3DMark06 sub par performance with Q6600/8800GT

name='hawkinsa21' said:
Its the core speed that is low, isn't it supposed to be showing something like 2400Mhz??

I have disabled EIST, C1E, and the Thermal thingy as well...

One word.....Vista.

I spent AAAAAAGES trying to work out why my CPU speed was fluctuating like C1E was enabled, and eventually I found out loads of other people were complaining about it too. Vista seems to ignore/override the C1E setting on some motherboards. In this case it was an Abit..not sure about other boards.
 
name='XMS' said:
One word.....Vista.

I spent AAAAAAGES trying to work out why my CPU speed was fluctuating like C1E was enabled, and eventually I found out loads of other people were complaining about it too. Vista seems to ignore/override the C1E setting on some motherboards. In this case it was an Abit..not sure about other boards.

Thanks XMS, thats a relief that I'm not going mad. lol

So, I guess my next question is that am I meant to be seeing 2.4Ghz in the core speed??? Here it just looks to me like 1.24Ghz :(

EDIT: PS just ran SuperPi, and got 45sec @ 1M..... something looks wrong there

I'm gonna reset CMOS and start over
 
name='hawkinsa21' said:
Thanks XMS, thats a relief that I'm not going mad. lol

So, I guess my next question is that am I meant to be seeing 2.4Ghz in the core speed??? Here it just looks to me like 1.24Ghz :(

You will probably only see it jump to 2.4 when the processor is not idle. Try Prime95 or SPI to see if it bumps back up.

...And ye 45sec is pretty shoddy for ur setup
 
45 seconds is appalling

Make sure you've disabled:

Speedstep

C1E

Thermal Throttling.

Vista is NOT the issue here, I have an IP35 Pro running Vista Ultimate and have no issues like that

If you need me to come take a look gimme a shout Al
 
OK so here's what I have (remember I'm using a golden Xeon that gets 3.3Ghz @ 1.275v)

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Failing copying that I dunno what other BIOS settings you would do

Actually just noticed my RAM isn't at 1100MHz...must sort that out :p
 
Thanks Kempy, checked it all and its all good. Same as you bud...

Please stare in amazement at my new and improved 3DMark06 score, it rocks... remember, Q6600, 2gb Corsair Dominator, 8800gt, Abit IP-35

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I just don't know what to do... should I start looking at RMA'ing any of the parts??

I will reset the CMOS again and do a test from scratch, ALL defaults.

Off to bed now though, might dream of an AMD XP 2200 thrashing my quaddy in SuperPi... thats a nightmare I know, but more likely a reality for me at present... :o
 
theres deffo something wrong there somewhere

are you certain that your "External Clock" option in the BIOS is set correctly ?

usually if it's a speedstep problem, the multiplier drops and the bus speed stays the same *shrug*

with those settings above, you are running with FSB and MEM at half speed and with seriously reduced bandwidth
 
name='Pyr0' said:
theres deffo something wrong there somewhere

are you certain that your "External Clock" option in the BIOS is set correctly ?

usually if it's a speedstep problem, the multiplier drops and the bus speed stays the same *shrug*

with those settings above, you are running with FSB and MEM at half speed and with seriously reduced bandwidth

Hey Pyr0, thanks for your reply.

The external clock is set to 277Mhz, x 9 should be around 2493Mhz... so that looks fine.

I have reset the CMOS many times now, and tried all sorts of configs. The last reset the only thing I changed was turning off the thermal features, C1E and EIST... still get totally rubbish core speed... I just don't know... I have even tried JUST default BIOS, as I did get 9027 3DMark06 points at first, but its all gone downhill since then. Its definately the CPU thats showing as being rubbish, but could the memory affect this??

Can anyone suggest what things to try? Should I try the memory in the other memory slots?? They are dual channel in the two blue slots, so I could try the blacks... ??

Is it worth reseating the proccy?? I can't see that that would matter though as its stable and temps are low
 
name='ken_shiro' said:
What drivers were you using? Make sure you get the latest ones. Could you post the break down of your score?

Drivers are Nvidia 169.04

My CPU is the slow one though, I'm sure of it... CPU-Z shows its running at half its speed... even under full load with that stepping thing turned off, it doesn't peak any higher than 1224Mhz. I'll see if I can post a more detailed run of my score tomorrow.

I haven't updated my BIOS yet... and there are revisions... one fixes some compatibility issues with certain types of memory... thats gotta be worth a shot?? My BIOS shows the CPU should be running at 2.4Ghz, but it doesn't in Windows. That'll be the first thing I check tomorrow...

Thanks for your help mate on this :)
 
thanks hatman, I''ve checked on boot up, and the BIOS ID is 14, which looks to be the current up to date version for this board...

Just testing again by resetting CMOS and will try everything at stock default again...
 
ROFL!!!!

Reset the CMOS, so everything is running at default, nothing changed in the BIOS, so speed stepping is on and RAM is running with auto settings...

Check it....



SuperPi just hit an all high rubbish score of 1M in 47seconds... and even then being under load, the core didn't pass 1224Mhz

I'm going to ring Scan technical support at 10:30 to see if they are aware of this issue as well... can't hurt can it?

Any other suggestions, let me know...

Could my memory be incompatible with my board?? I would have thought I'd have had errors etc... ??
 
Thought I'd put up my CPU-Z dump, well, hopefully the important bits of it.

This is with C1E disabled... thermal / speed stepping is still in place.

Disabling the speed stepping only increases the core Mhz to 1224 though...

Sorry if this is too much info guys :(

Processors Information

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Processor 1 (ID = 0)

Number of cores 4

Number of threads 4 (max 4)

Name Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600

Codename Kentsfield

Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz

Package Socket 775 LGA (platform ID = 4h)

CPUID 6.F.B

Extended CPUID 6.F

Core Stepping G0

Technology 65 nm

Core Speed 816.1 MHz (6.0 x 136.0 MHz) - removing speed stepping puts the multiplier to 9, hence the 1224Mhz top core clock I have been mentioning lol

Rated Bus speed 544.0 MHz

Stock frequency 2400 MHz

Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T

L1 Data cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size

L1 Instruction cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size

L2 cache 2 x 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size

FID/VID Control yes

FID range 6.0x - 9.0x

max VID 1.188 V

Features XD, VT

816.1 MHz (6.0 x 136.0 MHz) - 136.0 MHz is exactly half of what is showing in my BIOS, it is set to 272.0 MHz....

Chipset

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Northbridge Intel P35/G33/G31 rev. A2

Southbridge Intel 82801IR (ICH9R) rev. 02

Graphic Interface PCI-Express

PCI-E Link Width x4

PCI-E Max Link Width x16

Memory Type DDR2

Memory Size 2048 MBytes

Channels Dual (Symmetric)

Memory Frequency 204.0 MHz (2:3)

CAS# 5.0

RAS# to CAS# 5

RAS# Precharge 5

Cycle Time (tRAS) 18

Command Rate 2T

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DIMM #1

General

Memory type DDR2

Module format Regular UDIMM

Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)

Size 1024 MBytes

Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)

Part number CM2X1024-8500C5D

Serial number FFFFFFFF

Manufacturing date Week 165/Year 165

Attributes

Number of banks 2

Data width 64 bits

Correction None

Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts

EPP yes (1 profiles)

XMP no

Timings table

Frequency (MHz) 270 400

CAS# 4.0 5.0

RAS# to CAS# delay 4 5

RAS# Precharge 4 5

TRAS 13 18

TRC 15 22

EPP profile 1 (full)

Voltage level 2.200 Volts

Address Command Rate 2T

Cycle time 1.875 ns (533.3 MHz)

tCL 5.0 clocks

tRCD 5 clocks (9.25 ns)

tRP 5 clocks (9.25 ns)

tRAS 15 clocks (28.00 ns)

tRC 22 clocks (41.00 ns)

tWR 8 clocks (15.00 ns)

DIMM #2

General

Memory type DDR2

Module format Regular UDIMM

Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)

Size 1024 MBytes

Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)

Part number CM2X1024-8500C5D

Serial number FFFFFFFF

Manufacturing date Week 165/Year 165

Attributes

Number of banks 2

Data width 64 bits

Correction None

Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts

EPP yes (1 profiles)

XMP no

Timings table

Frequency (MHz) 270 400

CAS# 4.0 5.0

RAS# to CAS# delay 4 5

RAS# Precharge 4 5

TRAS 13 18

TRC 15 22

EPP profile 1 (full)

Voltage level 2.200 Volts

Address Command Rate 2T

Cycle time 1.875 ns (533.3 MHz)

tCL 5.0 clocks

tRCD 5 clocks (9.25 ns)

tRP 5 clocks (9.25 ns)

tRAS 15 clocks (28.00 ns)

tRC 22 clocks (41.00 ns)

tWR 8 clocks (15.00 ns)

Disabling EIST, C1E and speed stepping as well as manually entering my RAM info only puts the core up to 1224Mhz...

Every other post on the net with the symptoms of this seems to always get fixed with manually entering the memory settings, and then disabling EIST, C1E and speed stepping... I just dont know where to go next, other than Scan tech support... for all intents and purposes, once speed stepping is removed, and its at 1224MHz, thats exactly half of what I should be getting! Something is restricting it, and I just can't think of what.

Thanks again guys,

Kempy, you might need to come take a look bro ?? Wave your magic wand at me PC lol
 
Right, fixed the low Core CPU levels! Get in there! :D

Needed to swap the Dimms into the black slots, rather than the blue slots. CPU is dandy now... thanks very much guys for all your help, you have all contributed to making my knowledge better than it was a few days ago - so a big cheesy 'thumbsup' to you all.

My actual 3DMark06 score still sucks, but I will either start a new thread on that now that I've got the CPU up to stock again, and also so as not to confuse things... my inital post slid very very quickly into a witch hunt lol

Cheers guys

Alex
 
I`m not completely aware of what the issue was here.

Is it down to ur memory & mobo `prefering` the black slots ? Or is it blue/black on the mobo that way by design ?

Thinking logically, I would have expected the cpu to perform at @least it`s stock level by sticking 1 stick of anything in any slot.
 
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