x58 motherboards

gordonfreeman

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I have been doing my homework and have ended up with three choices that I need help on -

What board would you recommend me, out of -

-DFI LanParty LP UT x58 t3eh8

-Gigabyte GA-EX58 Extreme

-Asus P6T Deluxe

plz help :)

EDIT: I need a motherboard for gaming and overclocking
 
your gonna have to give more info for what you want to do, but that list is crazy hard to chose from since they are all high-end. Put a gun to my head and i would prob go with DFI... (but that price even EVGA doesn't look bad). Goodluck choosing (your money might look better going to GPU if this is for a first time system...)
 
I would just get a intel duo and overclock it.

Much better for gaming. Though if your not looking to upgrade after for a while then grab a quad.
 
I see alot of people saying that, but if they have the money, then i just say, blow it on an i7, its far more future proof than anything else out there.

Or on the otherhand, wait for i5
 
name='Rastalovich' said:
He wants for gaming and oc'ing ?

like rasta says!! the dude wants it for overclocking and gamin!!

so why are you guys sayin to get i7??

he doesn't mention wantin to future proof his pc!!

and it has been mentioned plenty of time before:

the benefits of gamin on i7 does not warrant the price difference between an i7 and a good 775 quad !! or Exxxx series cpu's!
 
It sounds like he had already made his mind up about the i7 :) I can't blame him either. If you have the cash spare for an i7 rig, why not get one? I think some people pay too much attention to what's being spouted on the net, when if they tried the i7's they would probably be impressed with them.

As for which X58 board to go with, I have the P6T and can wholeheartedly recommend it. It oc's great and my games all run smooth as a babies bum with gfx settings maxxed out at 1920x1200. I haven't had to oc to get the games running nicely either. I run at stock around 99% of the time.
 
It's simple really. If he has the money for i7, then he should get it. Gaming may not be it's speciality bu it hardly falls behind the competition either. If he's overclocking, getting the i7 to 4.0GHz isn't exactly either. When you can buy 6GB kits from £70 and boards like the Gigabyte EX58 UD3R from £148, it's not too costly either. It doesn't represent the best value for money for games and I'll give you all that one but it's a platform with plenty of life it and quite simply some people would rather just spend more for that.

If value for money is the objective, my money would go towards a Phenom II X4 940 @ £160, 4GB DDR2-1066 for £40 and a Biostar TA790GX series board for £70. At this present moment for a new build for a budget like this I'd struggle to recommend investing in LGA775 unless there are good deals on said motherboards and CPU's.

To the original poster - Honestly, unless you plan on doing some extreme overclocking, all of the boards that you've mentioned are pricey and quite overkill. The Gigabyte EX58 UD3R for around £150 would easily do the job and take an i7 920 to 4.0GHz without fuss. Could you elaborate on the specific applications that you'll be using?
 
It's too easy tbh to throw out that some1 looking to get a new rig should buy the current newest stuff, especially in today's climate.

As some1 who buys and builds these things at people's requests, even if u do advise them otherwize - I find it hard to advise some1 to buy a 'lower in the range' x58 for a relatively cheap price for an x58, with so many other options available. Particularly the same company's 'higher in the range' x48 (or 45 even). Some departments enjoy the fact that they have more money than they know what to do with tho, and like to read pc magazines. It's pretty sickening and u get the same thing every March/April.

In terms of his overclocking wish, his then overclocked x48/45 could/should hammer a game compared to some1 buying the most expensive i7 stuff and running it at stock. There's no real comparison to be made there without both clocked as far as some1 can push them.

Board releases are a real thing to keep an eye on too. The AMD offering may bench less than any of the above, but during actual game play they can't be sniffed at, plus they have the advantage of being able to switch out mobos whilst keeping cpus up to this point - which is blaspheme according to Intel.

Q4 that far away ? I mean apart from being a generally decent time to buy hardware regarding new stuff, possibly even graphic wize, the "x55" that it didn't look like they were going to make could be coming in the shape of i5. I dunno tho, u can always w8 for hardware. One quarter spreads to another and u could end up with nothing for ages.
 
Apologies, I'm not sure if I made what I meant to convey very clear. :D

I'm definitely not comparing overclocked Core 2 Quad/Duo with i7. It's stock for stock or both overclocked. All I'm pointing out is that Core i7 overclocks well too.

I even recommended Phenom II in my last post if value for money was a concern as it's very capable, it's a platform with no defined end of line date so far and there are plans for further CPU releases. I too have been building and selling computers and I've had hands on experience with both AMD Phenom II and Core 2 Duo/Quad platforms.

As for the "low end" i7 board, I'm not sure what's so wrong about that? I'd see where you're coming from if I were bundling a high end CPU and RAM with a £20 ECS/PC Chips/ASrock board but this isn't the same thing. In the context of the Gigabyte EX58 UD3R, it's build quality is fine. It's 8 phase power regulation is more than enough to run for years with a 130W+ TDP CPU like the i7 920 and shares the all solid caps and 2oz copper content in the PCB's as the higher end Gigabytes. It hits 200MHz BCLK just fine and it supports both SLI and Crossfire. Gigabyte haven't skimped on quality but rather ditched frills such as more hefty (and often unnecessary) northbridge/southbridge coolers. When you consider all of this, I think boards like the EX58 UD3R are excellent purchases.

Here's a few example builds. For the Phenom II and Core 2 Quad builds I used as examples, I used the same DDR2 kits for both, the i7 obviously got a different DDR3 kit. As for motherboards I included the cheapest motherboards possible without sacrificing quality, features and overclocking capabilities. Since overclocking is in the equation, I included the Titan Fenrir cooler, a relatively new £28 cooler that's been getting some good reviews. :)

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As I stated in previous posts, it's clear that the Phenom II 940 build, offering very good gaming performance with the right graphics card for £145 less than the i7 build. This is the sort of setup I'd put together if someone needed a Quad Core setup with money as an important factor.

Next is the Core 2 Quad setup, which weighs in at about £100 less than the i7 setup. It's a solid performer that also overclocks well but the platform is at the end of the road. The only way that I could suggest the LGA775 route is if a CPU like an E5200/E8400 were used that was heavily overclocked. Value for money, such a setup would do well due to modern games being rather GPU limited than CPU.

Finally there's the i7 920 build. It's not as expensive as one may think it'd be. It's doable to sort out CPU/Motherboard/RAM/Cooler for £470, which isn't bad at all. The i7 is a better all round performer but it's talents are wasted on games as many will not fully utilise all four cores + hyperthreading.

I appreciate where you're coming from in what you're saying but today's "economic climate" doesn't mean a lot as not everyone is being affected by it. The original poster was asking for advice on £200+ motherboards so it would stand to reason that he's got plenty of money to drop on a computer. Sometimes it's hard to see but value for money is not always the #1 priority for everyone. So long as the original poster is fully aware that i7 isn't always noticeably better than cheaper platforms with certain applications including games, then I don't see what the problem is. Really, so long as he can also afford a quality graphics card, case etc to make a balanced i7 rig, I still do not see what is so wrong about taking that route.
 
Some fantastic points.

name='Mul.' said:
I appreciate where you're coming from in what you're saying but today's "economic climate" doesn't mean a lot as not everyone is being affected by it. The original poster was asking for advice on £200+ motherboards so it would stand to reason that he's got plenty of money to drop on a computer. Sometimes it's hard to see but value for money is not always the #1 priority for everyone. So long as the original poster is fully aware that i7 isn't always noticeably better than cheaper platforms with certain applications including games, then I don't see what the problem is. Really, so long as he can also afford a quality graphics card, case etc to make a balanced i7 rig, I still do not see what is so wrong about taking that route.

I see the mention of £200+ mobos having the assumption that the guy has plenty of cash to throw at the situation where he hasn't stated that, to be fair, I saw him list 3 of what people may consider "popular" mobos in the i7 range and that he want's to oc and play games.

It'd be a sad fact to me if we did go ahead and advise him on the outlay assuming he's got the cash and his next thread is asking if a 4870 is better choice over a 9800 cos he's limited after spending on the mobo etc.

Heck if u got the cash, blow it, I know I do. But not on something that would be unnecessary.
 
I hadn't actually spotted any other threads by the OP. If he's skimping on graphics cards as a result of going i7 then I wouldn't encourage opting for such a platform either as a system should be well balanced for the intended tasks. It's often said that one's system is only as fast as it's slowest component (within reason). :)

That being said, his system specs in sig

http://forum.overclock3d.net/member.php?u=14988

He already has what could be considered as a fully blown gaming setup. If his intention is to further upgrade and he has the funds, then i7 is the only way to go, unless he can avoid the expense all together!
 
Ugh, I just looked at his current specs.

I do hope he buys a 295 or something cos frankly the upgrade isn't going to effect his gaming.

Will have some oc'ing fun and benching.
 
I'm currently running the EVGA X58 Classified which is overpriced, but if you want the best people will pay the premium. I came from the ASUS P6T Deluxe and I can tell you it's a fantastic board. Easiest board I've ever overclocked on even easier then the Classified all the wouldn't trade the Classified, but it's taking more tweaking to overclock on the EVGA board.

I haven't used the other two boards so I can't neither bash them or praise them, but I can praise the ASUS board for it's ability to overclock and blow away games with the core i7.
 
name='limpkorn' said:
.. and blow away games with the core i7.

See it's that kind of statement that can lead to miss-placed insistance that to have that kind of gaming experience the i7 is the setup of choice.

To blow a game away u can use a phenom of choice, even an x2. Games are far more gpu orientated than artificial benchmarkers will give them credit for. I mean the likes of 3dmark vantage equalled it out a bit better, but the crazyness of 3dmark06 would give u a bonus of 6000 or something points cos u got another 2 cores. But I'd not expect an E8600 to fair any worse in a game than a Q9400, or i7 for that matter.
 
Rastalovich is right. Much of the "what's good for games" debates sprout from statements that aren't explained or justified as such. not a huge problem, it's just a tad misleading to those that aren't particularly in the know. :)
 
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