What waterblocks

[Mathadon]

I'm new to these forums, so hello =)

I recently upgraded to 939 socket processor so I cannot use the waterblock I used before. I attempted to make a new one but I don't have the resources anymore. So I've been googling for some time and silverprop caught my eye.

I was wondering wether any of you have any experience with these blocks? My budget is ~180€ and I'd like to get a CPU, chipset en VGA block with that. If there's any good alternatives, that's fine aswell. Would be nice if you guys knew a shop near Belgium too.

I've got an Eheim 1048, a Black ice Extreme 2 and a Black ice Alpha 2(which I probably won't use), 1/2" tubings.

Any help appreciated!

 

[deathwish]

depends on the pipe size useing

don't know much about the silverprop's

 

[llwyd]

depending on how much you will be overclocking the alphacool blocks make a great low budget purchase

 

[Mathadon]

I'll be overclocking but not that much.

 

[NoL]

Silverprop is basically the highest quality there is next to the Storm's and MP versions.

 

[PV5150]

Yeah baby, more quality Australian made gear hehe. Silverprop gear is v. good, although their site is dated.

 

[NickS]

Really? Aren't silverprops aluminum topped? Eww.

EDIT: Oh, looks like brass.

http://www.silverprop.com/cyclonefusionsl.aspx

I can't see how these are so good, performance wise. Maze4 design looks better than that, and I know the MP-1 would kick its butt...

EDIT2: Seems they stay away from pin-style blocks. I doubt they use jet-impingement either, which would be pretty useless without pins. Are they just quality, not performance?

Brass isn't the best top either. IIRC, it's just aluminum w/some bits of copper or something like that.. it can still corrode. Delrin IMO is nicer.

 

[FarFarAway]

What about a Swiftech Apogee? cheap and damn good performer whithin 1-2°C of the Storm and some say better

 

[NickS]

Apogee is better for CPU's with an IHS such as Core 2 Duo's, Core 2 Quad's, and Socket AM2 Athlon's (which have soldered on IHS').

The Storm is better for CPU's with exposed cores.

The AquaXtreme series blocks are equally as good for CPU's with exposed cores & CPU's with IHS'.

The Storm doesn't perform well with CPU's that have IHS' is because the jets focus the water pressure on a small square in the middle of the block, which works amazing for exposed-core CPU's but not for CPU's with IHS'.

 

[grazzhopper]

I felt Silverprop's time had passed.

I went for the Alphacool, very expensive in Australia., great build quality.

Best performance/$ in Australia would have to be the Swiftech range, a pin-array design. As pointed out the age of jet impingement designed blocks may be fading, in favor of Apogee style blocks. This is for two reasons I think-

The difference is that current cpus spread the load over 2 cores and so the "hot spot" is twice as large. The "Storm" block is "small area" ultra cooling @ a $cost.

Secondly the market is being flooded with cheap cr@p, I could have brought a water cooled Tai Chi (case and all) for less than the component cost my H2O gear.

Given the change in CPU design and the market the Apogee is a wise choice by Swiftech. I have not yet come across a negative comment about its performance.

 

[grazzhopper]

Europe= Koolance, Alphacool. you can order online.

 

[JN]

Its a shame that the Storm block is being discontinued very soon as Swiftech believe the Apogee to be much better. I've also heard of some sexy new Apogee blocks coming out too that improve the performance and looks of the existing one.

 

[grazzhopper]

Storm just so expensive for a small market place, that is being eroded by cheap junk.

Went to buy a aquarium pump head (actually for an aquarium) and was told by the owner the market is flooded with cheap Chinese junk, he had to have a look in supply cataloge to see if any quality was still available. He found 1, an Ehiem , $70+ . The Chinese imports are <$20. I think water cooling will go the same way. Already most good comp shops in AU have reduced their lines down to Zalman and Thermaltake.

 

[Philly_boy]

I think you'd so well with the following:

CPU-DD Maze 4 or the Swifty Apogee or the EK Wave

Chipset-DD Maze 4 Chipset or the EK NF4 Rev 1

GPU-MCW-60 if it's a G80 card. . .otherwise a Maze 4 Acetal or a EK GPU Wave