in say bf4, or grab a new fm2+ Mobo/athlon 760k & hope they release a great cpu/apu. The cost between these builds is only really about £10/20, was trying to find out reviews etc for the 760k, though not too many about.

Right! I think i quoted all this right! I hope anyway :p Thanks for all of your replies guys! I think its time for a ...:alcoholic:Ooops, i mean :coffee: :p
I can vouch for the 6300 being good in BF4. My friend has a 6350 (at stock) and a 660 in his rig and the cpu doesn't give the game any grief. Other games the 6300 is an alright performer but if you want to OC it then you'll be fine for a couple of years. The AM3+ being etended further also means if you need more cpu grunt you'll probably just pickup an 8320/8350. The athlon is a surprisingly good performer for the price but it does lack performance in Battlefield.
 
I can vouch for the 6300 being good in BF4. My friend has a 6350 (at stock) and a 660 in his rig and the cpu doesn't give the game any grief. Other games the 6300 is an alright performer but if you want to OC it then you'll be fine for a couple of years. The AM3+ being etended further also means if you need more cpu grunt you'll probably just pickup an 8320/8350. The athlon is a surprisingly good performer for the price but it does lack performance in Battlefield.


Hey Barnsley (&Neverbackdown, et all!) Apologies for my absence/AWOL! I still haven't purchased anything! (facepalm) With me procrastinating, & clicking driving me mad (i would like to be more active on this great site), reading so much crap&seeing what amd had planned :microwave: (impersonation of me)

The main reason i was speaking of bf4, was mainly due to benching of future games - i will probably get it at somepoint, but not for a while! That's cool to know on the 6300! The 760k i've pretty much let go of now. Anyways...

I had been pricing up the 8320 build which came to around £495 (with a thermalright truespirit 140 cooler) But, i started to price up an intel-ish build, however that would be a 4570(so no oc) with a h87 mobo& a 520w psu compared to 620, that came to around £10 cheaper.

I was/have been trying to find/read how that 4570 compared to an oc'ed 8320 (obv single core perf higher, but overall gains- was also thinking of the fullload for psu/leccy etc...) But no overclock.

So it's pretty much down to these two (as much as i'd love a 4670k, it went close to £550- just too much for me :mellow:) of the 4570 or the 8320.

Ok sorry for going on&rambling:huh: the builds would be!

[4570]

Microsoft Windows 8 Standard 64 bit

Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 4Gb)

WD 1TB 3.5 inch Blue

Dvd Drive

Corsair SP120 120mm

Gigabyte H87-HD3

Intel Core i5 4570

Seasonic S12II-520

£470-80

[8320]

Microsoft Windows 8 Standard 64 bit

Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 4Gb)

WD 1TB 3.5 inch Blue

Dvd Drive

Corsair SP120 120mm

Asus M5a97 Evo

Amd 8320

Seasonic S12II-620

&Thermalright true spirit 140

£485-95

Now with the amd build i get that beastly looking cooler, but with intel at stock i coud use the stock cooler (but god i hate those pins!) Just thinking of future gen (4 cores vs 8 etc...)

Anyway sorry for rambling on, & i hope you guys are well!
 
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Well the thing with the i5 is it will do fine and you can pick up a 4670k down the line if you want to. It really depends on the games you play bud :). If its more along the lines of Battlefield than I'd say AMD but if its more like DayZ/Arma I'd go intel.
 
Well the thing with the i5 is it will do fine and you can pick up a 4670k down the line if you want to. It really depends on the games you play bud :). If its more along the lines of Battlefield than I'd say AMD but if its more like DayZ/Arma I'd go intel.


Hey man! Omg, my pc went crazy when i logged in to reply (browser resetting, all icons being clicked when clicking desktop... then i had to belt it to asda before they shut! Phew, back now though! :crazy:

Yeah, thats cool man, i (as usual :p) priced up the 8320, then thought... hey, how about this... That is a good point though Barnsley! I could grab a z87 mobo even with a 4570, incase i grab a k chip down the line. I'm not 100% sure on all the games i'd be playing, but bf4 i would probably check out (lets hope it's still bundled with the r9's in the future ;))But dayZ/Arma3 are tempting too, oh god my poor brain!

I was looking into the non k chip&seeing how it compared to the 8320, before i bit the bullet, so to speak! :p(& the horrible intel stock cooler;)) And the no Oc'ing of that chip in question.

But i shall try to read random things on the comparisons,& of course let you guys know& then be able to actually type! Wahey!:cool: I will be ordering within the week, but you know me!:p

I hope your all good man, i might ramble on more in a bit with ruthlessly long posts!

Still reading up :p Just posting to say i'm nearly doing a 180' and heavily looking into an i5 of some sort! Oh&gratz Neverbackdown on turning red! :cool:

Will report back soon! (ofc any thoughts will be...er... thought about!)- sorry joking heh, but yeah appreciate all of your feedback from the very beginning :)
 
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The 8320 is great unless you do rendering/play arma games. Non K i5s are alright, they're more balanced compared to the game heavy focus of the 8320. to put into perspective my rig will happily keep up with an i5 on most games (if they have the same/similar gpu) but is waaay slower for rendering videos. Its faster than an i3 and probably the base i5 but apart from that...
 
Watch out for double posting pal. Its frowned upon here with good reason. Try to remember to use the edit button. :)
 
The 8320 is great unless you do rendering/play arma games. Non K i5s are alright, they're more balanced compared to the game heavy focus of the 8320. to put into perspective my rig will happily keep up with an i5 on most games (if they have the same/similar gpu) but is waaay slower for rendering videos. Its faster than an i3 and probably the base i5 but apart from that...

Thats cool barnsley, quite a tough call as the 8320 is a nice price chip&performance, i was looking into it mainly as i priced it up lowering the psu/cpu cooler, a tough call!

Watch out for double posting pal. Its frowned upon here with good reason. Try to remember to use the edit button. :)


Yeah, sorry... my bad, apologies! Just in a rush to get into town :rolleyes:

Thanks for the replies guys!
 
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