Who can help me successfully overclock this rig?

swambast said:
Well, I'll be damned! This is interesting, but certainly not positive news.

I tested MemTest on my memory, with the memory running at a mere 402 Mhz from the standard 400 Mhz. It failed within 35 minutes.

I then tested MemTest on the memory, this time, with the memory running at the default 400 Mhz. It's been over 3 hours, and not a single error being reported so far (test is still running).

Ah, at this point in time, this leads me to one conclusion - can you confirm for me if you think this is correct:

This memory SUCKS TOTAL SHIT.

Would that be a correct assumption, or could it still be something else?
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Your assumption would be dead on :)

Time for some G. Skill LE or OCZ Rev. 2 Plat.! :D
 
swambast said:
Well, I'll be damned! This is interesting, but certainly not positive news.

I tested MemTest on my memory, with the memory running at a mere 402 Mhz from the standard 400 Mhz. It failed within 35 minutes.

I then tested MemTest on the memory, this time, with the memory running at the default 400 Mhz. It's been over 3 hours, and not a single error being reported so far (test is still running).

Ah, at this point in time, this leads me to one conclusion - can you confirm for me if you think this is correct:

This memory SUCKS TOTAL SHIT.

Would that be a correct assumption, or could it still be something else?

BTW, again thanks to everyone so far for your continued support. I want to especially commend sai_jao - you just seem to really know how to call these problems right on...
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:o Np man just here to help

hey loosen ya memory timings u may find that will get ridda those memory error try Cas as is the +1 - +1 +2 (so if u have 2.5-3-3-6 then 2.5-4-4-8) first or the 'Auto'/'by spd' assigned settins @ 402 MHZ
 
Well then...

Assuming nothing more could be done, and it is advised to get some new memory, can someone let me know what would be a good memory choice that would be compatible with my 865PE-NEO2-LS (601-6728-020)?
 
Sai_Jao and anyone else:

When I set the option Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD to ENABLED, here is what it defaults to. What settings are you suggesting I try?

ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES

DRAM Timing Setting…

Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD Enabled

CAS# Latency 2.5 Clocks

RAS# Precharge 2 Clocks

RAS# to CAS# Delay 3 Clocks

Precharge Delay 5 Clocks

Burst Length 8
 
swambast said:
Sai_Jao and anyone else:

When I set the option Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD to ENABLED, here is what it defaults to. What settings are you suggesting I try?

ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES

DRAM Timing Setting…

Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD Enabled

CAS# Latency 2.5 Clocks

RAS# Precharge 2 Clocks

RAS# to CAS# Delay 3 Clocks

Precharge Delay 5 Clocks

Burst Length 8
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give ya By spd timing @ ur overclocked / overvolted rates a go, else try the 2.5 - 4- 4- 8

Ram OCZ , GEIL (mee extremely likee this) gskil or nefing based on samsung tccd chips
 
name='swambast' said:
Assuming nothing more could be done, and it is advised to get some new memory, can someone let me know what would be a good memory choice that would be compatible with my 865PE-NEO2-LS (601-6728-020)?
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DDR:

OCZ Rev. 2 EL Platinum PC3200

G. Skill PC3200 LE

Both are TCCD based and rock the house! You won't see how powerful they really are on an Intel based system but i'd reckon it's still probably the best stuff you could get for ur Intel setup.

Also look into some Twinmos UTT... that's really nice as well, a true voltage hog :)
 
give ya By spd timing @ ur overclocked / overvolted rates a go
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Sai_Jao, sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean by this?

Guys, I also have another question. In my BIOS, I have an option in the memory section to select things like "AUTO" "400 Mhz" "333 Mhz" - what is the difference between selecting 400 Mhz and AUTO?????

So, should I set the relaxed memory timings FIRST, and then run MemTest?

They would be set to this, then, right:

ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES

DRAM Timing Setting…

Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD DISABLED

CAS# Latency 2.5 Clocks

RAS# Precharge 4 Clocks

RAS# to CAS# Delay 4 Clocks

Precharge Delay 8 Clocks

Burst Length 8

Also, how do I get these values for my KingMax? I can't seem to find how to locate the info to manually set this as KingMax suggests...!

Man that OCZ PC4400 1024mb Gold DChan sure looks sweet! I'll have to get some pricing, but it looks expensive!

Check this out - this is pretty interesting, and right off the OCZ web site:

OCZ / Support / Motherboard Qualification Guide / MSI 865PE Neo2 (6728ver1)

MSI 865PE Neo2 (6728ver1)

Initial tests with OCZ PC4000 and OCZ3700Gold.Both Speed gardes performed well at spd timings speed and voltage.

Tips

Bios version 6728v13.exe or later 2X512mb modules PC4000EL/Gold 2x256MB modules PC3700 Gold Tests at 250FSB...267FSB was not capable on this board. Bios tweaks Dynamic mode disabled. Performance set to Slow (Fast for PC3700 Gold) PCI 66/33 vcore 1.6V vdimm 2.75V Vagp set to 1.7v Memory timings do NOT work in bios...just leave to SPD. CLS 3-4-4-8-8

Recommended OCZ Memory Modules

OCZ PC3700 Gold

EL Gold

OCZ PC4000 EL DDR

EB Platinum

OCZ PC3200 EB Platinum

OCZ PC3500 EB Platinum

OCZ PC3700 EB Platinum

Manufacturer: MSI

Chipset: Intel i865PE Springdale

Product: MSI 865PE Neo2 (6728ver1)
 
Is There Still Hope...?

Hmm, well, finally a pleasant surprise! :rolleyes:

I made the following changes:

Upped VCore Voltage to 1.550V

Upped DDR Voltage to 2.75V

Upped AGP Voltage to 1.7V

Set DDR Selection in BIOS to "AUTO" instead of "400 Mhz"

Changed memory timings to 2.5-4-4-8

Set FSB to 221Mhz (giving me a DDR442Mhz) and a 3.10 Ghz CPU

I then ran MemTest for 3 hours - to my amazement, ERROR FREE! :eek:

What do you guys suggest next? Should I run MemTest overnight to test the results? Or should I move on to testing with Prime95? Or something else, maybe? I'm starting to get a little concerned about the temps, though...after running memtest for 3 hours and booting right into WinXP, temps were at 44.
 
swambast said:
Hmm, well, finally a pleasant surprise! :rolleyes:

I made the following changes:

Upped VCore Voltage to 1.550V

Upped DDR Voltage to 2.75V

Upped AGP Voltage to 1.7V

Set DDR Selection in BIOS to "AUTO" instead of "400 Mhz"

Changed memory timings to 2.5-4-4-8

Set FSB to 221Mhz (giving me a DDR442Mhz) and a 3.10 Ghz CPU

I then ran MemTest for 3 hours - to my amazement, ERROR FREE! :eek:

What do you guys suggest next? Should I run MemTest overnight to test the results? Or should I move on to testing with Prime95? Or something else, maybe? I'm starting to get a little concerned about the temps, though...after running memtest for 3 hours and booting right into WinXP, temps were at 44.
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sorry i could clarify wat i was sayin earlier i had to go home where net access is sporatic

(btw thats wat i was suggestin)

w00t 3 hrs should b enuff but what u should do now is overclock it a bit more :)
 
Damn it all

:damn:

Son of a Bitch! I just can't win with this computer!

So, I ran MemTest for over 3 hours error free. I then test with Prime95, and it crashes in 12 minutes with a "Fatal Error."

I don't know, I just don't friggin' know...any other ideas...I'm at a loss now.
 
Dave, here's what I'm at:

I made the following changes:

Upped VCore Voltage to 1.550V

Upped DDR Voltage to 2.75V

Upped AGP Voltage to 1.7V

Set DDR Selection in BIOS to "AUTO" instead of "400 Mhz"

Changed memory timings to 2.5-4-4-8

Set FSB to 221Mhz (giving me a DDR442Mhz) and a 3.10 Ghz CPU

DETAILED BREAKDOWN:

ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES

DRAM Timing Setting…

Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD Disabled

CAS# Latency 2.5 Clocks

RAS# Precharge 4 Clocks

RAS# to CAS# Delay 4 Clocks

Precharge Delay 8 Clocks

Burst Length 8

AGP Aperture Size 128

FREQUENCY/VOLTAGE

Performance Mode

(slow, fast, turbo, Ultra Turbo) SLOW

CPU Ratio Selection Locked

DRAM Frequency AUTO

Spread Spectrum Disabled

Adjust CPU Bus Clock (Mhz) 221

DDR Clock (Mhz) 442

Adjust AGP/PCI Clock (Mhz) 66.66/33.33

CPU Vcore Adjust Yes

CPU Vcore 1.550V

DDR Power Voltage 2.75V

AGP Power Voltage 1.7V

SiSoftware Sandra Prof. 2005 System Info

Front Side Bus Speed ( 4 x ) 4x222=888

Memory Bus Speed (2 x) 2x222=444

CPU SPEED (GHz with 14x multiplier) 3.11
 
swambast said:
:damn:

Son of a Bitch! I just can't win with this computer!

So, I ran MemTest for over 3 hours error free. I then test with Prime95, and it crashes in 12 minutes with a "Fatal Error."

I don't know, I just don't friggin' know...any other ideas...I'm at a loss now.
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if it boots into win and fails P95 it *usually* means that ur CPU needs a bit more Voltage in it ... go for it btw temps are fine @tm
 
More bad news...

LATEST/MORE DISAPPOINTING RESULTS

Wow, with all the help I've gotten, it just seems that noone's still been able to help me even get a little O/C - maybe I should just give up and be happy with the 2.8 - it just seems so damn hopeless... :(

Anyone have any other advice to offer...? :o

Here are my current settings WITH OVERCLOCKING ATTEMPTS:

DETAILED BREAKDOWN:

ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES

DRAM Timing Setting…

Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD Disabled

CAS# Latency 2.5 Clocks

RAS# Precharge 4 Clocks

RAS# to CAS# Delay 4 Clocks

Precharge Delay 8 Clocks

Burst Length 8

AGP Aperture Size 128

FREQUENCY/VOLTAGE

Performance Mode

(slow, fast, turbo, Ultra Turbo) Turbo

CPU Ratio Selection Locked

DRAM Frequency 333 Mhz

Spread Spectrum Disabled

Adjust CPU Bus Clock (Mhz) 230

DDR Clock (Mhz) 385

Adjust AGP/PCI Clock (Mhz) 66.66/33.33

CPU Vcore Adjust Yes

CPU Vcore 1.5875V

DDR Power Voltage 2.90V

AGP Power Voltage 1.80V

SiSoftware Sandra Prof. 2005 System Info

Front Side Bus Speed ( 4 x ) 4x230=920

Memory Bus Speed (2 x) 2x191=382

CPU SPEED (GHz with 14x multiplier) 3.22Ghz

Processor

Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz

Speed : 3.22GHz

Performance Rating : PR4283 (estimated)

SMT Support : 2 Unit(s)

Type : Standard

Package : FC µPGA478

Rated Speed/FSB : 2800MHz / 4x 200MHz

Multiplier : 14/1x

Minimum/Maximum Multiplier : 0/1x / 14/1x

Generation : G8

Name : P4N (Northwood) Pentium 4C 130nm 1.6-3.4GHz 1.475-1.575V

Revision/Stepping : 2 / 9 (9)

Stepping Mask : D1

Microcode : MU0F2914

Core Voltage Rating : 1.550V

Maximum Physical / Virtual Addressing : 36-bit / 32-bit

Native Page Size : 4kB

Co-Processor (FPU)

Type : Built-in

Revision/Stepping : 2 / 9 (9)

Processor Cache(s)

Internal Data Cache : 8kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 4-way set, 64 byte line size

Internal Trace Cache : 12kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way set, 64 byte line size

L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous, ATC, 8-way set, 64 byte line size, 2 lines per sector

L2 Cache Multiplier : 1/1x (3220MHz)

Upgradeability

Socket/Slot : FC-478

Upgrade Interface : Socket 478

Supported Speed(s) : 4.00GHz+

Environment Monitor 1

Model : Winbond W83627(T)HF ISA

Version : 2.01

Mainboard Specific Support : No

Power Rating(s)

CPU Core Power : 85W (estimated)

Sensors

CPU Temperature : 28.5°C / 83.3°F td

Auto Fan Speed Control : No

CPU Fan Speed : 6250rpm

CPU Voltage : 1.52V

PAT Settings

PAT 0 : WB

PAT 1 : WC

PAT 2 : UC-

PAT 3 : UC

PAT 4 : WB

PAT 5 : WC

PAT 6 : UC-

PAT 7 : UC

TESTING RESULTS:

Prime95 runs between 1 hour and 1.5 hours and the completely locks up the computer - only way to get out is to power down... :eek:
 
swambast said:
LATEST/MORE DISAPPOINTING RESULTS

Wow, with all the help I've gotten, it just seems that noone's still been able to help me even get a little O/C - maybe I should just give up and be happy with the 2.8 - it just seems so damn hopeless... :(

Anyone have any other advice to offer...? :o

Here are my current settings WITH OVERCLOCKING ATTEMPTS:

DETAILED BREAKDOWN:

ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES

DRAM Timing Setting…

Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD Disabled

CAS# Latency 2.5 Clocks

RAS# Precharge 4 Clocks

RAS# to CAS# Delay 4 Clocks

Precharge Delay 8 Clocks

Burst Length 8

AGP Aperture Size 128

FREQUENCY/VOLTAGE

Performance Mode

(slow, fast, turbo, Ultra Turbo) Turbo

CPU Ratio Selection Locked

DRAM Frequency 333 Mhz

Spread Spectrum Disabled

Adjust CPU Bus Clock (Mhz) 230

DDR Clock (Mhz) 385

Adjust AGP/PCI Clock (Mhz) 66.66/33.33

CPU Vcore Adjust Yes

CPU Vcore 1.5875V

DDR Power Voltage 2.90V

AGP Power Voltage 1.80V

SiSoftware Sandra Prof. 2005 System Info

Front Side Bus Speed ( 4 x ) 4x230=920

Memory Bus Speed (2 x) 2x191=382

CPU SPEED (GHz with 14x multiplier) 3.22Ghz

Processor

Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz

Speed : 3.22GHz

Performance Rating : PR4283 (estimated)

SMT Support : 2 Unit(s)

Type : Standard

Package : FC µPGA478

Rated Speed/FSB : 2800MHz / 4x 200MHz

Multiplier : 14/1x

Minimum/Maximum Multiplier : 0/1x / 14/1x

Generation : G8

Name : P4N (Northwood) Pentium 4C 130nm 1.6-3.4GHz 1.475-1.575V

Revision/Stepping : 2 / 9 (9)

Stepping Mask : D1

Microcode : MU0F2914

Core Voltage Rating : 1.550V

Maximum Physical / Virtual Addressing : 36-bit / 32-bit

Native Page Size : 4kB

Co-Processor (FPU)

Type : Built-in

Revision/Stepping : 2 / 9 (9)

Processor Cache(s)

Internal Data Cache : 8kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 4-way set, 64 byte line size

Internal Trace Cache : 12kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way set, 64 byte line size

L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous, ATC, 8-way set, 64 byte line size, 2 lines per sector

L2 Cache Multiplier : 1/1x (3220MHz)

Upgradeability

Socket/Slot : FC-478

Upgrade Interface : Socket 478

Supported Speed(s) : 4.00GHz+

Environment Monitor 1

Model : Winbond W83627(T)HF ISA

Version : 2.01

Mainboard Specific Support : No

Power Rating(s)

CPU Core Power : 85W (estimated)

Sensors

CPU Temperature : 28.5°C / 83.3°F td

Auto Fan Speed Control : No

CPU Fan Speed : 6250rpm

CPU Voltage : 1.52V

PAT Settings

PAT 0 : WB

PAT 1 : WC

PAT 2 : UC-

PAT 3 : UC

PAT 4 : WB

PAT 5 : WC

PAT 6 : UC-

PAT 7 : UC

TESTING RESULTS:

Prime95 runs between 1 hour and 1.5 hours and the completely locks up the computer - only way to get out is to power down... :eek:
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A couple of things I'm unsure of:

Your PSU...I dunno much about PSU's but is this one ok? Could be holdingyour OC back?

Your memory - 4 x 256 modules aint the best way to go about OC'ing....with all four slots taken up this would surely inhibit this chaps OC?

Cooling...what ya got and is it good enough? Is it stock/whats your case like for air?

Just a coupl of thoughts before I go to bed! :)
 
kempez815 said:
A couple of things I'm unsure of:

Your PSU...I dunno much about PSU's but is this one ok? Could be holdingyour OC back?

Your memory - 4 x 256 modules aint the best way to go about OC'ing....with all four slots taken up this would surely inhibit this chaps OC?

Cooling...what ya got and is it good enough? Is it stock/whats your case like for air?

Just a coupl of thoughts before I go to bed! :)
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The 4 x 256 modules will negatively affect the overclock, I discussed this earlier in the thread... That could be one of the larger problems. There's a fine line between having too many small modules and too few huge ass modules. 2x512 or 2x256 is optimal for overclocking.
 
It is a lost cause

Well, after having more than 14 people help me on 3 overclocking forums across 2+weeks, absolutely NO ONE has been able to get this rig successfully overclocked. My record (unfortunately) remains unbroken: The Computer wins again... :0wned:

Thanks to all those who offered their help, advice via private emails, these threads, etc. I sincerely appreciate your time and advice, and truly wish I had better news to report.

I hereby have officially given up all efforts, and have reverted everything back to my (rock-solid) defaults, and will somehow, just have to learn to be happy with the 2.8 P4 Northwood I have... Even though I would really love to kick this computer's ass someday... :cussing:
 
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