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Hi, so i am looking to get a new cpu cooler and looking at closed loop types. Likr the h100i and CM seidon 240m etc, so any recommendations would be appreciated =] thanks
 
Hi, so i am looking to get a new cpu cooler and looking at closed loop types. Likr the h100i and CM seidon 240m etc, so any recommendations would be appreciated =] thanks


Try reading the reviews first mate. save you wasting time here
 
The H100i is king from what I've seen although the Seidons are very good value for money, albeit the pumps can be louder (not sure about the 240 however). In terms of ones to stay away from, avoid the Thermaltake AIO coolers like the plague (although in my opinion that is how you should act with all Thermaltake products). The older enermax AIOs are also poor, the new ones seem to be very good.
 
I would say go with a H100i but like TTL said read the reviews first. I'd do some research on the Seidons I've been using one for nearly a year and they have a habit of periodically making an awful clicking/grinding noise after being under load. I have reported this to Cooler Master and got a reply to it, it is down to air bubbles building up in the pump it has no effect on performance just bloody annoying the fix for this is to switch off then wait a few seconds to boot back up.
 
Thanks wraithgaurd! Good thing to know! I wouldnt expect there to be any air in the loop anyway so they should get that sorted!

I didnt know zalman had a new one out, i will have to see what i can find about it. =]
 
Thanks wraithgaurd! Good thing to know! I wouldnt expect there to be any air in the loop anyway so they should get that sorted!

I didnt know zalman had a new one out, i will have to see what i can find about it. =]

There will always be a tiny amount of air in there otherwise there would be no room for "fluid" flow, not like a pneumatic system where you don't want air in the system.
 
There will always be a tiny amount of air in there otherwise there would be no room for "fluid" flow, not like a pneumatic system where you don't want air in the system.

Err what? I think you've got your wires crossed there fella. AIO's are vacuum sealed *closed* loops. There's no air...
 
Err what? I think you've got your wires crossed there fella. AIO's are vacuum sealed *closed* loops. There's no air...

The laws of Hydro dynamics says otherwise chap, if you vaccum all the air from a closed loop the liquid resistance would be to great for such a small pump to circulate, plus the heat generated would cause expansion which would result in catastrophic hose failure.

Quote from CM "When manufactured each unit contains set amounts of liquid coolant and a micro portion of gas between 1 - 0.8% to allow for heat expansion and fluid travel"

I used to think the same as you until I enquired because of the annoying noise my Seidon kept making, I had to do some research to be sure as I figured CM were just fobbing me off.
 
lol i didnt intend to create a debate :| haha. Anywho the air in the loop isnt the subject. Its just good to know any problems people have had with AIO setups :)
 
The laws of Hydro dynamics says otherwise chap, if you vaccum all the air from a closed loop the liquid resistance would be to great for such a small pump to circulate, plus the heat generated would cause expansion which would result in catastrophic hose failure.

Quote from CM "When manufactured each unit contains set amounts of liquid coolant and a micro portion of gas between 1 - 0.8% to allow for heat expansion and fluid travel"

I used to think the same as you until I enquired because of the annoying noise my Seidon kept making, I had to do some research to be sure as I figured CM were just fobbing me off.

I'd love to do some reading on this as it's perked my curiosity, can you pm me some links to stuff on this please dude?
 
lol i didnt intend to create a debate :| haha. Anywho the air in the loop isnt the subject. Its just good to know any problems people have had with AIO setups :)

Ha ha sorry chap I get obsessed from time to time with the inner workings of things.

I'd love to do some reading on this as it's perked my curiosity, can you pm me some links to stuff on this please dude?

SuB you could first check the papers here http://www.dantecdynamics.com/hydrodynamics-hydraulics Have fun it made my eyes spin when I first looked into this stuff. :lol:
 
Well, I can't speak for other AIO's, but the h100i in my (albeit limited) experience is good. Been running one for about a year or so, with no issues at all. Most of the time I don't even notice it.

That (ironically) is actually my only problem with it. I can actually hear the fans on my video card (and they are rated to a very low db). So now, I've gone and started buying the bits for a full on water cooling loop....
 
Haha nice!! Ill be running it on the slowest fan speed i can, i have just fitted a club3D 7950 and its near silent! And a be quiet psu so it should be a nice and quiet pc =D let me know if u want to sell your h100i =]
 
It will be on the cards....eventually.

The thing about custom loops is that you either need to have a large amount of money just sitting around, or you need to buy the bits in small chunks.

The full on build is going to be around $1k.... So I'm buying in small loads of $200 ish each few weeks.

I started with the blocks, because they are the parts most likely to go end of life...
 
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