900D Build Log - Green and Black watercooled.

alpenwasser said:
Haha, yeah I got that. It's sort of obvious in context :lol: The headscratcher
was more intended towards 80plus and the titanium rating not being available
on 115 V. I haven't done any further reading up on this so I'm not really sure
what the situation is in detail. I just quoted Wikipedia and was wondering if I
had understood the situation correctly ;)
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I bet we'll find out in the coming months?
 
Shouldnt the pump always be in the bottom of the loop? (Im not familiar with watercooling but thought i heard that this for some reason was "vital" in one of Singularitys Utube-vids.)
 
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Lystfiskern said:
Shouldnt the pump always be in the bottom of the loop? (Im not familiar with watercooling but thought i heard that this for some reason was "vital" in one of Singularitys Utube-vids.)
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It should be below the reservoir so that the coolant can flow from the res into
the pump. Usually you use the reservoir to fill the system (there's fill ports,
but most of the builds I've seen use a res for this).

Since the pumps used in watercooling can only work when there is coolant in
them (meaning they cannot "suck" coolant into themselves and then pump it
out again, it needs to flow into the pump and can only then be pumped out),
you need the pump to be lower than the point at which you fill in the coolant
in order to be able to fill the loop.
 
Yup thats seems logical. He also had mounted fill and drain-ports in the roof and bottom of the chassis for easy maintenance of the loop.
Maybe that could be an idea for you as well GregP?
 
Lystfiskern said:
Yup thats seems logical. He also had mounted fill and drain-ports in the roof and bottom of the chassis for easy maintenance of the loop.
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Yeah that is helpful as well. It helps to have ports on top for letting air in
when you have drain ports in the bottom. I'm planning something like that
for HELIOS as well, it does make replacing the fluid easier, particularly if
you have laid out your loop so that there are few dead spots where coolant
can sit without flowing out at the bottom (sometimes these can't be avoided
of course).

Open the loop at the top, put a container below the drain port, open the
drain port and wait. Well, it's not quite that easy usually, but almost ;)
 
GregPalos said:
I don't quite understand what you mean by fill and drain ports?
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Basically you take a T piece or something like that and route it to the top of
the loop. Then you do the same thing at the bottom.

At the end of the tube that goes to the top, you connect something like this.
And at the bottom you can connect a quick disconnect or a plug.

When you wish to fill the system, you open the fill port on top and fill in the coolant.
And when you wish to drain the system, you open the fill port on top and the
drain port at the bottom so that the coolant can easily flow out (it can flow
out a lot better if air can easily enter the system to replace the outgoing
coolant, hence you open the top fill port for draining as well).
 
alpenwasser said:
Basically you take a T piece or something like that and route it to the top of
the loop. Then you do the same thing at the bottom.

At the end of the tube that goes to the top, you connect something like this.
And at the bottom you can connect a quick disconnect or a plug.

When you wish to fill the system, you open the fill port on top and fill in the coolant.
And when you wish to drain the system, you open the fill port on top and the
drain port at the bottom so that the coolant can easily flow out (it can flow
out a lot better if air can easily enter the system to replace the outgoing
coolant, hence you open the top fill port for draining as well).
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yeah but in a case like the 900D with a massive window it'll be hard to put that there without it looking ugly? and i guess when i have the case you can help me work it out! :)
 
GregPalos said:
yeah but in a case like the 900D with a massive window it'll be hard to put that there without it looking ugly? and i guess when i have the case you can help me work it out! :)
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That's the spirit! :rock:

I'm really looking forward to you getting the case, can't wait to see what you
do with it :dribble:
 
alpenwasser said:
That's the spirit! :rock:

I'm really looking forward to you getting the case, can't wait to see what you
do with it :dribble:
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I'm about to buy a 360mm 60mm triple radiator when you compare a phobya g changer V2 against a EK XTX is the 30 quid worth it?

what about Thermochill TA Series 360mm Triple Radiator : TA120.3 ? its 69.99? between both of those two?
 
GregPalos said:
I'm about to buy a 360mm 60mm triple radiator when you compare a phobya g changer V2 against a EK XTX is the 30 quid worth it?
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See Martin's review here. The rad seems to be pretty good, but whether or
not that's worth the extra money for you only you can decide. I also recommend
having a look at the Alphacool NexXxos Full Copper UT60 (I have one of
those, it's very nice, and there's also a review of it on Martin's site).

Martin's liquid lab is generally the review site I visit first and trust the
most, and I'm sure many in the community feel the same. He's very
thorough, and importantly, clearly describes how he tests things.

GregPalos said:
what about Thermochill TA Series 360mm Triple Radiator : TA120.3 ? its 69.99? between both of those two?
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Thermochill used to be pretty good, but from what I've read they seem to have
fallen behind the curve a bit lately. It's been years since I last heard of them...
well, at all, tbh.
 
alpenwasser said:
See Martin's review here. The rad seems to be pretty good, but whether or
not that's worth the extra money for you only you can decide. I also recommend
having a look at the Alphacool NexXxos Full Copper UT60 (I have one of
those, it's very nice, and there's also a review of it on Martin's site).

Martin's liquid lab is generally the review site I visit first and trust the
most, and I'm sure many in the community feel the same. He's very
thorough, and importantly, clearly describes how he tests things.



Thermochill used to be pretty good, but from what I've read they seem to have
fallen behind the curve a bit lately. It's been years since I last heard of them...
well, at all, tbh.
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between the ek and the alphacool which would you go for if you had the choice again. read both reviews.. he isn't very specific about what the thinks about them XD
 
GregPalos said:
between the ek and the alphacool which would you go for if you had the choice again. read both reviews.. he isn't very specific about what the thinks about them XD
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Probably the UT60. Reason being primarily the lower price, the more compact
dimensions (6 mm less wide can make a difference, depending on your case),
equal performance, the protective bits of metal that prevent you from screwing
your bolts into the tubs/fins (I actually have been there :rolleyes: ) and depending
on your loop, the two G1/4" threads that go straight out of the end chambers
(can make life easier and a loop neater, depending on your situation).

However, I actually really like the stamped look of the XTX, and for that reason
alone I am (hypothetically speaking ;)) not yet fully on side AC's side.

Damn it, this is hard, even hypothetically! Must be even worse for you :lol:

Do you have the room for an Alphacool Monsta Radiator with push/pull?
If you do, I would consider that as an option as well. If you want to run
one of those rads without insane fan speeds they should have push/pull,
which takes up a lot of room, but that setup would actually offer a
measurable performance benefit.

I have only found one review that tests the Monsta in push/pull,
and it's in German, but I'm sure you'll be able to figure the graphs out (the
first one is 3 fans, the second temperature graph is 6 fans) ;).

If I had free choice I might also consider the SR-1 (I have bought the
560 version, after all), but price/performance on those is not very good.
I just really like their looks and am a sucker for stunning build quality,
for which they have no equal that I know of.
 
alpenwasser said:
Probably the UT60. Reason being primarily the lower price, the more compact
dimensions (6 mm less wide can make a difference, depending on your case),
equal performance, the protective bits of metal that prevent you from screwing
your bolts into the tubs/fins (I actually have been there :rolleyes: ) and depending
on your loop, the two G1/4" threads that go straight out of the end chambers
(can make life easier and a loop neater, depending on your situation).

However, I actually really like the stamped look of the XTX, and for that reason
alone I am (hypothetically speaking ;)) not yet fully on side AC's side.

Damn it, this is hard, even hypothetically! Must be even worse for you :lol:

Do you have the room for an Alphacool Monsta Radiator with push/pull?
If you do, I would consider that as an option as well. If you want to run
one of those rads without insane fan speeds they should have push/pull,
which takes up a lot of room, but that setup would actually offer a
measurable performance benefit.

I have only found one review that tests the Monsta in push/pull,
and it's in German, but I'm sure you'll be able to figure the graphs out (the
first one is 3 fans, the second temperature graph is 6 fans) ;).

If I had free choice I might also consider the SR-1 (I have bought the
560 version, after all), but price/performance on those is not very good.
I just really like their looks and am a sucker for stunning build quality,
for which they have no equal that I know of.
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you know what I'll do? I'll wait till tomorrow for toms review and what he says about rads :D but thats awesome advice that I hope a lot of people will get to read (Y) awesome help man!^_^
 
GregPalos said:
you know what I'll do? I'll wait till tomorrow for toms review and what he says about rads :D but thats awesome advice that I hope a lot of people will get to read (Y) awesome help man!^_^
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That actually sound like a very reasonable approach.

And thanks for the kind words, it's nice to see one's efforts appreciated :)
 
alpenwasser said:
That actually sound like a very reasonable approach.

And thanks for the kind words, it's nice to see one's efforts appreciated :)
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After your help and toms video i'm going for the Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 360mm Triple Radiator! then I'll order the 900D ! and once i have the case and I see the fans those "awful" sickle flows I'll make buy 4 spectre pros!
 
GregPalos said:
After your help and toms video i'm going for the Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 360mm Triple Radiator! then I'll order the 900D ! and once i have the case and I see the fans those "awful" sickle flows I'll make buy 4 spectre pros!
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Sounds good. I have many Spectre Pros (both in 140, and 120) and am so far
very pleased with them, although obviously I have not yet done long term
testing since I'm only just now putting together my build.

But they undervolt very well without producing bearing noises, and at least
the 140 version produces quite a decent amount of air flow on full tilt :)
 
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