Which of these builds would be (Theoretically) faster all-round ?

Did we teach you nothing? First of all, even 1 7970 is more than enough, ok crossfire for multi monitors etc but more than 2 cards and your entering the land of stupidity. The becuase it will be epic line suggests to me that you care more about your 'epeen' than saving money. Oh and there is no way a system with 2 7970's could pull 1100 watts. Either you can not read or you were lying because I just did the wattage calculator, put in 2 7970's and maxed just about everything else up, it suggested 675w
 
Did we teach you nothing? First of all, even 1 7970 is more than enough, ok crossfire for multi monitors etc but more than 2 cards and your entering the land of stupidity. The becuase it will be epic line suggests to me that you care more about your 'epeen' than saving money. Oh and there is no way a system with 2 7970's could pull 1100 watts. Either you can not read or you were lying because I just did the wattage calculator, put in 2 7970's and maxed just about everything else up, it suggested 675w


No need to be so argumentative about it. I apologize that i like nice things and take pride in building and owning a fast PC.

Perhaps you missed the part where i mentioned i would eventually be upgrading to multiple GPU's + Water-cooling etc, it was for this reason i ran the test with (3) cards specified. I see little point in buying a PSU that can't handle what my complete build will have in it.


I think you give yourself too much credit if you think the lesson i learned here was from you. To be frank, it's apparent from what you just said that you missed the whole point of this thread. It was never about how many Graphics cards i should run. You only need read M&P's post to see it was more accurately a performance and viability differential between platforms. But if you insist on interrogating me over this, i can quote you the exact input i used to get that Wattage, as tedious as that task may be.
 
dude "Did we teach you nothing?" too far. sure he only asked for suggestions, at the end is his choice, lets have some respect to each other.


I'm a person like you, who really cares about aesthetics and fast PC, although I won't use it in full potential, but the great feeling of achievement and pride after building a powerful machine is fantastic and also you can proudly say to your mates you have an i7 rather than i5.

on 1155 vs 2011, I think its up to your thoughts, at the end, are you willing to spend couple of hundred buck more to upgrade it to i7 extreme? if yes go a head with 2011, I think haswell-E will be in socket 2011 as well.if not 1155 is very solid choice.

These might be a noob suggestion

But for the reason above and the fact that you will be keep spending money on you pc, I would compromise an SSD and go for GTX 680, not because of the performance, only because of the name :D, this is what I did in my build, I got an SSD 4 month later.

again also for same reason I think you could go for 1200ax, as far as I understand, up to 20% load on AX series, the fans won't spin, once you have powerful water loop with 810, there is high chance that 650,750 power supplies will be the loudest in your rig. also when you surfing web and watching films fan won't spin :D although the fan is very quite but every small noise can add up ;)

but after all I think your main noise from rig might come from ray of hard drive :D

and if you can't find good use of all the power, you can do folding at home for OC3D :D

wish you all the best
from - The noob goes against logic :D
 
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dude "Did we teach you nothing?" I think haswell-E will be in socket 2011 as well.if not 1155 is very solid choice.

Dude. Normal Haswell CPUs will be on a new socket. Socket LGA 1150. So I'm 100% sure than Haswell-e won't be on 2011, but on a completely new socket.

These might be a noob suggestion

But for the reason above and the fact that you will be keep spending money on you pc, I would compromise an SSD and go for GTX 680, not because of the performance, only because of the name , this is what I did in my build, I got an SSD 4 month later.

again also for same reason I think you could go for 1200ax, as far as I understand, up to 20% load on AX series, the fans won't spin, once you have powerful water loop with 810, there is high chance that 650,750 power supplies will be the loudest in your rig. also when you surfing web and watching films fan won't spin although the fan is very quite but every small noise can add up

but after all I think your main noise from rig might come from ray of hard drive

and if you can't find good use of all the power, you can do folding at home for OC3D

wish you all the best
Yup these are noob suggestions. Get an AX650, maybe an AX750. The PSU being the loudest in your rig is pure bull****. Those fans are amazingly quiet.
Don't compromise the SSD. Get an GTX 670! The GTX 680 performs almost the same! And your friend might even see the SSD as an better CPU.
 
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I think Seumas is completely right.

I myself have a single 670, which maxes out any game I play on it on 1 screen. I take just as much pride in that as I would if I had a 3960x and two 690s... Infact, I take more pride in it, because I know that I actually thought about which parts I needed and what would be best for me, rather than thinking, look, I have all this money lets just throw money at it for no reason. I even added random crap to my build like the keyboard and mouse, the fully modular cable kit for the psu and spent loads on extra fans that I didnt need, and still came out saving over a grand from my original budget.

We tend to think here, we build what is right for you. And are completely against people that go overkill and spend masses of money on something that doesnt effect performance the slightest amount.

If it was always your intention to just get the best possible parts for e-peen or to brag to your mates - then you didnt really need to make a forum post about it - you just had to open your wallet and place the order - if you post on here, we'll always tell people to save their money and get something right for them.

Also to address the 'we' bit from earlier - we are a family here, doesnt have to be I's and me's giving advice - we is perfectly fine here as we pretty much all think the same in terms of buying the parts that are right for you.
 
Oh and I went back to the Thermeltake wattage thing and entered 4 7970's just to see and it still didnt give me 1100w so I really don't know what you were doing?
 
I think they use quite a lot of amps when they first start up, do they not?
I just remember watching a Linus vid about his server, and him needing a PSU with separate rails for his hard drives, as they were taking up so much.
 
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12 storage drives, a blu-ray drive, a DVD drive, an LCD display panel, a fan controller and 3 7970s....

Are you just coming up with things to try and prove people here wrong?

Why wouldnt you just build a server for all your hard drives?
 
What is this system actually going to be used for?

File server and gaming rig all-in-one. Primarily for gaming though. The added storage is for a massive collection of games and my entire DVD collection.

12 storage drives, a blu-ray drive, a DVD drive, an LCD display panel, a fan controller and 3 7970s....

Are you just coming up with things to try and prove people here wrong?

Why wouldnt you just build a server for all your hard drives?


No, it's how i like to build my PC. It's called personal preference.

My current rig, might give you an idea of how much stuff i use. Considering the Cosmos II allows for even more expandability, i plan to take advantage of that.

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Like it or don't, its what I want out of my PC. So don't argue that what is best for you is also best for everyone else, that's just silly.
 

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I don't like the tubing of the watercooling mate, it's just to messy and too long.

Yeah, i kinda agree with you there. I built that rig almost 8 years ago, and it was my first water-cooling attempt, but my tastes have matured a little since then.

I plan to make this build a bit less messy. ;)
 
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