would this work?

[skooly]

this is my idea of a phase change cooling systeam, the idea is not only to cool the CPU but the motherbord and GPU also. I whant to have a cube with all my computer parts in side a cube that will be sumerged in a sphear that is full of a translusint, liquid, realy good heat conductor with a low freezing point that does not conduct electisity, like what is used in stock liquid cooling computer systeams. In side of the sphear I will have the evaporater wich will be a copper coil going around the cube in side the heat exchanger (so basicly the liquid absorbs the heat and the evaporater cools it down) but i will also have part of the coil go in to the cube to a CPU heat sink and then back out agine. You will beable to drain off the liquid from the shpare with a pump that goes in to a holding tank, the case will be open at the tops of both the cube and spaher and then be sealed with rubber seals and clamps. the case will sit on a pedistale that will house both the pump and the compereser and all the other parts for the phase change systeam besides the condenser. oh and there will the a tube going out of the cube on ether side for the CD bay and for cables.

will it work?

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[NoL]

And how again does that cool the motherboard?

Btw the sheer complexity, and the fact that you have tubes and such that INTO the case would make it next to impossible. It'd also be just like a normal direct die system as evaporator on the cpu then run the suction out and about.

But nah.

 

[skooly]

oh well .... back to the drawing bord =P

what if i sealed up the whole computer and then got rid of the cube and let it have deretly submurged in the liquid, i have hear of this done but with cooing oil and it help keep ever thing cooler because the oil absorbed the heat and put a coil in the oil to keep the oil cold and cool the system the much more

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[FarFarAway]

In the end it's basically a waste of timeand money. yeah an oil-cooled PC is fun...even funny - but it's not gonna outperform a decent phase and water combo anymore than leaving your PC out in the snow

You'll just end up with an incredibly messy pile of components you can't sell

 

[skooly]

oh ... ok, i am trying to come up with a computer desine for Skills USA and i whanted to it to be cooled with a phase change system, but since they compention we are going to is in Lorado Tx and it is realy hot in side the building i whanted my case to frost over (notice how there wasn't any insulation on the outside of my first plan) to show the judgues how cooled my CPU was getting and the whole WOW affect. Is there still some way to do this with out conduncation build up in side my case while using a basic phase change setup? and is it posisble to have both my CPU and GPU on the same line?

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[FarFarAway]

One of the case companies has fitted a TEC to a case fan which means that the case has a kind of "air conditioning". This would probably keeps temps down whilst using phase

You could always got for phased CPU and GPU (dual head) and fully watercooled motherboard PWN IC's, RAM and chipset

 

[NoL]

The "a/c thing" doesn't do a thing but actually raise your ambient and then raise your computer case. So it's pretty useless. TEC's are terrible at cooling thru a large medium (thus we use a coldplate that isn't 10mm thick like swiftech would tell us to)

Dual head phase or just 2 single stages with watercooling everything would be cheaper, better performance, and certainly better lookking.

 

[skooly]

ok thank you, does any body have plans showing what a double head phase would look like? and about how much would the stuff to make a dual headed phase and to water cooled my RAM and chipset? and what does the motherboard PWN IC's do?

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[NoL]

If you dont have the tools for phase your looking at near $1000 for the hydra-phase.

 

[skooly]

hummm i think i am going to have to draw out a list and see what i can savenge and get on e-bay

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[NoL]

LoL you can scavenge and ebay a single stage single evap. But dual evap you better be awesome at cutting and tuning by gas charge and capillary or else your dropping $120 into CPEV's, then $30 into feeder lines. Not to mention the cost of 2 evaps and then 2 suction flex lines. (Machined evap being around $80 a pop on the low side, and flex's around $30 per 36"). Then you gotta remember a larger condenser and fan ($50?) and larger compressor to handle it (Preferably not a rotary). Your already shooting up the tree and your not talking about the tools yet ($500 or so). O and you need insulation for all that along with a helpful SLHX maybe and an expansion tank to lower your static charge?

 

[skooly]

could i fit all that in to a old computer case?

for 2 evap could i have the line out of the tee out in to two lines then they go throu the block and on the returnline have them tee back in to a sinle line?

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[NoL]

You T them back together at the of suction yes, but you cannot T them apart earlier on. It doesnt work that way. This isn't like water cooling. Refrigerant will generally try and take the quickest way so if you dont know how to do things 100% perfectly with both sides the same your capillarys will get uneven flow.

If you havent ever made a unit dual evap is not the project to undertake.

 

[skooly]

oh ok

lol i gusse i am stuck with just chilling my CPU since i dont think i will have the money to build two units

is there a deatiled list some whereof what you need for a phase systeam and watercooling system? i have found some but there are realy veag

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[NoL]

Check the stickys in this section.

I also plan on doing a step by step build a phase unit guide.

If you'd like I can post a basic diagram thread for different styles of units.

 

[skooly]

yes plz and thank you

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[skooly]

i was looking in the water cooling section and saw your post on the bong evapitor and i think i will use it for my water cooler but i am wondering if i will notice a sneficit increase in the humity in my room, live in Corpus Chirsti Tx and our humity is alwas like 90%, and i dont whant to wake up in the moring drawning in water vapor. or could i put a cap on the tube have the tube run throu it and have like a screen with those silica packets in the top of the cap or one of those big dihumifiors that you put in your clostet.

is that evpavator you post in this fourm, the cap one, easy to make and pertty effecint? like apose to a premade one or a farly more complex one like Bowman's?

http://www.phase-change.com/index.php?action=Articles_page&cat=Guides&id=23&page=4

p.s. thank you so much for your help

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[NoL]

Bong coolers add alot to humidity and wont be very effective in a humid room.

Cap in cap evaps can be quite effective but can also be a pain to build, test, and are at some point not worth the time.

No problem, if you have AIM Or MSN you can message me as well.

 

[skooly]

i am sry but i don't know your IM names and i can't accesse your profile ... i gusse i am to /\/00l3-ish for that =P

so build your owen evaps are not for shoer things the first time? oh boy!

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[NoL]

My aim is OC3D NoL and my msn is Knucks96@patmedia.net