295X2 Questions
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steverebo
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I think the growth of vram will slow down once dx12 is here, from what I have read DX12 deals with textures differently allowing better more efficient use of available vram.
I think stacking vram will happen as its now common knowledge that its a feature of DX12 and Im sure Microsoft discussed this with the gpu vendors before announcing it.
I think the release of DX12 will be a monumental change in the way current gpu's work
I think stacking vram will happen as its now common knowledge that its a feature of DX12 and Im sure Microsoft discussed this with the gpu vendors before announcing it.
I think the release of DX12 will be a monumental change in the way current gpu's work
AlienALX
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Problem is that all takes time. I reckon it will be at least two years from launch that we see proper DX12 titles taking advantage of all of the new features.
So what do you do 'til then with this console slop eating VRAM?
BTW just noticed you're from Croydon. I used to live in Mitcham so I feel for you.....
Kaapstad
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It is also a feature of Mantle but it has never been implemented.
I suspect that if a game supported stacked vram it would run really really bad as the rest of the PC would not be up to the job (too much work for the CPU/PCI-E 3.0).
Dawelio
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What do I have?... Corsair HX750i, ASUS Strix 980 and a regular BenQ 24" monitor.
Just thinking of getting the ASUS Swift 27" 1440p 144Hz monitor and thinking after all of this that my 980 might not cope with it? :mellow:...
That might be true dude... although, I've never really been a fan of more than 1 card, I've always liked to have a single card, don't know why though. So that's why I'm thinking of maybe an upgrade would be the best path for me?...
That might be true my friend, but as I mentioned above, I'm not a huge fan of mulitple graphics cards, especially since I'm on mATX platform (not as much cooling potential as an ATX one, I assume)...
Btw guys, I just looked out of curiousity and the Titan X only have blower style cooler?, aren't there any after market coolers such as the Strix, or are they coming?...
falkonIndian
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Nvidia doesn't permit third party coolers on titan cards. Titan or titan X.
Dawelio
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Ohhh.... didn't know that, but now I do though. Thanks.
Anyone that can confirm how those coolers are?... loud, quiet, average/OK? :huh:
AlienALX
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Titan X cooler is pants. They're noisy and can't keep up at moderate levels, so the card ends up throttling.
Theoretically it's pretty much the same cooler the original had, yet full fat Maxwell needs more cooling. So you're pretty much looking at after market cooling or one of those AIO adapters.
You can run the fans on high (80-100%) but then they make a ton of noise.
Dawelio
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So what's my best option here then?, a Titan X or any other card?...
As my retailers only have Titan X's, I might need to expand my search and go onto overclockers.co.uk. Or do you have any other recommendations, I live in Sweden by the way?
shambles1980
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Problem is that all takes time. I reckon it will be at least two years from launch that we see proper DX12 titles taking advantage of all of the new features.
So what do you do 'til then with this console slop eating VRAM?
BTW just noticed you're from Croydon. I used to live in Mitcham so I feel for you.....
Some game devs "ea mainly" are pushing to totally abandon dx 11 for new games the instant dx 12 drops.
they are arguing "and probably correctly"
if you want next gen gaming then you have to just stop using dx 11 the second you can..
This is a bit of a problem though because some people who may have something like a hd 5770 or gtx 470
"1st gen dx 11 cards"
would not really be able to play the new games at any where near acceptable levels compared to the 980 users and so on.
"But honestly, how the hell is that any different from dx 11, it will just be a bigger margin"
I personally think "IMO" that if you are a pc gamer you will be upgrading to the newest GPU.
"or atleast one that supports as many if not all the features of the games you want to play, Or let you play the games that you want to play at a level acceptable to you any way.. as pc gamers it is what we do"
this would again leave the people who want to stay with an older OS with little to no choice when it came to playing the newest games.
But again this is no different to what we do already, its just a faster transition period.
Personally "my self" I think for 1ce it is actually the right move. and i hope more game devs get behind the idea.
I see it as a way to force gpu mfrs to churn out more affordable "mid ish" gaming gpus with full dx 12 functionality.
I am however pretty sure that most if not ALL dx 11 cards will at the very least have some dx 12 functionality.
But for game devs to be able to get the most out of the API, they really do need for pc gamers to all be on full dx 12 support cards ASAP.
If they push for dx 12 only games from start, and mfrs get some reasonable hardware in the midrange " i am talking £120 mark here"
(800mhz gpu 1200mhz 2gb gddr) that are fully dx 12 compliant then they can really get those games up to speed.
if we have to hang about year after year waiting for the dx 9c card users to upgrade to dx11 Just so we can have the option to enable dx 12 support in what is really a dx 11 game with some coding, then we will not get the full benefit..
Personally i hate ea, truly despise them and will never buy a ea product. "hell i wont even pirate it" But for 1ce i think they have the right idea.
When a change like this is promising so much you just have to push through and make it happen as quick as possible.
I know its not the same, but if the industrial revolution waited around for others to catch up we would still be traveling around on steam trains.
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AlienALX
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Wait for the AMD 390x to drop which will bring the real Titan card about. Now just isn't the right time to buy unless you can afford the asking price for the Titan X and simply don't care how much money you spend.
Fact is within three months we are going to have a 6gb Titan X that costs £400 less than the one we have now. Is 6gb more VRAM worth £400 to you?
Nvidia are just taking the piss because they can. AMD have nothing on the table so they can charge whatever they want for the Titan X. I mean seriously? Titan? that name should not even exist and wouldn't if AMD stopped messing up. But their timing ever since the 7970 has been bloody awful and because of that Nvidia have invented new ways to sell a GPU, stupid new names and stupid prices.
When the 7970 launched Nvidia had the 580 out and the 7970 was far better than the 580. It took Nvidia ages to come in with Kepler but ever since they did AMD have fallen behind and keep getting to market second.
I dunno dude. It's your money and your life I guess is the short answer
I would be a hypocrite if I said "All out no" because I own two Titans myself. There just wasn't anything else truly appropriate when I bought them. I mean shit, I could have bought three 780s but had I? man, I would have kicked myself so hard when the VRAM ran out.
Dawelio
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So you won't ever buy any Battlefield game then?... as in it's heart, it's DICE's game, not EA's. EA simply bhought up DICE, but in it's heart, it's DICE's game.
Wait for the AMD 390x to drop which will bring the real Titan card about. Now just isn't the right time to buy unless you can afford the asking price for the Titan X and simply don't care how much money you spend.
Fact is within three months we are going to have a 6gb Titan X that costs £400 less than the one we have now. Is 6gb more VRAM worth £400 to you?
Nvidia are just taking the piss because they can. AMD have nothing on the table so they can charge whatever they want for the Titan X. I mean seriously? Titan? that name should not even exist and wouldn't if AMD stopped messing up. But their timing ever since the 7970 has been bloody awful and because of that Nvidia have invented new ways to sell a GPU, stupid new names and stupid prices.
When the 7970 launched Nvidia had the 580 out and the 7970 was far better than the 580. It took Nvidia ages to come in with Kepler but ever since they did AMD have fallen behind and keep getting to market second.
I dunno dude. It's your money and your life I guess is the short answer
Yeah true that... might try and see if I can return my 980, hold on a little longer and wait and see untill the 390X (is that name even confirmed guys? :huh
comes around and see what the market has to offer. But you're absolutely right though, £400 for 6GB more Vram, that is just insane, like shooting yourself in the foot.
No... if prices drop on Titan's or so when the 390X comes, I might pull the trigger at that time. Will follow JR's "advice" earlier
Thanks lads!
(see what I did there? 
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shambles1980
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never played a single battle field game..
the closest i have come to EA is playing tiger woods golf on a friends wii. Starting to enjoy it then trying to go play online and instantly remembered why i stopped buying ea games many years ago..
"if you havent guessed they had closed down the server"
I doubt they miss me at all, but there is a principal here lol. And i know what EA are like so i guess the old saying comes in to effect.
fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me..
Ubi soft are pretty close to suffering the same fate as EA did when it comes to my money lol. But again i doubt they lose much sleep over me.
AlienALX
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So you won't ever buy any Battlefield game then?... as in it's heart, it's DICE's game, not EA's. EA simply bhought up DICE, but in it's heart, it's DICE's game.
Yeah true that... might try and see if I can return my 980, hold on a little longer and wait and see untill the 390X (is that name even confirmed guys? :huh
But you're absolutely right though, £400 for 6GB more Vram, that is just insane, like shooting yourself in the foot.
No... if prices drop on Titan's or so when the 390X comes, I might pull the trigger at that time. Will follow JR's "advice" earlier
Thanks lads!
Or you can return the 980 and buy a 290x 8gb cheaper?
Then Crossfire it later on?
Ever since the BF3 + GTX 470 VRAM issue I had I will never overlook it again. Yeah my Titans were expensive, but there still isn't a card with 6gb+ vram to replace them apart from the Titan X. That's pretty impressive really. I mean the 900 series thus far have had absolutely nothing to offer me.
Now what Nvidia actually wanted me to do? they wanted me to buy either a 780 or 780ti 3gb then upgrade to the 970 or 980 3.5gb and 4gb then upgrade again to the 980ti 6gb.
So this is why, sometimes, just sometimes, Titans make an awful lot of sense. Especially if you are a serial upgrader. If you are they can actually save you money.
Battlefield : Bad Company 2 was the best of the bunch. It really was an epic single player FPS. And at the time it launched it was one of the best looking games I had ever clapped eyes on.
BF3 single player was pony and BF4 is even worse. I've not even completed the campaign. And yeah I know they were mainly designed for multi player but I don't play MP games.
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Dawelio
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Umm, maybe... but as I mentioned in earlier posts, I don't quite fancy crossfire or SLI unfortunately. Specially in an mATX system, where cooling potential is limited.
I've always been 1 graphics card kind of guy. I mean... I have 3 monitors yes, but only game on the center one, the other 2 I have programs such as Teamspeak, Task manager, Spotify etc open, nothing graphics power hungry in other words.
I did have an Sapphire R9 290X Vapor-X, as the blue on it went well with my black and blue color theme... only issue was the damn power phases on the back of the card, which would lit up depending on the power load on the card. It was kind annoying and distracting seeing it all through the side panel window.
So that is my main complaint about the card and why I have a hard time picking it... plus, my 980 is waaaay more quieter than the 290X. Despite the 290X had the semi fan mode, which only the center fan span.
Never played any campaign, of any of the games
... I am all in for the multiplayer, that's what makes the game, the game for me. I like the laugh and fun playing with my mates and raping the other team... or get raped with my team I missed out on Bad Company 2 unfortunately... my PC back then had an GeForce G100, which wasn't powerful enough for it... then when my school paid for an i7 2600K and an HD6950, back in 2012, Battlefield 3 was the new game and I had missed Bad Company 2 (as all my friends were playing 3)
Kaapstad
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The Titan X cooler is actually very good and makes the one found on the reference 290X look and sound like something out of the dark ages.
AlienALX
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Yet it's still not good enough.
Dawelio
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Is there anything that is? :huh:...
AlienALX
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The Titan X needs custom cooling badly. Sadly Nvidia see it as their private jack off toy and won't allow any AIBPs to custom cool it.
EVGA's new Hydro AIO thing would work well but then you're in well over a thousand pounds.
Not worth it.
Watercooling ^_^
