Win7 Activation theory

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VonBlade

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Entirely theoretical...

Say I had two identical PCs. And they are both running through a home network connected to a hub, so they have the same IP and the same hardware. If I installed Win7 on one and activated it, then cloned the drive onto the C in the other machine, would it stay activated? The hardware is the same, the IP is the same, the generated activation key would be logged the same.

Just wondering. (not hidden agenda and I'm not condoning it, purely interested)

Unless there is some "serial number of the hardware" shenanigans I'm not aware of.
 
The OS 'should' know it's a different hardware setup, even if u have the same components.

Up til requiring authorization for something, like upd8s or downloading, it should be ok.

Unless it immediately comes at u with "u have made significant hardware changes to ur pc".

It's like having 2x 5890 gfxcard, the differences in them shouted out by the firmware of the cards will tell on u to windows, imo.
 
Windows probably will notice because the activation code is an algorithm based on the hard drive, ram, motherboard, processor, graphics etc. serial numbers.
 
well when i installed win 7 it was on an amd sli mobo with a 7800gtx and 2 gb 1066, and then i just plugged it into this machine (p5k premium, 4gb 800, 4850) and it worked straight off, just had to re do the divers ect, so if you clone it in one machine then move it it should work, idk if server side it will like the same key coming from 2 machines tho, all it would do is make you add a new key from a guess (on xp it just asked me to add a new key and that i might have suffered from fraud)
 
name='Rastalovich' said:
like upd8s

Why go to the bother of streching your finger to the number pad, would the 'ate' really have been so hard ? It's hard enough trying to text (txt) a girl within the 3 second time frame before you recieve another text (txt) asking why you haven't replied yet only to find out that your trusted oc3d old skool pals are at it too ! Frank Gallagher FTW !
 
he is not usin the number pad spentro he is using the 8 above the lettered keys but is also nice when people use correct wording as people from foreign countries dont understand some peoples grammar other wise!
 
Worth a try

Is worth testing but imho windows will know.

Because of how some servers work on a network when cloning machines you have to sys prep the image which takes all the machine specific information out, so the image you put on another machine will still be unique.

I should imagine that win7 will do something similar in the way that it will create a code of some kind that is generated by certain information from the hardware in the PC, which will mean that the activation code will only probably register the once.

I did hear a while ago that microsoft were going to allow users to do upto 3 installs per household of win7 when its released, but somehow I can not see microsoft doing that for free and have a feeling that they are more likely to bring out a home version that costs more and you can install multiple times.

Would be worth trying thou just for testing purposes of course lol :rolleyes:
 
name='sprento' said:
Why go to the bother of streching your finger to the number pad, would the 'ate' really have been so hard ? It's hard enough trying to text (txt) a girl within the 3 second time frame before you recieve another text (txt) asking why you haven't replied yet only to find out that your trusted oc3d old skool pals are at it too ! Frank Gallagher FTW !

name='sammytomjohn' said:
he is not usin the number pad spentro he is using the 8 above the lettered keys but is also nice when people use correct wording as people from foreign countries dont understand some peoples grammar other wise!

I agree with both of u on similar levels.

Then I remind myself of the arguments made 20 years ago when a topic was discussed about where the internet was going and how it would evolve.

Would it still be the case that on sites such as enthusiast areas, not wholey, but certainly by some distance, away from the mainstream of internet users.

Enthusiast site would be forums. Forums not exactly a thing u could look up in 'google' (DogPile in it's original form, not how it is today, would be a whole underground search engine for anything not only technical and enthusiast, but highly illegal with a whole lot more than a hint of Astalavista thrown in, and ofc free pr0n - without complaint and overview). What's google.

It would be foreseen that over the years to come, the internet would diminish into a place where simply looking for stuff would be made more difficult, and even to the extent that what would be considered an enthusiast (not really a word u would use at the time) area would be increasingly filled with more mainstream users, even places where a regular person would just pop in and browse away - and fearing they would actually join in too >.<

Within this fear is the thought that individualities become less and less noticeable. A guy called XXyyXX on one area would almost certainly have been the same XXyyXX on another forum. Name alone would increasingly be less and less a way to recognize who people are. The sense of individuality is gone in that sense that some pratt would these days say "oo I like that tag, I'll use it myself" without much self thought. Ofc long gone are the days where u needed a tag to put ur name in a highscore list in an arcade game. 3 letter tags growing to 5 and with the internet can be anything u like, which is confusing. There would be 50million variants of every Pokemon character - kewl ! sigh.

With this loss of individuality or recognition in that sense, there is also a leaning towards identifying people by the way they leave messages. People write in different ways, with different characteristics. If every1 left messages for each other with exact grammatical correctness, assuming also that naming is not unique, can u really believe ur talking back'n'fore with the person u think u r ?

Grammatical correctness is a place for official guides, technical texts, books and anything directed to education or news.

So what of the 'enthusiast' that was in the smaller pond that was the internet that is now in a massive ocean filled with 'anybodies' ? Who should change their ways ? Should the enthusiast change in order to conform with the majority, a majority of which are arguably part of the commercial ruining of what once was a perceived greater tool than it is today ?

Well do u get ur hair cut cos men in suits think u should ?

The term upd8 has/was around b4 the internet.

'U R B4' etc were around b4 mobile phones.

Why does it take an older person to tell a younger person that they should be themselves and not necessarily conform with what society (the internet in the state it is today) thinks u should do ?

Be urself. Don't lose the uniqueness. Just think how much more boring the internet becomes if every1 on it conformed to what society believes they should.

We've lost too much already imo.
 
There is nothing "unique" about being exactly the same as everyone else. The internet, hell popular culture generally, is awash with people who can't use the English language properly. "Ya d00d i n me mates fink itz more better that you loose rava dan w1n". Etc.

So rather than conforming to your own false belief that being borderline illiterate is something to be proud of, try and be one of the few that stands out.

Finally, most of the people I've met online aren't native English speakers and, whilst they are fantastic, it helps them tremendously if you refrain from using highly alternative spellings. Slang terms can be explained. So the desire to appear unique only makes you look like a xenophobe.

/rant
 
When I meet people online, mostly in online games, I tend to learn their words for things.

Spent around 5 years chatting with dutch gamers. U don't know the language, but u pickup common traits.

In the same sense they'll use "afk" "brb" even when speaking their own language amoungst themselves.

Think the world knows what LOL means. But it's english in it's breakdown.

006c6f6c doesn't mean much to most.
 
I agree with VB. If using incorrect grammar / spelling makes you unique, why does everyone do it?

Of course the dutch use afk and brb in their own typing language, simply because it's short and easily recognised. No one would recognize 'wvt' (weg van toetsenbord) simply because it's never used.

A language should in my opinion be as universal as possible, and as such not a thing to be unique in. Sure, everyone uses the english language a little bit differently but it shouldn't be a thing to identify yourself with.

What's 006c6f6c?
 
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