Who makes the best fan?

The apaches are probably your best bet
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TechSmart got banned because he kept preaching about how Tom was biased and tried to force his opinion on others.
 
A lot of companies lie about the cfm and noise rating.

Not possible. Any facts about an item need to be documented now.

They can skew the information by using sound proof rooms and so on, though.

It's kinda like all those 80+ psus that came out that weren't 80+. All recalled and rebadged.

TechSmart got banned because he kept preaching about how Tom was biased and tried to force his opinion on others.

Tom is just doing a job. And that job is to sell things for a company that pay him.

Nothing wrong in that, he certainly doesn't lie.

Reviews are good for looking over a product to see what it's like, but inevitably no review is going to factor in actually living with a certain product for the foreseeable.

The only product I have ever seen ever that lives up to the reviews and the hype generated is the NH-D14. Everything else pretty much relies on you liking it in the first place (Which I didn't, it's fugly) and then using that as the trigger pull you need to actually go out and buy it.
 
Not possible. Any facts about an item need to be documented now.

They can skew the information by using sound proof rooms and so on, though.

It's kinda like all those 80+ psus that came out that weren't 80+. All recalled and rebadged.

It's just that I've read many people complaining about fans after they read that they were meant to be very quiet, but I guess they didn't read the full details :/
 
He also kept calling people who like Noctau products sheep... I think i made a thread about who liked the Noctua fans and kept preaching about Apache fans being the best and nothing would ever be better etc.
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FragTek had to close the thread.

I think what ultimately got him banned was calling Mr. Strawberry Tom's pita or something.
 
It's just that I've read many people complaining about fans after they read that they were meant to be very quiet, but I guess they didn't read the full details :/

It all depends on surroundings tbh. I guess the realisation that performance parts are never going to be quiet is a good start
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Since putting 100% wool carpeting down I've noticed things seem more quiet in here but it doesn't matter.

I really value the electronic fan controllers the PC has tbh. I have all manner of pre-sets created so all I do is hit a key and cooling kicks in.

Getting them down as low as possible without soaring the temps is how I have it now. And as soon as I load up a game I just press a single key and they're all at 50%. You don't even want to know what a PC full of Deltas sounds like at full pelt. When I was first setting up the PC I installed the controller software and they kicked in to 100% to test. I near shat myself. So loud.

He also kept calling people who like Noctau products sheep...

I can tell you now mate I'm no sheep. I was out of hardware for a few years so when I came back I tended to lean heavily on reviews. Lesson learned, I bought a H50. Pile of cack that was.

I didn't buy my NH I won it. I doubt I'd have ever bought one if I'm honest as I have a serious mistrust for "reviewers" these days. They're not really any such thing any more, more salesmen. You can't really blame it all onto them. If you're honest you will starve. Companies tend to throw sulks when you review something with brutal honesty, so you always have to be mindful of that. Alienware (as much as I like the design of their chassis) are the worst. I've even seen them launch cease and desist campaigns on those who dared to point out the flaws in their products.

Tom is about as honest as he can be. You just need to learn how to read into his reviews properly to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Games reviewers? now those lot need to be lined up and shot. This is probably one of the few reasons I still game on PC. Game comes out, load up Newsleecher, nick it. If I play it for more than 30 mins I will buy it, but I can't tell you how many I've just deleted and laughed at for a while.
 
You know about the NZXT 'incident'? Just because he (Tom) pointed out that one of their cases were shit and that it was a bad clone of the Fractal R3.
 
SilentX and Noctua. I havent tried every brand out there but, and there could be more good fans out there. Just telling what i am pleased with. CFM and DBA is very important for me. Im using 1400rpm fans with 72cfm and only 14dba, beat that!!!
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There been reports of faulty silentX fans, but ive used some of mine 2 years now without any issues. Got 10 new ones for my new build. Hope they all last long time. If im gonna swap brands il go to Nocuta or maybe try some enermax/bitfenix fans
 
Noctua NF-P12's!!!! Had about 7 of um for various things and DAMN they rule. I love the colour, shame no one knows how to safely take one apart for spraying.

QUIET TOO!!!

Pull the sticker off, pull out the magnet, and the blades just pop off AFAIK. Seen it in a vid once.

(yes, I know it's from 3 years ago, but I thought others may be interested)
 
You know about the NZXT 'incident'? Just because he (Tom) pointed out that one of their cases were shit and that it was a bad clone of the Fractal R3.

I do yes. Nuff said.

Gone are the days where a company will take their criticism on the chin and just try and make it better, now they just want to lie their way to the pot of gold.

Not.Cool.

That's half the problem with why technology has slowed to a crawl. We're just being dictated to now and told what we want.

Bring on the Raspberry Pi and publications with game code in. You won't be seeing much of me then
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Gentle Typhoons seem to have a really good reputation, so do Noctuas. I personally went for Noctuas (NF-P14 FLXs).
 
Five Scythe Gentle Typhoons 1850 rpm in my case now. Very happy with them. It's amazing too how long they spin after the power is cut.
 
i only use Noctuas and they seem to have taken a leaf out of the Silverstone book by applying the directtional blades to there new fans
 
It all depends on surroundings tbh. I guess the realisation that performance parts are never going to be quiet is a good start
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Baloney. The loudest PC I ever owned was the first I had (286 with a loud as hell 60MB harddrive). The fastest mass storage around are SSDs and they're silent.

...and I will reiterate that Enermax makes the quietest fans (I also own Noctuas, Thermalrights and a bunch of noname pieces of garbage).
 
I use Xigmatek fans when i just want to move air. I have had one of 14 120mm fans purchased develop a click, but it was intermittent and actually went away when i swapped its location in the case. For 8.99 its hard to beat them(and the leds are damn purty). But if i need static pressure I switch to Noctua.

I cannot even begin to imagine the market domination that would ensue if Noctua decided to offer led fans (in colors other than brown of course).
 
Antec, Coolmaster and [font=Verdana, sans-serif, FreeSans]Noctua.[/font]

[font=Verdana, sans-serif, FreeSans]I can't decide!! [/font]
 
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